VOLANTIS 16,396 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 13 hours ago, JbGaga said: That Gif is BTW Era tho... 10 points for you for figuring that out Sherlock. The purpose for that gif is Expression. I don't think I need to tell anyone on GGD what Poker Face Music Video looks like. I'll lift you 3 inches off the ground and drag you to a meter and a half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JbGaga 2,261 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, VOLANTIS said: 10 points for you for figuring that out Sherlock. The purpose for that gif is Expression. I don't think I need to tell anyone on GGD what Poker Face Music Video looks like. Fame Era gif Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Versace 7,959 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 10 hours ago, ****Eliza said: So are you telling me that R&B is the reason we got TF, TFM, BTW & AP? Nice try but no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 15,829 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 10 minutes ago, Versace said: Nice try but no on the technical scale yes it is since she made a dance album that was different from the R&B american pop scene at the time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 Edit: Nvm, not satisfied with this. TF is my fav era so any post I make about it must be glimmering with glorious truth and I failed this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic 11,922 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 I'm curious, what is your definition of an 'artistic album'? Many artists use duplicitous meanings and metaphors in their work so whilst Poker Face is an incredibly well written track and is definitely artistic, I wouldn't say it was anymore artistic in that sense than others? Visually, I would say definitely artistic but these are visuals which are easier to be artistic. I don't disagree with you, I'm just curious as to what you feel makes The Fame different from the rest artistically? The concept itself is brilliant but again this is just a concept. Do you mean artistic as in cleverly written and produced? Because I have to agree by this standard it would be. The hardest thing in this world is to live in it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manul 7,377 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 4 hours ago, Versace said: Nice try but no Red & Blue came first of all so it is the original iconic smash. Red & Blue > TF, TFM, BTW, AP #Justice4R&B it wasn't laaaahv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,115 Posted January 4, 2016 Share Posted January 4, 2016 The music itself (specifically, the melodies and chord progressions) is as simplistic as it gets, but yes, the concepts and the way things tie together are very interesting. I don't believe it holds a candle to Born This Way, however, in any respect. Having said that, every Gaga album so far has been exceedingly artistic, and with a single, unifying theme to harness to music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Tulip 12,428 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 People who call The Fame "generic" or "basic" are teenagers that had to google who Jeff Koons was when Gaga announced him as an art collaborator on ARTPOP and then all of a sudden they feel like little Michelangelos. The Fame is her most genius, cohesive and intelligent body of work. The album has some of her best lyrics, melodies, production and visuals. Everything was hands on, consistent and wasn't overshadowed with pettiness. All that mattered during that era was the MUSIC. I hope we get a vibe like that for the next album. Just focus on the music and nothing else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarstruckIllusion 52,473 Posted January 5, 2016 Author Share Posted January 5, 2016 10 minutes ago, Alien Tulip said: People who call The Fame "generic" or "basic" are teenagers that had to google who Jeff Koons was when Gaga announced him as an art collaborator on ARTPOP and then all of a sudden they feel like little Michelangelos. The Fame is her most genius, cohesive and intelligent body of work. The album has some of her best lyrics, melodies, production and visuals. Everything was hands on, consistent and wasn't overshadowed with pettiness. All that mattered during that era was the MUSIC. I hope we get a vibe like that for the next album. Just focus on the music and nothing else. LITERALLY ME LMFAO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopThatArt 2,193 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 On January 3, 2016 at 3:27 AM, ROARyals said: When some say they want The Fame Gaga back, some of y'all are quick to reply, "oh that's generic af, Gaga is too evolved and artistic for that", and it needs to stop. Let's not act like Poker Face doesn't have a secret double meaning only monsters know of, and the absolute brilliant "cherry pie" lyric meaning from Paparazzi doesn't exist. The Fame's a conceptual album based on not wanting to be famous, but everyone wanting to know who you are. Plus the music videos are visually stunning and amazing-and I haven't even touched The Fame Mons†er yet. Real art speaks for itself, and the only artistic difference between The Fame and ARTPOP is the word "art" being throw around way more in the latter-don't be fooled. I'm not bashing my fav album ARTPOP, but almost every damn interview of that era had Gaga explaining in detail what it meant and people were still confused, so… also it's like why does this matter so badly? Do you know what was said from the pre-ARTPOP era? "Gaga can't go back the The Fame bc it's too generic and non loving yourself and ****." And do you know what we'll see during the pre-LG6 era? "The Fame Gaga is too generic and not enough *LG5 concept*, Gaga's a way more capable artist." Like... this is just so irrelevant and predictable. don't be so stupid to think Gaga can't serve generic bops AND art at the same time-you're severely underestimating Gaga's ability as a performer-for what reason? leave it in 2015. It's not that it isn't artistic, it's just that it's boring. It's mainstream pop Gaga did purposely to infiltrate pop culture so people would pay attention to her work. She needed to break into pop if she wanted to be heard, so The Fame's sound serves as her door into the mainstream. She talked about this before, how she's an artist who had to go pop to be heard. Paparazzi is when the true Gaga surfaced, the Gaga that's the artist. Then with The Fame Monster, she was more able to explore that artistry now that "she made it" with typical pop music, and then she went full blown artist in the era and into Born This Way. Go see A Star is Born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacify Him 9,073 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 lol its her debut that sparked a new era which the popstars copied her for it I’m getting on your nerves Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopThatArt 2,193 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 Lady Gaga has a lot to say, she has a message and making mainstream pop music like The Fame was her way to break into pop culture and deliver her message and art. That pop girl image she shed after The Fame was a ruse to get people's attention. Go see A Star is Born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackTheTripper 866 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 i actually think this song and performance are more ART POP than anything from the ARTPOP album https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-8v3RVeELQw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XoXoJoanneGaga 629 Posted January 5, 2016 Share Posted January 5, 2016 4 hours ago, PopThatArt said: Lady Gaga has a lot to say, she has a message and making mainstream pop music like The Fame was her way to break into pop culture and deliver her message and art. That pop girl image she shed after The Fame was a ruse to get people's attention. Sure, but the point a lot of people are making is that she actually had more to say and a more interesting message during that era than she's had for much of her career since then. What's been the message behind her work in the last few years? What's been the artistic intention and execution behind her eras? It certainly hasn't gotten more complex or "more artistic" (mind you I'm well aware that that's largely due to her management issues and all that, but the point still stands). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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