Benji 20,113 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 4 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: How can something become hate speech is what I'm asking. German society will change. Something not considered offensive now might be hate speech in 100 years. Who reviews language and decides it should be added to hate speech legislation? "I don't agree with gay marriage" "All fags will burn in hell. I would never employ a fagg*t and I encourage everyone to do the same. If you see a fagg*t, spit on them." You see the difference? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Just now, Benji said: "I don't agree with gay marriage" "All fags will burn in hell. I would never employ a fagg*t and I encourage everyone to do the same. If you see a fagg*t, spit on them." You see the difference? I already know the difference, this doesn't answer my question. Qualle1 already answered. Although it's very broad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 5 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: I already know the difference, this doesn't answer my question. Qualle1 already answered. Although it's very broad. Honey, if you would heavily insult me, I would take you to the court, where a judge will decide to condemn you. Moreover we have also the prosecution here in Germany, who would also sue you, if there is also a "public interest" because of the "severity" of your insult - f. e. Holocaust denial. I hope you understand me. English is not my mother tongue... MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiphEret 1,320 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 2 hours ago, Tokyo Rose said: Jews are the most privileged, richest, and influential race in the world. You remind me of that antisemitic guy that was insulting me and my friend for not believing in a Jewish lobby...every community help each other it's human especially when pretty much everyone rejects you anyways. Sur le sable sur la neige, Sur les images dorées,Sur le front de mes amis, J’écris ton nom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I'm so conflicted on this and I'd rather not give my stance for once all I wanna know is how can she say it never existed? There's literal evidence and she must be old enough to have belt some of the effects of its existence. Crazy old woman. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 If I were president of the world I would make denying Gaga being better and more talented than any popstar including Madonna and Beyoncé punishable with life sentence LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 On Tue Nov 17 2015 01:22:08 GMT+0100, MJHolland said: Sorry. Coming from the United States, and thus a far more evolved democratic society, I believe we should tolerate everyone regardless of what they have to say or think and regardless of if it makes some people uncomfortable. USA a far more evolved democratic society? Maybe in comparsion with North Korea or Saudi Arabia - but seriously not in comparsion with most European countries, especially not with Germany... Your arrogance and artificialness as well as your "know it all" manner make you unbearable. MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007 5,291 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 I thought Germany had 'freedom of speech', guess it's just a gimmick after all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 1 minute ago, Assarrai said: I thought Germany had 'freedom of speech', guess it's just a gimmick after all. And where are you comming from? MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJHolland 12,725 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 25 minutes ago, Qualle1 said: USA a far more evolved democratic society? Maybe in comparsion with North Korea or Saudi Arabia - but seriously not in comparsion with most European countries, especially not with Germany... Your arrogance and artificialness as well as your "know it all" manner make you unbearable. The US wrote Germany's constitution/Basic Law bud. Study up before quoting me. Edit: Also we have freedom of speech and religion unlike most of Europe. Germany wasn't even democratic until the fall of the Berlin wall. lol. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007 5,291 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 12 minutes ago, Qualle1 said: And where are you comming from? Oman, but my country never considered or stated itself as 'liberal' or pushed the word 'freedom' on your face but then doesn't follow their own guidelines. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Evans 8,919 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 1984 is in no way the US that's just ignorant it's basically North Korea. As for her being sent to jail is rightful imo. Freedom of speech is overrated especially when you see these cases where people believe in the most hateful things and deny they had anything to do with it. Y'all are literally defending a nazi simply bc it's her "belief". I won't tolerate any hateful **** from anyone. There's crazy white/racist/homophobic republicans out there who believe Obama is a shape shifting reptilian muslim that pretended to be a Christian to get into the white house- does it mean they should go to jail? No. Does it mean they're wrong? Absolutely. But SOMETHING needs to be done when they're influencing politics and their beliefs can (unlikely) take us to a 1984 type situation. This woman denying the deaths of millions can only be explained by her believing she is of a master race- just like these white republicans. They're in the wrong but "freedom is speech" is always used to justify their hateful ways. It's funny bc fighting over the internet always has someone bring up Hitler as a response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 22 minutes ago, stfugaga said: 1984 is in no way the US that's just ignorant it's basically North Korea. As for her being sent to jail is rightful imo. Freedom of speech is overrated especially when you see these cases where people believe in the most hateful things and deny they had anything to do with it. Y'all are literally defending a nazi simply bc it's her "belief". I won't tolerate any hateful **** from anyone. There's crazy white/racist/homophobic republicans out there who believe Obama is a shape shifting reptilian muslim that pretended to be a Christian to get into the white house- does it mean they should go to jail? No. Does it mean they're wrong? Absolutely. But SOMETHING needs to be done when they're influencing politics and their beliefs can (unlikely) take us to a 1984 type situation. This woman denying the deaths of millions can only be explained by her believing she is of a master race- just like these white republicans. They're in the wrong but "freedom is speech" is always used to justify their hateful ways. It's funny bc fighting over the internet always has someone bring up Hitler as a response. When this elderly woman leaves prison she will undoubtedly remain steadfast in her belief that the Holocaust never happened. Since you support the imprisonment of individuals who hold radically unpopular opinions what do you suggest we do after she is released? She received ten months in prison, would you rather she have receive more time? What about a life sentence, or capital punishment? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qualle1 1,385 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 2 hours ago, MJHolland said: The US wrote Germany's constitution/Basic Law bud. Study up before quoting me. Edit: Also we have freedom of speech and religion unlike most of Europe. Germany wasn't even democratic until the fall of the Berlin wall. lol. GERMANY WASN'T EVEN DEMOCRATIC UNTIL THE FALL OF THE BERLIN WALL????? EVER HEARD ABOUT WEST GERMANY AND EAST GERMANY AS WELL AS THEIR DIFFERENT POLITICAL SYSTEMS - BEFORE THE GERMAN UNIFICATION HAPPENED IN 1990????? You seem to have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. And your dumb drivel about Europe is getting absolutely ridiculous... MAKE LOVE NOT WAR Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goosey 3,017 Posted November 19, 2015 Share Posted November 19, 2015 6 hours ago, Qualle1 said: I am also extremely glad that YOU don't live here... Likewise, apparently your values are incompatible with our free society, so you can keep them. "I am the world's greatest person that does not want to let people into the country."—US President Donald J. Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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