Is Gaga the most talented modern artist?

[Quark 7,098]

2 minutes ago, SecretWeapon said:

Oh I dont believe Taylor Swift is the most talented artist out there, but you brought up quality and quality is measured via critical reception and awards. Taylor has more awards and higher scores, so by your logic, she is the better artist lol

Except quality is not measured up by anything other than your opinion.

[Mast 980]

2 hours ago, Runway said:

Then why did she receive the Songwriting Icon Award and not Katy Perry, Beyonce, Rihanna, Kesha, Taylor, Adele or any other? G0dga writes her songs on her own but is always generous with her songwriting credits

Golden Globes opinion > your opinion. 

She didn't. She received the Contemporary Icon Award. It's not a songwriting award. It's an award given to songwriters who have attained an iconic status in pop culture, which Gaga has. Again, it's not an award for exceptional songwriting, but an award for icon status in pop culture. It's also the first year the award has ever been given, so you will be seeing all those other artists receiving it in the future. Anyhow, Taylor Swift, John Legend, Alicia Keys, Jason Mraz, and Drake all were recognized by the Songwriters Hall of Fame years before Gaga was.

Also, the Golden Globes has committed atrocious mistakes with its nominations and winners before, so you can kindly leave. Lady Gaga did fine in AHS, but it hardly deserves a nomination, especially considering the quality in the performances of her competitors. Again, Gaga was bound to get the nomination from the get go just because she was the lead actress in the show. That's a fact, not my opinion. Not to mention that the majority of AHS watchers think the nomination should have gone to Bates, Paulson, or Peters, all of whom have done miles better than Gaga. The only reason they didn't get the nomination was because they didn't get enough screentime to be qualified. 

[Alcina Dimitrescu 1,156]

Just now, Enigma said:

Except quality is not measured up by anything other than your opinion.

Great. Then the awards YOU brought up matter **** since you didnt give them to her lmao

[Quark 7,098]

Just now, SecretWeapon said:

Great. Then the awards YOU brought up matter **** since you didnt give them to her lmao

But I only brought them up because you starting bringing these kind of thing up lol. You are saying that Grimes is more talented than Gaga because she has higher metacritic, and I pointed out to you that Gaga also has plenty of what you call "backing".

[Alcina Dimitrescu 1,156]

2 minutes ago, Enigma said:

But I only brought them up because you starting bringing these kind of thing up lol. You are saying that Grimes is more talented than Gaga because she has higher metacritic, and I pointed out to you that Gaga also has plenty of what you call "backing".

And i brought that up because you brought up quality because versatility didnt count, even though the op says

She can sing, song-write, dance, act, produce, direct, play instruments, and she is very creative

I wont arse further tho. I already have to deal with enough Ralph Wiggums in League of Legends

[Mast 980]

36 minutes ago, Enigma said:

I said/implied that Gaga is MORE versatile, not that Beyonce is not.

Again, versatility means nothing. It's easy to be okay at a lot of things. It's much harder to excel at a few.

[Sudarshana 581]

Wow, who knew that a thread called "Is Gaga the most talented modern artist?" would become one of the most educational on GGD  

Learned a lot about Gaga and other great artists.

I personally prefer to evaluate made songs/videos rather than artists, especially in pop music, since so many creative people participate in the making.

The concept of someone being the most talented sounds boring to me.

[Benji 20,113]

1 minute ago, Mast said:

Again, versatility means nothing. It's easy to be okay at a lot of things. It's much harder to excel at a few.

There's no point being a jack of all trades but a master of none!

[Quark 7,098]

2 minutes ago, Mast said:

Again, versatility means nothing. It's easy to be okay at a lot of things. It's much harder to excel at a few.

Versatility means a lot though. That means you have many talents (that is not easy lol). Plus Gaga is much more than ok in many areas.

 

10 minutes ago, SecretWeapon said:

And i brought that up because you brought up quality because versatility didnt count, even though the op says

She can sing, song-write, dance, act, produce, direct, play instruments, and she is very creative

I wont arse further tho. I already have to deal with enough Ralph Wiggums in League of Legends

What does my OP have to do with metacritic though?

[Quark 7,098]

3 minutes ago, Benji said:

There's no point being a jack of all trades but a master of none!

Einstein wasn't great in any area of physics. But he knew more overall than anyone else. This lead to his great ideas or relativity. His overall sense of things made him the only one capable of discovering this one great idea.

[Mast 980]

4 minutes ago, Enigma said:

Versatility means a lot though. That means you have many talents (that is not easy lol). Plus Gaga is much more than ok in many areas.

 

What does my OP have to do with metacritic though?

Ugh, you're not getting it. Being okay at a thing doesn't make it a talent. Gaga has 0 dancing talent, for example. She has questionable talent at acting. We've only ever seen her play one role, which is a powerful fashion-minded female with a somewhat sad backstory, and that's not a stretch of a character her for her since that is who she is. Her true talent lies in singing and songwriting, but she has a lot of of growth to do in those areas, where other artists are and have been ahead of her for years.

 

By your logic, I'm a talented dancer because I've been in dance performances before.

By your logic, I'm a talented actor because I've been in plays and minor films. 

By your logic, I'm a talented musician because I know my scales and music theory, and can decently play guitar, but I'm hardly amazing at it. 

 

Your logic doesn't make sense. Sorry.

[Quark 7,098]

Just now, Mast said:

Ugh, you're not getting it. Being okay at a thing doesn't make it a talent. Gaga has 0 dancing talent, for example. She has questionable talent at acting. We've only ever seen her play one role, which is a powerful fashion-minded female with a somewhat sad backstory, and that's not a stretch of a character her for her since that is who she is. Her true talent lies in singing and songwriting, but she has a lot of of growth to do in those areas, where other artists are and have been ahead of her for years.

Gaga was not a dancer, but she actually became good at it (that is more than 0). The questionable acting talent lead her to a Golden Globe nomination. And she does have a lot of growth to do, but she keeps improving all the time so I am not worried.

[Benji 20,113]

3 minutes ago, Enigma said:

Einstein wasn't great in any area of physics. But he knew more overall than anyone else. This lead to his great ideas or relativity. His overall sense of things made him the only one capable of discovering this one great idea.

[Mast 980]

Just now, Enigma said:

Gaga was not a dancer, but she actually became good at it (that is more than 0). The questionable acting talent lead her to a Golden Globe nomination. And she does have a lot of growth to do, but she keeps improving all the time so I am not worried.

Being able to follow choreography =/= being a talented dancer. There's so much more behind dancing. Dance in an art. There is form, theory, and meaning behind it, which Gaga has never studied.

I've already given my two cents on her Golden Globe nomination and how she was guaranteed one before the show even aired. She was the only female in the cast who was eligible for it, and AHS is guaranteed an nomination every year. Not to mention she would be good for ratings since there would be a crossover audience. 

[Mast 980]

7 minutes ago, Enigma said:

Einstein wasn't great in any area of physics. But he knew more overall than anyone else. This lead to his great ideas or relativity. His overall sense of things made him the only one capable of discovering this one great idea.

What? Lmfao, Einstein was an amazing physicist. That was his profession. His first paper was on Thermodynamic fluctuations and statistical physics. That's a really ****ing complicated concept. He was a master at what he did. He explained atomic phenomena through statistics. That requires a lot of knowledge.Same goes for his theories of relativity, photons, energy quanta, atomic vibrations, particle waves, quantum theory, etc.