Goosey 3,017 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, SubRosa said: I don't understand why are you defending this. Tamir Rice had a toy gun in an open carry state and he was shot and denied medical help only because he was a black boy. The dispatcher told the officers there was a "male black sitting on a swing and pointing a gun at people". The fact it was fake is irrelevant, it looks exactly the same and he was pulling it out of his waistband. Tamir Rice gun vs real gun: 7 minutes ago, SubRosa said: This kind of thing is called "a protest" only when it's held by white right wing men. That doesn't make it any less of a protest when done by other races. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, SubRosa said: I don't understand why are you defending this. Tamir Rice had a toy gun in an open carry state and he was shot and denied medical help only because he was a black boy. This kind of thing is called "a protest" only when it's held by white right wing men. Change their race or religion and you have different names for them. Yes and thats why we should call the media and government out for treating black people differently.. instead of doing that, you are hating on white people just because they are white and labeling them terrorists even though you recognize that what they are doing is legal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 6 minutes ago, ajhuffman219 said: I have yet to see adequate evidence this is an act of terrorism. What have these men done other than make some petty threats? Not a damn thing. When they start slaughtering federal officials, then I can start to be swayed. Until, call me when the liberal paranoia wears off again, waiting for someone to be killed to call things with their real name "liberal paranoia", I wouldn't laugh much, because paranoia which makes rightwing rednecks to put bacon on doors of mosques, so muslims would melt if they touch it or attacking and beating up Sikhs because they look like bin Laden, is what real paranoia is. Read up the definition of terrorism by FBI. And you're supporting it. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, Fays1 said: Yes and thats why we should call the media and government out for treating black people differently.. instead of doing that, you are hating on white people just because they are white and labeling them terrorists even though you recognize that what they are doing is legal! Occupying federal property with guns and threats of violence is not legal. And I'm not hating on white people, these are rightwing white supremacists and islamophobes. They had armed protests in front of mosques too. So nice for kids to see. Very friendly bearded uncles. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Just now, SubRosa said: Occupying federal property with guns and threats of violence is not legal. Occupying federal property is protesting and they did not threaten to kill anyone, they only said that they will defend themselves if the government use illegal force against them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 minute ago, SubRosa said: again, waiting for someone to be killed to call things with their real name "liberal paranoia", I wouldn't laugh much, because paranoia which makes rightwing rednecks to put bacon on doors of mosques so muslims would melt if they touch it or attacking and beating up Sikhs is what real paranoia is. Read up the definition of terrorism by FBI. And you're supporting it. These two situations are literally not even comparable. What the fuq are you smoking, honestly? The people who defaced the mosque set out to intentionally inflict harm. The people occupying the facility have threatened violence only IF they are themselves threatened with violence. There is a big difference. But, its impossible for you to see otherwise because you have a very narrow minded view of things. 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 3 minutes ago, ajhuffman219 said: These two situations are literally not even comparable. What the fuq are you smoking, honestly? The people who defaced the mosque set out to intentionally inflict harm. The people occupying the facility have threatened violence only IF they are themselves threatened with violence. There is a big difference. But, its impossible for you to see otherwise because you have a very narrow minded view of things. They threatened with violence IF anyone tries to remove them. That is still a threat of violence. "Ready to kill and be killed" one of them said. You are ignoring this too “These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers, when in reality these men had alternative motives, to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States,” http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oregon-sheriff-says-refuge-occupiers-trying-to-overthrow-government/ar-AAgjul1 Your insults mean nothing to me. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 4 minutes ago, SubRosa said: They threatened with violence IF anyone tries to remove them. That is still a threat of violence. "Ready to kill and be killed" one of them said. You are ignoring this too “These men came to Harney County claiming to be part of militia groups supporting local ranchers, when in reality these men had alternative motives, to attempt to overthrow the county and federal government in hopes to spark a movement across the United States,” http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oregon-sheriff-says-refuge-occupiers-trying-to-overthrow-government/ar-AAgjul1 Your insults mean nothing to me. I haven't insulted you And their threat of violence is completely justifiable. If I was in their position, I would feel the exact same way. You threaten with violence, I will reciprocate the same threat. 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Cant believe mods haven't changed title here.... Edit: @Zilla @Twisted Shadows @Bebe @Haroon Really?.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 I'm getting so embarrassed with liberalism lately. I'm truly thinking of completing cutting my ties with the ideology. It's so disturbing to think this is the future of society. People calling you a racist, a bigot, a -phobic, and now a terrorist because you do not agree with them. I support these ranchers and I hope they get their way. Sorry I'm not sorry. 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, SubRosa said: They threatened with violence IF anyone tries to remove them. That is still a threat of violence. "Ready to kill and be killed" one of them said. If black people occupied a governmental area and started asking for their rights to not be killed by cops wouldnt you support that? these people are also asking for their rights so why are you calling them terrorists? this is just white racist hate that liberal socialists are using to put forward their agenda. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainingOnMe 7,280 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 On 1/3/2016 at 10:46 AM, Morphine Prince said: OH WAIT, I'm not white. I'd probably get shot down by police and told to "go back to my country" despite me being American. I agree with your post but I've seen you say you're Italian / Hispanic and that's 100% European... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 1 minute ago, ajhuffman219 said: I'm getting so embarrassed with liberalism lately. I'm truly thinking of completing cutting my ties with the ideology. It's so disturbing to think this is the future of society. People calling you a racist, a bigot, a -phobic, and now a terrorist because you do not agree with them. I support these ranchers and I hope they get their way. Sorry I'm not sorry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, ajhuffman219 said: I haven't insulted you And their threat of violence is completely justifiable. If I was in their position, I would feel the exact same way. You threaten with violence, I will reciprocate the same threat. They are the only ones threatening with violence. If/when law enforcement attempts to physically remove them (and these idiots said they're ready to die) so these "militiamen" respond with fire - will you call it terrorism or justified killing? It's just "defense of freedom fighters" right? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 2 minutes ago, SubRosa said: They are the only ones threatening with violence. If/when law enforcement attempts to physically remove them (and these idiots said they're ready to die) so these "militiamen" respond with fire - will you call it terrorism or justified killing? It's just "defense of freedom fighters" right? If the law enforcement used weapons, then yes, I would still 100% support the occupiers' actions if they fired back. 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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