Would Iggy Azalea be taken more seriously if she was black?

[Auro 1,822]

The thing about asking "Would _____ be more _____ if they were ____" is that if they were a different race/gender/etc. then their voice would be much different than it is currently

[Sexxx 5,531]

12 minutes ago, WarholGaga said:

Likely. I don't like rap in the slightest but Iggy Azalea really doesn't seem any worse than say Nicki Minaj, even better. 

what

[Iwontell 7,312]

Well, if she was black, one of the biggest criticisms against her (cultural appropriation) wouldn't be plausible...so it would all come down to how her skills as a rapper compare to her contemporaries...

I think she's almost on pair with Nicki, who's big and respected...so, yeah, she'd probably get more credit for what she does...

[Real Panda 7,599]

10 minutes ago, F AM E said:

First things first, she can't rap

I dont understand what you mean? What is she doing in her songs then? 

[Felicia 124]

Are you insinuating that people have ever taken her seriously?

[The Child 18,997]

She has the worst combination ever, she's not only white in a music genre that is dominated mostly by black but she's also a female in a music genre where most of the predominant rappers are black.

[inuborg 4,135]

Nah, would still be untalented.

Actually she have gotten NO attention if she was black. 

[Harry 26,836]

For goodness sake why would you make this thread? It will just go round and round in circles because some people think she's crap and some people think she's great. That's how the world works.

Your entire argument is based around the fact you think she's "good". That's all. You have no evidence to suggest that her ethnicity alone plays any part. The only reason her whiteness comes into it is because of her past racist comments and her cluelessness when it comes to addressing/responding to the totally valid criticisms and concerns aimed at her. I'm sorry but any white person proudly calling themselves a slave master in a music video whilst cracking a whip is an absolute MORON and has no clue, no matter how many times they apologise for it.

In regards to whether her 'talent' would be taken seriously - no. I'm sure we've all seen these.

Any rapper, black, white, Asian or anything else would be laughed at if they spouted their lyrics out in that unintelligible way. I can barely understand her whenever I see her performing live, and I have actually seen her live. Studio does wonders.

With the freestyle video, there's so many things to say about it that have no doubt been brought up a million times that I won't even bother. If you think it shows anything more than an untalented and phony rapper then you're as clueless as she is. The way she delivers a verse from her album under the guise of a freestyle, the way T.I. literally starts pacing the room in sheer panic as soon as he realises what she's been asked to do because he knows that his little manufactured machine is incapable.

The accent she puts on only to rap is embarrassing and borderline offensive.

Her ghostwriter has come forward. What does she actually do?

Maybe she is subject to more scrutiny in the rap game as a white person, just as Eminem was when his career began. The difference there is that... none of the above points apply to him. Sure, she's a woman too. And there is definitely discrimination against women in hip-hop. I still don't think most straight male hip-hop fans respect Nicki or even Kim. So that probably doesn't help her.

You could even play devil's advocate and argue that being the only 'white girl' of hip-hop helped her get attention.

If she was black none of the stuff I said about her critics would be valid, and it would only be the 'talent' issues that were relevant. So with that considered, I'm going to say no.

[SissyFromSpace 20,883]

3 minutes ago, inuborg said:

 

Actually she have gotten NO attention if she was black. 

thats a lie. theres plenty of successful black artists.

[SissyFromSpace 20,883]

anyone who questions iggy's talent is racist. shes super talented. why does she have hits + success?

 

talent. duh. irrelevant viral videos don't do anything or mean anything.

[LoveandMagic 1,731]

Well, I do think it's harder for a white rapper to play the game and be successful, but it's a hard game period. I've seen some immensely talented (in my opinion) women freestyle on youtube during battles and I'm sitting there wondering why they haven't been picked up yet. The Entertainment industry is often a hateful b---h and the music industry can be even more vicious I think for a struggling artist (you can't use your looks on the radio, and not everyone will see the visual promo stuff). Rap is especially difficult because the artist is expected to be quick thinking and talented (free style) and for women they want that s-x appeal and confidence. Now Iggy is a gorgeous girl, no question. But (and no hate to Iggy) her freestyling needs serious work. I think she has gotten better on the performance aspect of her shows (and I think she has a nice flow), but she seems to struggle with off-the-cuff stuff. I do believe she genuinely enjoys hip hop and probably likes performing it, but if she wanted to be respected as a rap artist, she needs to be able to freestyle. Now, as for a pop act, she can get away with that stuff sometimes, but not as a hip-pop act. Had she been black, her controversial statements probably wouldn't be as scrutinized, maybe, but I see Azealia getting called out a lot for her controversial tweets a lot so then again, maybe not. Also again keep in mind as a white, blonde, Aussie rapper she is very much a novelty in the States, so I think that has helped her a bit.

 

[Higher 2,406]

Nope. She doesn't write her own lyrics, her lyrics are childish, she sounds like a dying cat, and she isn't attractive Imo and if she was black nobody would know who she was.

[SychosSoChic 9,995]

Seriously? Maybe, and largely irrelevant.

Would she be given a chance or less flack by a lot of the people hating on her? Definitely.

[Carmex 964]

Yes but even then she'd get slack for her terrible lyrical content.

[Hexxx 2,244]

no because there aer a lot of black rappers that can't rap. the list goes on and on. but i would REALLY love it azealia rapped with HER REAL accent.