Father of CA mass shooter "In two years, Israel won't even exist."

[AlphaMonster 1,806]

11 minutes ago, Simon said:

It's not because Palestine. ( I mean the whole arab world looks away what happens in Syria or Yemen). It's because they simply hate Jews.  The hate comes mainly because of stereotypes that Jews rule the world. And I think in the Quran, not sure though, stands that the final fight is between Jews and Muslims.

Forget Quran, Quran says lots of things; it depends on people about how it will be perceived; I never saw an anti-semitist islamic extremist quoting that from Quran. 

It is true that "jews rule and manipulate the world" stereotype is an argument for commonplace anti-semitism; but I don't see it enough for all these islamic extremists to hate Jews more than everything else. I think there are different factors involved that has been adding up until now that resulted in this huge irrational hate towards jews.

It is still ridiculous that islamic extremists hate jews more than everything else where there are better options for them to hate from perspective such as gay. 
At this point, I feel like it became a dogma with strong bandwagon effect that they don't even question or think about reasoning behind why they were thought to hate jews in the first place 

[Qualle1 1,385]

Disgusting...

[Luiz 4,253]

6 hours ago, MJHolland said:

Did we read the same article? It seems like his father was trying to clam him down and tell him he didn't have to cause violence to see justice?

yeah the way i read it the father is saying do not try to fight a war and achieve your goals through politics. it sucks that they hate israel but the dad didnt want his son to go this far  

[RAMROD 117,039]

So that's the kind of values he taught his kids?

Tisk tisk tisk. Shame on him.

[MJHolland 12,725]

10 hours ago, Simon said:

It's not because Palestine. ( I mean the whole arab world looks away what happens in Syria or Yemen). It's because they simply hate Jews.  The hate comes mainly because of stereotypes that Jews rule the world. And I think in the Quran, not sure though, stands that the final fight is between Jews and Muslims.

 

Or the entire world agreed after WWII that we would kick the Palestinians out of their homes so that the jews could have their historical home back that they hadn't had for tens of thousands of years.... Awkward.

[Melech 9,900]

9 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Or the entire world agreed after WWII that we would kick the Palestinians out of their homes so that the jews could have their historical home back that they hadn't had for tens of thousands of years.... Awkward.

It weren't ten thousand years but whatevs. Anti-semitism already played a huge role in the Islamic world before Israel. 

 

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14 minutes ago, Simon said:

It weren't ten thousand years but whatevs. Anti-semitism already played a huge role in the Islamic world before Israel. 

 

Maybe it wouldn't be so prevalent and we wouldn't have people trying to take down Israel if Israel just stopped lobbing rockets and bombs onto civilian beaches and hospitals is Gaza. Have a good one.

[lego 44,165]

Israeli media is so obnoxious, trying to spin every tragedy to be about them. Same happened after Paris attacks, there was a link that some Jewish people owned Bataclan, but none of these attacks have anything to do with Israel or Jews. People from all faiths were killed or injured. 

 

13 hours ago, MJHolland said:

Did we read the same article? It seems like his father was trying to clam him down and tell him he didn't have to cause violence to see justice?

Is this the first time we agree?

90% of ggd only reads the title and bolded parts before commenting. Yeah it's no surprise they hate Israel and yes it is because of Palestine, I don't know how can anyone deny it? These people watch news from Palestine every single day. 

 

But the more important parts is this

"What’s the point of fighting? We already did that and we lost. You can’t beat Israel with armies but with politics."

He didn't teach him to be a terrorist.  

[Melech 9,900]

2 minutes ago, lego said:

Israeli media is so obnoxious, trying to spin every tragedy to be about them. Same happened after Paris attacks, there was a link that some Jewish people owned Bataclan, but none of these attacks have anything to do with Israel or Jews. People from all faiths were killed or injured. 

 

Is this the first time we agree?

90% of ggd only reads the title and bolded parts before commenting. Yeah it's no surprise they hate Israel and yes it is because of Palestine, I don't know how can anyone deny it? These people watch news from Palestine every single day. 

 

But the more important parts is this

"What’s the point of fighting? We already did that and we lost. You can’t beat Israel with armies but with politics."

He didn't teach him to be a terrorist.  

Should the West hate Muslim countries because of what Muslims doing? Obviously not. That's a double standard. 

And to your first part. Well, some people may draw lines after every other major Islamic attack in Europe, Jews were targeted. Jewish museum in Brussels, Kosher supermarket in Paris and Bar Mitzvah in Copenhagen.

[Melech 9,900]

21 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

Maybe it wouldn't be so prevalent and we wouldn't have people trying to take down Israel if Israel just stopped lobbing rockets and bombs onto civilian beaches and hospitals is Gaza. Have a good one.

For this, Palestinians should stop stabbing and attacking Jews. 

[lego 44,165]

There was also one "Messianic Jew", of Greek origin, who was killed in this attack.

 

Messianic Jews are actually "undercover" Christians who are trying to convert Muslims and Jews, depends who they talk to, they can say they are "Messianic Muslims". The whole point is to "accept the Christ/Messiah".  

[lego 44,165]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

Should the West hate Muslim countries because of what Muslims doing? Obviously not. That's a double standard. 

And to your first part. Well, some people may draw lines after every other major Islamic attack in Europe, Jews were targeted. Jewish museum in Brussels, Kosher supermarket in Paris and Bar Mitzvah in Copenhagen.

Well many Westerners do hate Muslims for what is happening in muslim countries. I didn't say they should, I said they do.

Jews were not always specifically targeted, in these two attacks there was nothing about kosher shops or jewish schools. The fact that he hated Israel is irrelevant to this attack and 14 people who died.

[Melech 9,900]

3 minutes ago, lego said:

Well many Westerners do hate Muslims for what is happening in muslim countries. I didn't say they should, I said they do.

Jews were not always specifically targeted, in these two attacks there was nothing about kosher shops or jewish schools. The fact that he hated Israel is irrelevant to this attack and 14 people who died.

Well of course this doesn't have anything to do with the motives of that attack. Though you can't deny that there is also a specific focus on jewish institutions in many attacks. Just proves me though how vile the thoughts of so many people are and that makes it often really difficult to think rational 

[MJHolland 12,725]

16 minutes ago, Simon said:

For this, Palestinians should stop stabbing and attacking Jews. 

Palestinians were evicted from their homes because the Jewish community decided it wanted to go back to its homeland thousands of years later. But k.

[Melech 9,900]

Just now, MJHolland said:

Palestinians were evicted from their homes because the Jewish community decided it wanted to go back to its homeland thousands of years later. But k.

Nobody is denying what happened to Palestinians. Jewish needed a home land. They were refugees after all. Also you ereasing that there were also Palestinan Jews.   

Funny though that you are so attacking Israel when you live in the USA where european people never actually belonged in.