SlaeUrAnus 15,958 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I agree. I love Born This Way, but she got so pretentious at the end and carried it over to ARTPOP. I always assumed because she got too big and she wanted everyone to view her as an "artistic Goddess". In my messy era. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody 64,631 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 People change the things they say, so does Gaga and somethings her words might seem pretentious. I don't know I can't judge her in that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sizzily 14,543 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I might be watching it wrong, but this comes to mind. Tears in the rain Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,950 Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 6 minutes ago, Haroon said: I don't think it's a common occurrence or overwhelming I didn't really see it much or at all during BTW, it was parts of ARTPOP for me I don't think she's a pretensions individual, I just think she sometimes runs with her thoughts super far and her chosen wording skews things I mean everyone can be a bit pretensions with things they care about I agree. I really don't think her intentions are ever to come across as standoffish or arrogant. It's just once she gets going on a topic she's passionate about, things can get a little messy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clip 5,100 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Just now, Creyk said: Taylor, Adele, Katy, Rihanna, basically her peers? I mean, everyone has its moments when they feel really confident. It's natural Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stiletto Ninja 29 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Anyone who takes a certain amount of pride in their work can be viewed as "pretentious" to a certain degree. Its not necessarily a bad thing. A lot of pretentious people are just really passionate about what they do. It only starts to become a terrible thing when you think you've transcended the need to improve upon your existing skills and body of work. Gaga has definitely been overbearing with her work and message at times, but I don't think she's ever gotten that bad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,950 Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 OT: has it helped or hurt her career? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobster 14,604 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Slay me, BTW, most pretentious album ever ARTPOP who? But I'm only a man and I do what I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edonis 28,950 Posted December 16, 2015 Author Share Posted December 16, 2015 1 minute ago, VampireMobster said: Slay me, BTW, most pretentious album ever ARTPOP who? SCREAMING Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alien Tulip 12,428 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 It irks me that she thinks less of people who aren't talented or lip sync. I get the idea of calling them out but the way she makes her point just makes her look egotistical rather than actually caring. People are going to like what they are going to like. There are people that lip sync and have minimal talent but their music is enjoyable to my ears. I've also come across people who are multi talented but their lyrics are horrendous and overall their music is mediocre. A lot of artists I enjoy are very talented like Gaga, PJ Harvey, Mariah Carey, Courtney Love, Nirvana, etc but I don't see them as anymore important than Britney Spears who I'm a huge fan of too because her music is easy to my ears and has I think her sweetheart of a personality enhances my adoration towards her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wahkeenasitka 1,995 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 yes she was pretentious during the BTW era, especially 2012. and a bit of ARTPOP too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bury Me 477 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Of course she's pretentious. But she doesn't realize it, so it's strangely cute. I just hoped she would stop being like that after ARTPOP's failure but then I heard what she said at the last Billboard Music Awards, and I cringed... It's her personality. So for me : As long as she release good music in the near future, I'm OK with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 Pretentiousness is essential as an artist. You have to pretend something first in order to become it. As an artist myself I can relate to it very well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopThatArt 2,193 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 I find Gaga for some reason coming off as very arrogant these days and shallow, borderline pretentious. Go see A Star is Born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopThatArt 2,193 Posted December 16, 2015 Share Posted December 16, 2015 51 minutes ago, Andy McQueen said: Pretentiousness is essential as an artist. You have to pretend something first in order to become it. As an artist myself I can relate to it very well. No you do not. There are great artists who have done nothing but been themselves and no one else. Go see A Star is Born Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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