mmm 879 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Just now, DrewStevens said: What you fail to realize is that the reason why someone hurts or kills INNOCENT people is not important and there's actually no reason to kill innocents. Osama killed innocent people who never killed a Muslim and he didn't even target the real problem, the reason why he killed them shouldn't matter at all. You have been avoiding parts of my arguments all this time. You avoided my argument about the recent killings because of religious beliefs, my argument about people who were killed because of their ideas, my argument about how ISIS uses Islam to justify their barbaric plans, my argument about how can you don't know everything or be educated on everything... The only point you have been trying to make is that thanks to the West, specially the US, some poor and hurt Muslims have had to become an extremist terrorist group whose only mission is to defend themselves from the world. I never said it mattered why innocent people are killed but you started the argument that people today kill each other because they have different opinions and I tried to challenge that and thats what started the argument about the reasons behind killing innocent people. You start your own arguments then tell me I shouldnt talk about it! you then say that I ignored all your arguments when I commented on all of these things but you just cant make the connection! Binladin justifies killing innocent people because their government is killing his people on a daily basis and refuse to give them freedom.. they even justify killing innocent muslim civilians to reach the west government and attack them. People in the Middle East are being killed from the sky with planes and drones and cant fight back these bigger powers and their own governments are allied puppets with the west so they kill what they can reach witch is innocent civilians or else they will die without anyone talking about them or try to help them! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andres Miller 206 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 28 minutes ago, Fays1 said: Having outlets for my feelings is not something im ashamed of and doesnt make my opinion less important.. I do have outlets in real life but I dont live in the west so when I see people talking about how they can nuke me and my people, I will call them out and give my opinion yet im the one being attacked not the person who said they can nuke us! You just want to make me feel lesser than you for obvious reasons I wont even try to do the same thing to you. You've been doing that exact thing this whole time whereas I've just been calling you out and even trying to sympathize with you. Never said your opinion was not important, as I said that I respected it, it just come across as very absolute. I hope you everything is okay in the area you live in. I can honestly say that I'm not very informed about the Middle East. Forgive me if I sound ignorant. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 2 minutes ago, Andres Miller said: You've been doing that exact thing this whole time whereas I've just been calling you out and even trying to sympathize with you. Never said your opinion was not important, as I said that I respected it, it just come across as very absolute. I hope you everything is okay in the area you live in. I can honestly say that I'm not very informed about the Middle East. Forgive me if I sound ignorant. I never attacked anyone personally.. I only made arguments without attacking anyone. My opinion comes out as absolute when the argument is about nuking my country and people in the name of morality! Yes I will call them and their government out to point it out to them. I live in a safe country we never had wars and I live in a very safe place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 24 minutes ago, Fays1 said: I never said it mattered why innocent people are killed but you started the argument that people today kill each other because they have different opinions and I tried to challenge that and thats what started the argument about the reasons behind killing innocent people. You start your own arguments then tell me I shouldnt talk about it! you then say that I ignored all your arguments when I commented on all of these things but you just cant make the connection! Binladin justifies killing innocent people because their government is killing his people on a daily basis and refuse to give them freedom.. they even justify killing innocent muslim civilians to reach the west government and attack them. People in the Middle East are being killed from the sky with planes and drones and cant fight back these bigger powers and their own governments are allied puppets with the west so they kill what they can reach witch is innocent civilians or else they will die without anyone talking about them or try to help them! I told you that you shouldn't be talking about it because you obviously didn't know much about the topic but you still have your opinion on it. Why are you still talking about was the point behind Osama's killings? He was a piece of **** just like everyone who is part of ISIS and no death of innocent people should be justified or even a--lyzed. It's barbaric and horrendous. Thankfully Osama bin Laden is dead and hopefully every member of ISIS will be too for the sake of the entire world. I'm guessing English is not your first language and that you don't manage it so well considering most of your posts are very hard to understand and you seem to not understand some parts of my arguments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Just now, DrewStevens said: I told you that you shouldn't be talking about it because you obviously didn't know much about the topic but you still have your opinion on it. Why are you still talking about was the point behind Osama's killings? He was a piece of **** just like everyone who is part of ISIS and no death of innocent people should be justified or even a--lyzed. It's barbaric and horrendous. Thankfully Osama bin Laden is dead and hopefully every member of ISIS will be too for the sake of the entire world. I'm guessing English is not your first language and that you don't manage it so well considering most of your posts are very hard to understand and you seem to not understand some parts of my arguments. My english is fine, its you who dont really know how to think.. I explained why im still talking about Binladin in my last comment! and yes it should be a--lyzed and we should know why these things happen so we can solve it. Saying they are horrible people and thats what make the west right is the wrong way of thinking and its what makes this problem repeat itself for decades. If people actually looked at the reasons why terrorists exist instead of seeing them as monsters that just do things for no reason, this problem would be solved by now but people cant see their mistakes because they cant comprehend that their government is just like ISIS. This is not my opinion, these are facts.. anything else you say is just assumptions and opinions that are invalid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 2 minutes ago, Fays1 said: My english is fine, its you who dont really know how to think.. I explained why im still talking about Binladin in my last comment! and yes it should be a--lyzed and we should know why these things happen so we can solve it. Saying they are horrible people and thats what make the west right is the wrong way of thinking and its what makes this problem repeat itself for decades. If people actually looked at the reasons why terrorists exist instead of seeing them as monsters that just do things for no reason, this problem would be solved by now but people cant see their mistakes because they cant comprehend that their government is just like ISIS. This is not my opinion, these are facts.. anything else you say is just assumptions and opinions that are invalid. Ok if your English is fine then you are the one who is not capable of reading it correctly or just not even trying to read. I NEVER said that the West was right and I NEVER justified the West's actions. We should a--lyze why this is happening but that doesn't mean we have to try to understand ISIS. They have to disappear, there's no time to sit down and dialogue with them. They have killed innocents from the West and they have killed innocents from the Middle East. They are not protecting anyone but themselves. The governments are corrupted, we all know that. We don't need anyone telling us that with murder. Saying how to stop the war is an opinion, it's not a fact. Keep thinking that you are always right and that everyone's arguments are invalid, it only makes you look like a moron who actually knows nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 40 minutes ago, DrewStevens said: We should a--lyze why this is happening but that doesn't mean we have to try to understand ISIS. They have to disappear, there's no time to sit down and dialogue with them. They have killed innocents from the West and they have killed innocents from the Middle East. They are not protecting anyone but themselves. The governments are corrupted, we all know that. We don't need anyone telling us that with murder. I never said to dialog with them or understand them and I support destroying all of them.. but I dont support destroying them not to make the west stronger and continue their crimes in the Middle East and that the west is right. They are both terrorists that need to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoFameMonster 1,592 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 On 2015-11-17, 12:14:39, Aura Veil said: I would agree but I am scared to get censored...... already happened ek... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoFameMonster 1,592 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 On 2015-11-17, 1:31:10, Dora said: O god we're going to be in a third world war with Trump as president. Americans need to get there heads out of there asses. I cannot take nothing you say serious with that picture..... your killing me.....hahahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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