ARTPOPdidntflop 3,987 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 1 hour ago, Nino said: She built her career on an obsession with popularity and fame. It's pretty safe to say it's still important to her If you were to say todayGa is like FameGa then I would disagree Gaga x Nicki x Azealia x Ariana x Kesha x Bey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XoXoJoanneGaga 629 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 2 hours ago, ARTPOPdidntflop said: this is why i don't like Katy, she's so put together and there's nothing real about her. The music is all for sales and charts. Real artists don't give a f if they don't go #1-#10 So Gaga's not a real artist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XoXoJoanneGaga 629 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 1 hour ago, Lance said: uh its pretty obvious lmao everyone knows deep down she wants a smash her. she was even boasting at the BTWBall how everyone said BTW was a flop... Lol for real, and there's nothing wrong with that. Not every artist who counts chart success as one of their goals is automatically Katy Perry-tier faceless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 14 minutes ago, ARTPOPdidntflop said: If you were to say todayGa is like FameGa then I would disagree She's different but you don't just magically shift personalities and get motivated by completely different things. DWUW's existence proves she still cares a very large amount about all that hollywood celebrity pissing contest stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPdidntflop 3,987 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 7 minutes ago, Nino said: She's different but you don't just magically shift personalities and get motivated by completely different things. DWUW's existence proves she still cares a very large amount about all that hollywood celebrity pissing contest stuff. I think each of her albums had completely different goals tho. The goal of 'The Fame' was to mimic and attain "Fame" Gaga x Nicki x Azealia x Ariana x Kesha x Bey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Just now, ARTPOPdidntflop said: I think each of her albums had completely different goals tho. The goal of 'The Fame' was to mimic and attain "Fame" They were very different. However, at it's core the DWUW era showed how damaged the woman is by the constant comments from her detractors in the media. You can't care about detractors you don't listen to so she does care about the state of her career still. It's not a bad thing. She's a passionate, driven artist and should be celebrated for her incredible work she's done to become and stay famous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solitaire 902 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 5 hours ago, Lance said: Do you really want me to throw out Gaga's desperate tweets during the Applause and ARTPOP era? Gaga's been about wanting to have chart success since The Fame era. She tossed out the "muzic nawt teh bling" once things were falling apart. this video is just the biggest drag to debunk your claim and backup mine: so is Gaga "a fake artist" for wanting chart success...? Still think this video should have been played in movie theaters tbh - Previously Sycothisis Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPdidntflop 3,987 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 37 minutes ago, Nino said: They were very different. However, at it's core the DWUW era showed how damaged the woman is by the constant comments from her detractors in the media. You can't care about detractors you don't listen to so she does care about the state of her career still. It's not a bad thing. She's a passionate, driven artist and should be celebrated for her incredible work she's done to become and stay famous if someone is attacking you creations, whether or not you're profiting from it you're going to have this sense of protectiveness over it. It's your own, you've created this piece whether it be music, art, technology, a business. If someone tries to tear down your creativity you're gonna feel **** about it bc u put in the hard work Gaga x Nicki x Azealia x Ariana x Kesha x Bey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino 12 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Just now, ARTPOPdidntflop said: if someone is attacking you creations, whether or not you're profiting from it you're going to have this sense of protectiveness over it. It's your own, you've created this piece whether it be music, art, technology, a business. If someone tries to tear down your creativity you're gonna feel **** about it bc u put in the hard work I feel you and agree with your sentiment, but,that has literally nothing to do with what I was saying. DWUW was about the media's response to her personally, not to her art. Gaga's always been content to just put her music out without worrying too much about what the industry thinks. Her obsession with fame and her creativity are two very seperate things. However, Gaga does still care a lot about fame and success and the media, her words and her actions consistently have shown such even to this day. Gaga's worked her whole life to be at the top. Not giving credit to the planning and effort that went into it seems kind of disingenuous; we've all heard Gaga's stories about trying to make it in the pop music world. She cares a great deal and works very hard because of it. Why is it that you want to ignore that or even pretend it's never happened? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mobster 14,604 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 The background music is so dramatic, I'm f*cking dying ... get a grip Katherine, your singles do great commercially But I'm only a man and I do what I can. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 144,872 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Geez, Katy she doesn't need to worry. She's the most GP friendly artist out there...maybe 2nd to Taylor because of all the romance/break up songs Tay has. Same can be said about Adele Well Katy's one of the most GP friendly. Her singles will always be fun to dance to and they'll always chart so she doesn't need to worry at all. To the peeps discussing Gaga, I don't think she'd cry over her single being #128 in one country and #5 or higher in others. It's true that she likes to chart and she likes having hits (who wouldn't?) but I highly doubt that's her goal when making music. If it was, she'd be asking "Ok, what will radio stations play?" instead of "Ok, let me translate my life experience and feelings into words, put them with music that my friends and I made, then put it on an album to share with the world." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serendipity 7,821 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 5 hours ago, Lance said: Yes she does care. Any true Little Monster that isn't deluded knows that she wants another smash hit. Give it up Lance, you can't argue with them See talent here-->http://bit.ly/2eqeUxK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adelephant 288 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 She sounds so desperate for hits. Not a good look. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaMyBlood95 9,883 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 ET is like the best song she's released lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bio 23,538 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 5 hours ago, Nino said: I feel you and agree with your sentiment, but,that has literally nothing to do with what I was saying. DWUW was about the media's response to her personally, not to her art. Gaga's always been content to just put her music out without worrying too much about what the industry thinks. Her obsession with fame and her creativity are two very seperate things. However, Gaga does still care a lot about fame and success and the media, her words and her actions consistently have shown such even to this day. Gaga's worked her whole life to be at the top. Not giving credit to the planning and effort that went into it seems kind of disingenuous; we've all heard Gaga's stories about trying to make it in the pop music world. She cares a great deal and works very hard because of it. Why is it that you want to ignore that or even pretend it's never happened? I agree with you that Gaga cares very much about chart success but reading your post I can see you didn't understand at all what DWUW was about. "You can't have my heart and you won't use my mind but do what you want with my body". She's basically saying "you can criticize me for my image and my personality, but don't talk **** about my art". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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