Kermit 15,807 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just now, ajhuffman219 said: Oh really? I haven't seen any bias. Just an attempt at reasonable discussion between myself and others. But, continue to think that I'm racially biased. All you're doing is proving my earlier point that its the "cool" thing to do to call someone racist if they don't agree with a particular situation. I wasn't speaking of you in particular but okay. + I don't recall labeling anyone as a racist, I might have meant that some people aren't really insightful to others' struggles in life. I certainly hope this won't get replied to seeing I don't have the time as I am dealing with major conflicts right now. “For me, insanity is super sanity. The normal is psychotic. Normal means lack of imagination, lack of creativity.” ― Jean Dubuffet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Luiz said: take the breaking out please. it isnt breaking right now and i've a few times clicked on the worldnews section and thought it was a big new story only to find its just this old thread slightly annoying They arent Terrorist either lets stop this stupidity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 hour ago, SubRosa said: I don't understand why are you defending this. Tamir Rice had a toy gun in an open carry state and he was shot and denied medical help only because he was a black boy. This kind of thing is called "a protest" only when it's held by white right wing men. Change their race or religion and you have different names for them. Tamir Rice was aiming that gun at random citizens that walked by him. That's why 911 was called. Now, from there...the 911 dispatcher didn't relay the correct information and the police could have handled it differently. There aren't any innocent citizens being threatened in this situation. The visitors center/bird sanctuary is miles away from citizens and it was unoccupied. Are the birds in danger? These two situations have nothing to do with each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, Luiz said: are the egyptian protesters armed? i think the fact that they're armed and have said they are willing to use them if they are forced to be removed is what makes people see this as intimidation with a political goal which is by definition terrorism. When the egyptian military removed the legally democratic elected president, the muslim brotherhood protested and the military threatened them so they all grouped together with arms to protect themselves from an illegal dictator government. When the government breaks the law and refuse to give you your legal right, you have the right to occupy it and ask for your right or else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 minute ago, JbGaga said: They arent Terrorist either lets stop this stupidity i really dont care what you call them. you could easily say like i said above that they could be defined as terrorists. the guns are intimidating obviously "ter·ror·ism ˈterəˌrizəm/ noun the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims." but of course some will think its only if you intimidate the civilians. I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just now, Fays1 said: When the egyptian military removed the legally democratic elected president, the muslim brotherhood protested and the military threatened them so they all grouped together with arms to protect themselves from an illegal dictator government. When the government breaks the law and refuse to give you your legal right, you have the right to occupy it and ask for your right or else. oh the muslim brotherhood. always heard that they were considered terrorists. "as of 2015 is considered a terrorist organization by the governments of Bahrain,[7][8] Egypt, Russia, Syria, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates.[9][10][11][12] " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood i honestly dont care what you call them because i can see an argument for both I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Whispering said: Tamir Rice was aiming that gun at random citizens that walked by him. That's why 911 was called. Now, from there...the 911 dispatcher didn't relay the correct information and the police could have handled it differently. There aren't any innocent citizens being threatened in this situation. The visitors center/bird sanctuary is miles away from citizens and it was unoccupied. Are the birds in danger? These two situations have nothing to do with each other. Law enforcement is threatened if they try to remove them by any means, since they are "ready to kill and be killed". That is a threat of violence to pursue a political goal. Tamir wasn't pointing at cops and he was not given enough time to comply. And my comment was reply to this "They are allowed to have guns in that state and they threatened the government if the government used illegal force against them" It's not that hard to understand why I mentioned him. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 7 minutes ago, Luiz said: i really dont care what you call them. you could easily say like i said above that they could be defined as terrorists. the guns are intimidating obviously "ter·ror·ism ˈterəˌrizəm/ noun the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims." but of course some will think its only if you intimidate the civilians. They are not terrorists. They are protesters fighting for there rights JUST LIKE Black lives matter. Black lives matter have occupied private and federal grounds, threatened to kill cops, and caused violence. JUST LIKE Occpy Wall street when they occupied zuccotti park (Which was private and I think more Illegal since Federal land technically is owed by the people) So next time Black Lives Matter occupy a court house or mall im going to call them Terrorists and I better not get 1 word about the title right? No its wrong and so is this. Im not even saying I agree with the Militia in Oregon but I dont agree with how this thread is classifying them and its not right Moderators here arent doing something about it. Im very disappointed in this site today Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 kinda sucks that the actual story isnt reallly being paid any attention and everyone just wants to argue about if the reaction is racist or what to call them i wonder if the protesters actually have a good reason to protest i mean was there really a poaching operation going on? is the government overstepping? it must suck for them trying to do what they believe is right and the only thing people talk about is racism and ignoring their grievances entirely. they're getting attention but entirely the wrong attention I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, Luiz said: i really dont care what you call them. you could easily say like i said above that they could be defined as terrorists. the guns are intimidating obviously "ter·ror·ism ˈterəˌrizəm/ noun the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims." but of course some will think its only if you intimidate the civilians. Fort Hood shooting. It's called terrorism and it didn't involve civilians. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 minute ago, Luiz said: kinda sucks that the actual story isnt reallly being paid any attention and everyone just wants to argue about if the reaction is racist or what to call them i wonder if the protesters actually have a good reason to protest i mean was there really a poaching operation going on? is the government overstepping? it must suck for them trying to do what they believe is right and the only thing people talk about is racism and ignoring their grievances entirely. they're getting attention but entirely the wrong attention I agree with this. But I still think they dont deserve to be called terrorists Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, JbGaga said: They are not terrorists. They are protesters fighting for there rights JUST LIKE Black lives matter. Black lives matter have occupied private and federal grounds, threatened to kill cops, and caused violence. JUST LIKE Occpy Wall street when they occupied zuccotti park (Which was private and I think more Illegal since Federal land technically is owed by the people) So next time Black Lives Matter occupy a court house or mall im going to call them Terrorists and I better not get 1 word about the title right? No its wrong and so is this. Im not even saying I agree with the Militia in Oregon but I dont agree with how this thread is classifying them and its not right Moderators here arent doing something about it. Im very disappointed in this site today I've been disappointed by GGD a lot lately. It has become an almost hostile environment where only the "popular" opinion is allowed. I may, unfortunately, be taking a hiatus soon. 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just now, JbGaga said: They are not terrorists. They are protesters fighting for there rights JUST LIKE Black lives matter. Black lives matter have occupied private and federal grounds, threatened to kill cops, and caused violence. JUST LIKE Occpy Wall street when they occupied zuccotti park (Which was public and I think more Illegal since Federal land technically is owed by the people) So next time Black Lives Matter occupy a court house or mall im going to call them Terrorists and I better not get 1 word about the title right? No its wrong and so is this. Im not even saying I agree with the Militia in Oregon but I dont agree with how this thread is classifying them and its not right Moderators here arent doing something about it. Im very disappointed in this site today did BLM or occupy wallstreet have a bunch of armed protesters saying they would fight back if they are forced to leave? the firearms is where the intimidation obviously comes in and thats where i can see a case made that they are terrorists. now this whole convo seems pointless to me since this is really just being used to point to hypocrisy and avoid the actual issue. fox news loves to do that stuff like when they mention black on black crime not because they actually care but use it to call BLM hypocrites. i'm damn near done with this thread I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 29 minutes ago, DominicB said: Oooo so this is where all the racially biased GGD members hang out. Im a Arab Muslim that lives in the Middle East.. not anyone who defends white people must be a biased white. Also I dont think anyone talked about other races or degraded their experiences. 11 minutes ago, Luiz said: oh the muslim brotherhood. always heard that they were considered terrorists. "as of 2015 is considered a terrorist organization by the governments of Bahrain,[7][8] Egypt, Russia, Syria, Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates.[9][10][11][12] " https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_Brotherhood i honestly dont care what you call them because i can see an argument for both Muslim Brotherhood are not terrorists but they turned into one after what happened to them.. after they peacefully protested their legal right, the military regime issues a warning for them to go back to their houses or they will be killed and the government ended up killing 2000 civilians in only a couple of hours in the Rabaa Massacre. America and Human Rights supported the Muslim Brotherhood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luiz 4,253 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just now, ajhuffman219 said: I've been disappointed by GGD a lot lately. It has become an almost hostile environment where only the "popular" opinion is allowed. I may, unfortunately, be taking a hiatus soon. i took a hiatus too a while back for sort of the same reason. came back to the cult tho I disapprove of what you say, but will defend to the death your right to say it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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