Does Putin want a major war ? What is Putin's agenda ?

[AlphaMonster 1,806]

1 minute ago, X said:

well, we used to have an aggressive president like that and he's in position for 21 years, until a people power revolution started and dethroned him. i really cant say whether he's good for the country or not but he got a pretty bad aftertaste here until his death due to his legacy of militarization,countless corruptions, crimes and killings as well as the media censorship. 

sorry if this is kinda ot. im not really a political guy  

I searched and read briefly about People Power Revolution just now.
It seems similar to Gezi Protests in terms of why people did it except there was no army in Gezi Protests, and Erdogan does not have virtue to resign; but anyways, he would still win the elections even if he resigned at the time. Undereducated people love him to death. 

[AlphaMonster 1,806]

5 minutes ago, Simon said:

you won't have good weather anymore tho

True. I think we could have left Ceşme, Bodrum and Antalya in their places as 3 separate islands for vacations 

Or sell Antalya to some other country with all resorts in it; 90% of vacationers of Antalya were russian tourists, no more russian tourists for us anyways.

[AlphaMonster 1,806]

10 minutes ago, Luiz said:

fighting ISIS and defeating them will make everyone have to lift sanctions on russia and their economy can improve. 

That's a good point, I did not think of it before... It kinda weakens my theory that only reason Russia started paying attention to strong presence in middle east is gaining more global power. I still think Putin wants to have more presence in Middle East to have global power but reason you gave is very logical too. 

But since Russia's verbally attacking Turkey as ISIS supporters since the downing of the jet, american influenced western media took a turn to say Russia focuses its operations on Syrian Rebels to support Assad rather than ISIS as much as they can. 
So I don't know how successful this "plan" will be. 

[loribb 338]

No, United States Of America want war, make Russians look as Antichrists and then come as saviours to bring back democracy and human rights, but actually to expand their economic power undercover 

[User 352]

Just wow at the extreme one-sided view of things.

Example: Alone your estimates for Georgia are totally wrong. Oh what a wonder South Ossetia separated itself in 1991 from Georgio, i think it was Putin from the future who did this also. Even the EU has admitted in their report what Saakashvili has done with civilians and Russian peacekeepers. Maybe you should first understand the whole post-soviet  union space. The situation in Ukraine is much more complicated and not to talk about middle east.

But you know,i feel sorry for the people in each generation in every country because they think that they are the generation whih is enlightened.

 

[RAMROD 116,996]

He is like Russian version of George Walker Bush and a little more.

He might or might not wanted a major scale of war.

He'll just annihilate everyone blocking his way or hurting his comrades.

I think he have his own agenda much like every other politicians.

So, la la la la, don't phunk with his heart.

[RAMROD 116,996]

18 minutes ago, loribeverlygirl said:

No, United States Of America want war, make Russians look as Antichrists and then come as saviours to bring back democracy and human rights, but actually to expand their economic power undercover 

 

There'd always be somebody that shoot down any dream
There'll always be haters, that's the way it is
Hater brothas marry hater bitches and have hater kids.

 

[AlphaMonster 1,806]

59 minutes ago, User said:

Just wow at the extreme one-sided view of things.

But you know,i feel sorry for the people in each generation in every country because they think that they are the generation whih is enlightened.

I said if you know what I don't know, share; I can add among informations. I did not claim to know or share everything.
What I can say is that informations I shared are facts that are presented in objective plain language.
I explicitly noted "opinion" or "subjective"  where I shared my opinions to avoid this kind of blames.  It is so funny that you still claimed that I pretend to know everything.

59 minutes ago, User said:

Example: Alone your estimates for Georgia are totally wrong. Oh what a wonder South Ossetia separated itself in 1991 from Georgio, i think it was Putin from the future who did this also. Even the EU has admitted in their report what Saakashvili has done with civilians and Russian peacekeepers. Maybe you should first understand the whole post-soviet  union space. The situation in Ukraine is much more complicated and not to talk about middle east.

I did not know what russian claims were, I concisely shared international view.
Your presenting this as fact is biased and one-sided. 

In the same vein, since 1960s, UN was expressing  concerns over well-being of turkish cypriots while greek nationalism was rising (just like EU's adressing their concerns). As one of the peacekeepers of Cyprus, Turkey took action when far right-week greek junta took control of Cyprus, and did "Cyprus Peace Operation" in 1974.
Turkey invaded a part of Cyprus, and established Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus which is internationally not recognized just like South Ossetia. Yet, as a turk, I still know that international conjecture considers it as an Invasion.