Dark Anatomy 2,284 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'm sure this has already been stated but... Commercial success is a lot more important than people believe. Without it, Gaga's artistry becomes reduced and watered down in the sense that she is not able to provide those big scale music videos, incredible fashion, and crystal clear productions you all claim to love. If she doesn't have money then she can't do it. I mean she could pay for it out of pocket but eventually those funds will wear down, especially if her work isn't being consumed healthily. Labels dish out a lot of money to make an album, pay for music videos, promo etc.... and Gaga is expected to pay every single penny back. Only then does she get a small fraction of the sales. Touring is actually her number one source of income. Then it's followed by Ad Campaigns, TV, etc...but she doesn't do a lot of those. If you love Gaga and want to see her stay doing the things that made her love able then you want commercial success. If you don't then i'm sure you little guardians of the ARTPOP will brag about how you're better than the rest of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,637 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Strigoi said: I'm sure this has already been stated but... Commercial success is a lot more important than people believe. Without it, Gaga's artistry becomes reduced and watered down in the sense that she is not able to provide those big scale music videos, incredible fashion, and crystal clear productions you all claim to love. If she doesn't have money then she can't do it. I mean she could pay for it out of pocket but eventually those funds will wear down, especially if her work isn't being consumed healthily. Labels dish out a lot of money to make an album, pay for music videos, promo etc.... and Gaga is expected to pay every single penny back. Only then does she get a small fraction of the sales. Touring is actually her number one source of income. Then it's followed by Ad Campaigns, TV, etc...but she doesn't do a lot of those. If you love Gaga and want to see her stay doing the things that made her love able then you want commercial success. Which means they buy rather than download and see her shows when they can. Stand in the light, cast your shadow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 3 hours ago, Creyk said: More success = more music videos, interviews, Televized performances, epic award show moments, endorsments, commercials, you hear her on the radio. When she is not successful you don't get any of these things. Gaga managed all those things, other then videos, over the last two years without a Pop album. The fact is Gaga no longer needs to be a "Pop Girl" to have a successful career . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump 1,093 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 28 minutes ago, CurlyBae said: Our fanbase is insanely powerful TIHTY didn't chart because we knew the song like 1 year before it got released. I personally didn't buy it.And I don't know many people that did xD Bieber,Beyonce etc. also had flop singles.It doesn't mean anything (And TIHTY wasn't even a real single.No radio,not real promo,a song that we knew for a long time,it wasn't even in an album) But you said Gaga has the big fanbase so she can do things which the GP doesn't like and still make money. She released TIHTY which GP wasn't really interested in. Were is her money? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy232000 11,808 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 i live for bragging rights!!!! but i only use them when haters try to come at me and totally fail after her slayage in 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NooNe 25 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Next album will recover or Completely damages GaGa's career. (it is possible because there are many examples when talented artists could not sell music anymore and they faded). And i don't Understand chart haters. chart numbers are very Important for her partners.. nowadays numbers means everything. A lot of people don't understand that GaGa isn't alone, she has partners. if LG5 chart numbers are low they will not give her big budget for promotion, for music videos and for tour, so whole era will be cheap and i don't think gaga will be disappointed. that why hit songs and chart numbers are important in this Business . This situation is Completely normal. music Industry is huge Business and labels work hard so they want profit. if artists aren't profitable they will not waste money for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadOfAbyss 597 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 4 hours ago, fobbyassLM said: Cuz they are bottoms who have strong daddy issues and insecure about themselves so they need someone who is strong and admirable and most importantly someone who they can proudly brag about among their friends? Edit: Alright everyone ignore this sh*tty post because it went out of line and it's really offensive as some of you point it out Feel free to screenshot this and show it to me in the future as receipt to remind me of this tasteless and offensive thing I said And for people who maybe offense by this I'm sorry Peace Literally me LOL I am as vain as I allow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow 1,582 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Simple, she peaked too early and was hailed like The second coming of Jesus (undeservibly) and was called a legend and stuff, monsters got arrogant and now The reality is hitting... She isn't delivering on The supermegastar level. Ppl should just relax and not care! As long as music is good (better than artpoop -__-), she will have a good career as she's talented. Maybe not The next MJ or M, but so? They are a rarity, not a norm... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommy Monster 846 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I realized how much I was dissapointed with BTW after I had heard ARTPOP and from that point I stopped caring about success, cause I loved her new album no matter what and BTW could suck it tbh I realized that I forced myself to like it cause it was successful, but then... what´s the point of it??? I wanna enjoy good music and not brag about who and what is better we all have different tastes after all I even started listening to Katy, cause guess what, I love her music it´s a real life-changing experience, a milestone in life, when you stop hating on Katy tbh I guess I´ve grown up this and the previous year, peace and love to everyone Much adult, much wow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 30 minutes ago, giskardsb said: Gaga managed all those things, other then videos, over the last two years without a Pop album. The fact is Gaga no longer needs to be a "Pop Girl" to have a successful career . Exactly. Gaga doesn't need to be a pop diva, she's got so much more going for her. I hope she does what makes her happy. I think she will focus on her art, and let others focus on the commercial aspect. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deeman 189 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 59 minutes ago, Strigoi said: If you love Gaga and want to see her stay doing the things that made her love able then you want commercial success. If you don't then i'm sure you little guardians of the ARTPOP will brag about how you're better than the rest of us. It was spelled out to you in ARTPOP there is no commercial success without music. the bling is all mine too turn into music. all you hear. I'm buying you all out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
badboymonsterx 542 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 These threads where people continue to say they don't care if she flops or not.. umm hello? If she flops = less money = less gaga She's not going to waste all of her own money on supporting albums unless they do well now, especially since she's still relatively young and has a ways to go. She needs the support of fans and the GP to continue making good music and being relevant. It's natural to want her to have commercial success. If she continues to flop she'll make less music and we'll have longer gaps between albums. Music and the bling please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
REALITY 77,127 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 29 minutes ago, Strigoi said: I'm sure this has already been stated but... Commercial success is a lot more important than people believe. Without it, Gaga's artistry becomes reduced and watered down in the sense that she is not able to provide those big scale music videos, incredible fashion, and crystal clear productions you all claim to love. If she doesn't have money then she can't do it. I mean she could pay for it out of pocket but eventually those funds will wear down, especially if her work isn't being consumed healthily. Labels dish out a lot of money to make an album, pay for music videos, promo etc.... and Gaga is expected to pay every single penny back. Only then does she get a small fraction of the sales. Touring is actually her number one source of income. Then it's followed by Ad Campaigns, TV, etc...but she doesn't do a lot of those. If you love Gaga and want to see her stay doing the things that made her love able then you want commercial success. If you don't then i'm sure you little guardians of the ARTPOP will brag about how you're better than the rest of us. That's talking about the practicality of having huge commercial success. The O.P. discusses how fans and the general public are so judgmental towards Gaga when she doesn't have huge commercial success. While it's nice to have huge commercial success, what we need to do is support Gaga for making authentic music. It's completely fine and acceptable to want commercial success for Gaga, but the O.P. discusses how it isn't right to think of it was a competition between the artists. 𝔗𝔥𝔢 𝔪𝔲𝔰𝔦𝔠'𝔰 𝔤𝔬𝔫𝔫𝔞 𝔟𝔯𝔦𝔫𝔤 𝔪𝔢 𝔟𝔞𝔠𝔨 𝔣𝔯𝔬𝔪 𝔡𝔢𝔞𝔱𝔥 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Anatomy 2,284 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 1 minute ago, M Monstre said: That's talking about the practicality of having huge commercial success. The O.P. discusses how fans and the general public are so judgmental towards Gaga when she doesn't have huge commercial success. While it's nice to have huge commercial success, what we need to do is support Gaga for making authentic music. It's completely fine and acceptable to want commercial success for Gaga, but the O.P. discusses how it isn't right to think of it was a competition between the artists. Serves me right for just reading the title then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted January 4, 2016 Author Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Chump said: But you said Gaga has the big fanbase so she can do things which the GP doesn't like and still make money. She released TIHTY which GP wasn't really interested in. Were is her money? I already told you though "TIHTY didn't chart because we knew the song like 1 year before it got released. I personally didn't buy it.And I don't know many people that did xD" Fans didn't buy TIHTY.. It's not like we are 10.000 and we can't make a song chart Her fans are millions.A big part of them buys her lead singles (mostly) and her albums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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