Bobby talks new music in Billboard Interview

[AJH219 4,448]

17 hours ago, Ronlop said:

I can't prove anything and you can't too. So everything we're basically saying here is 'going by our intuition'. Let's put it right there.

I didn't hear about Gaga in a mainstream way ever since Bad Romance or the meat dress. How do I know? Simply because you can hear it around you, on the radio, on the news. The Oscars performance didn't explode as much as the majority of GGD thinks (or wants to believe) it did.

You mentioned the C2C Tour but that has nothing to do with the fact that the mainstream's perspective on her hasn't changed. I'm not talking about hundred thousands, I'm talking about millions of people. 

Adele's comeback and 25 was received by the public in a very mainstream way. Beyonce's surprise album release was basically everywhere too. Katy Perry had several radio smash hits recently. Gaga has been gone and it's very clear. 

I honestly don't get how you guys want to believe it was the most productive year when Bobby and Gaga both said that it was more of 'a year off' and a year of 'reflecting'. It was definitely an important year though, I won't argue on that.

 

 

The Oscars performance didn't blow up? How freaking out of touch are you?? Are you kidding me?? It was all anyone in EVERY media platform talked about for days after the show. Cheek to Cheek Tour? Acclaimed by the media as well. Lady Gaga HAS NOT been "out of the mainstream" like you ignorantly try to claim. 2015 WAS a productive year. The only people who believe it was not are people who living in a cave still pleasuring themselves with copies of The Fame 

[Ronlop 6,882]

20 minutes ago, ajhuffman219 said:

The Oscars performance didn't blow up? How freaking out of touch are you?? Are you kidding me?? It was all anyone in EVERY media platform talked about for days after the show. Cheek to Cheek Tour? Acclaimed by the media as well. Lady Gaga HAS NOT been "out of the mainstream" like you ignorantly try to claim. 2015 WAS a productive year. The only people who believe it was not are people who living in a cave still pleasuring themselves with copies of The Fame 

Do your parents, friends and people around you know about the Oscars performance as much as they know about the meat dress or 'Rah rah ah-ah-ah! Ro mah ro-mah-mah'?

Who said anything about the Cheek To Cheek era not being critically acclaimed? Alot of albums that aren't even silver certified are critically acclaimed.

And your last comment is incorrect because my least favorite album from Gaga would probably be The Fame  

 

[LM 4,067]

22 minutes ago, Ronlop said:

Do your parents, friends and people around you know about the Oscars performance as much as they know about the meat dress or 'Rah rah ah-ah-ah! Ro mah ro-mah-mah'?

Who said anything about the Cheek To Cheek era not being critically acclaimed? Alot of albums that aren't even silver certified are critically acclaimed.

And your last comment is incorrect because my least favorite album from Gaga would probably be The Fame  

 

Honey, you are comparing her most succesful single and era to absolutelly something different...Ofc people know BR better than Oscar perfomance. It's like saying C2C flopped cause it didn't sold as much as TFM

[Ronlop 6,882]

8 minutes ago, LM said:

Honey, you are comparing her most succesful single and era to absolutelly something different...Ofc people know BR better than Oscar perfomance. It's like saying C2C flopped cause it didn't sold as much as TFM

Well...then I'll ask it differently if it wasn't clear. Do your parents, friends or people around you know about that Oscars performance or Cheek To Cheek at all? 

I never said C2C is a flop. I said it wasn't mainstream but I don't think any of us wanted it to go mainstream in the first place. A jazz album filled with covers from the Great American Songbook is not likely to appeal to the mass culture. 

[LM 4,067]

3 hours ago, Ronlop said:

Well...then I'll ask it differently if it wasn't clear. Do your parents, friends or people around you know about that Oscars performance or Cheek To Cheek at all? 

I never said C2C is a flop. I said it wasn't mainstream but I don't think any of us wanted it to go mainstream in the first place. A jazz album filled with covers from the Great American Songbook is not likely to appeal to the mass culture. 

Yes, some of my friends know about Oscars perfomance without me telling them. Nobody knows about c2c though, but I am from Czech Republic and our iTunes #1 has 7 coppies sold so people around me aren't good illustration of how much people know about Gaga's work. Oscars perfomance was meant to clear Gaga's image, and C2C to just make Gaga happy, not to be mainstream  so you can't expect people to know that

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I hate the word "SOON" and "Idk"

[Bloody 64,632]

Gaga is really so lucky to have him as a manager.He's so understanding, I love the fact that they have this relationship.  

[Didymus 34,380]

18 hours ago, Ronlop said:

Well...then I'll ask it differently if it wasn't clear. Do your parents, friends or people around you know about that Oscars performance or Cheek To Cheek at all? 

I never said C2C is a flop. I said it wasn't mainstream but I don't think any of us wanted it to go mainstream in the first place. A jazz album filled with covers from the Great American Songbook is not likely to appeal to the mass culture. 

Do you really think that our parents, friends or people around us knew anything about Gaga but the obvious media highlights? Sure, people know about the meat dress, but I guarantee you only a very narrow minority would know where she wore it and what the purpose of it was.

I think you confuse people being aware of things with people caring. Just because people pick up on things that are all over social media (of which the spread is mostly initiated by fans, let's be real) doesn't mean they have even a faint idea of anything else in her career. I rather have hundreds of thousands of people remembering the Oscars performance because it was good than billions of people who can hum Poker Face because they heard it on the radio 24/7.

If you really think the pinnacle of her career was people knowing she ever wore a meat dress at some point and people recognizing Bad Romance dance moves as originating from a music video, then I think you have a very sad point of view. That stuff is easily manufactured and it in no way reflects an artist's popularity or appeal. The fact that people will remember the meat dress but not The Fame Monster is already a sign that we probably shouldn't be nostalgic about her "mass appeal". People remember her gimmicks, not her artistry.

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On 12/5/2015, 5:16:23, CurlyBae said:

Yeah I agree with that. Gaga is not always needed on producing. But the other guy said that Gaga just writes lyrics. Which is not true in any way.

i didn't write this

this is what i wrote

On 12/4/2015, 11:51:27, NooNe said:

4. gaga is very involved in process of making music but it doesn't means  producers can't work without her 

 

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1 minute ago, NooNe said:

i didn't write this

this is what i wrote

 

This is also what you wrote 

"music isn't only lyrics, so" 

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On 12/5/2015, 11:40:30, Ronlop said:

Do your parents, friends and people around you know about the Oscars performance as much as they know about the meat dress or 'Rah rah ah-ah-ah! Ro mah ro-mah-mah'?

Who said anything about the Cheek To Cheek era not being critically acclaimed? Alot of albums that aren't even silver certified are critically acclaimed.

And your last comment is incorrect because my least favorite album from Gaga would probably be The Fame  

 

YES they know about it the Oscar performance because they all watched the awards ceremony. My ex boyfriend who is a self proclaim 'hater' of Gaga texted me the next morning and literally offered an apology for all the nasty comments he said about her in the past. My store manager, a 46 year old man was astonished. Even my grandmother was flabbergasted at the performance.

Whether or not my parents or older acquaintances know the hook to Bad Romance is irrelevant because they are not listening to mainstream pop. The way you appeal to that demographic is by doing exactly what Lady Gaga has done all this year. If she continues to pander solely to us, she won't find herself seated among the acclaimed artists. 

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The Oscar performance was amazing but a lot of people won't take that into account when her next pop album comes out because it's obviously a different style. I also highly doubt the higher age group will start buying her records because of that one performance. Gagas issue was never overexposure or crazy outfits, it's the quality of music. Generally people hate Justin bieber but his music is radio friendly and because of that he's successful. Applause did pretty well but ARTPOP just didn't do well. Overall the production was just messy and some songs like sexxx dreams and swine were just over produced. That's why it failed. I'm sure redone will help with that.

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Glad she's taking her time with the music. 

[Ronlop 6,882]

10 hours ago, Didymus said:

Do you really think that our parents, friends or people around us knew anything about Gaga but the obvious media highlights? Sure, people know about the meat dress, but I guarantee you only a very narrow minority would know where she wore it and what the purpose of it was.

I think you confuse people being aware of things with people caring. Just because people pick up on things that are all over social media (of which the spread is mostly initiated by fans, let's be real) doesn't mean they have even a faint idea of anything else in her career. I rather have hundreds of thousands of people remembering the Oscars performance because it was good than billions of people who can hum Poker Face because they heard it on the radio 24/7.

If you really think the pinnacle of her career was people knowing she ever wore a meat dress at some point and people recognizing Bad Romance dance moves as originating from a music video, then I think you have a very sad point of view. That stuff is easily manufactured and it in no way reflects an artist's popularity or appeal. The fact that people will remember the meat dress but not The Fame Monster is already a sign that we probably shouldn't be nostalgic about her "mass appeal". People remember her gimmicks, not her artistry.

Well, that's probably true.

It's true that people know who Lady Gaga is mostly because of her gimmicks but she still has her signature hits that everyone, back in the day, loved and found catchy. Poker Face, Just Dance, Bad Romance, Alejandro. Every song she released was destined to be a hit which further proves her dominance back then.

Those are the songs that were definitely considered mainstream and her gimmicks only helped her popularity (and not in a bad way at all considering she had a 240m grossing tour with The Monster Ball). That was the peak of her career- Gaga was definitely trendy during those days and it's ridiculous that some people compare that kind of mainstream success with an Oscars performance that basically just made celebrities tweet how much they loved it and some decent media coverage.

I think the pinnacle of her career (business wise) was that Lady Gaga was everywhere. And you know what? I don't need to prove it. Born This Way's hype and first week sales (both the album and single) prove it. Then, it went downhill which is okay after all!

Regarding your last sentence, I actually agree with you. When I said I want Bobby to aim high commercially, I don't want him to go back and promote the gimmicks (as Troy probably focused on), I want him to promote Gaga's vision. Will it appeal to everyone? I don't know but I want and hope to believe it will because I truly believe Gaga can re-invent herself in the pop scene with music that SHE wants to release.

To sum this up, I believe Gaga can be trendy again. I believe she can set a new trend. And that for me, would be her real comeback in the world.

Even if she won't, I'll still love her and recognize her incredible talent. I've brought this up because this topic is about Bobby.

 

 

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And what she and I have realized is that when she’s given ample time to prepare and doesn’t have too many things on her plate, she delivers her best work. So, we’ve taken the pace down slightly this year.