Why all of a sudden?

[Twitter 14]

I was disappointed with Sex Dreams to Sexxx Dreams  otherwise ARTPOP wasn't bad imo!

[SychosSoChic 9,995]

This thread?  

Again?

Leave these threads in the past. We don't need to talk about this again  

[Puddin 1,207]

I loved ARTPOP and I still do  it made me a stan

[Creyk 17,805]

The songs got old real quick and now they are not enjoyable.

 

[AlphaMonster 1,806]

I liked samples because all songs had so much more potential. But only songs who could reach their potentials were Applause and Do What U Want in my opinion... 

That's the reason why for me.

For example, Dope (Drew Stevens Remix), Swine (Drew Stevens Remix) were some versions of these who fulfilled their potentials.

[PrinceGaga 7,585]

I'm so in love with ARTPOP and I love all the songs on it. Yes that's right. The only annoyance i have with it is the 'U' instead of 'You' in DWUW. 

[SlaeUrAnus 15,955]

Jesus and ya'll wonder why some of us whinge about ARTPOP.

There is a god damn thread posted everyday about its 'not so good' era and the ARTPOP stans and those that did not like the album start conflicting  

It had alright music (G.U.Y, DWUW and Aura are bops) but s--tty management and s--tty decisions ruined it for me. 

[FGGrayson 9,670]

I was disappointed with Sex Dreams to Sexxx Dreams  otherwise ARTPOP wasn't bad imo!

oh no!! that's my number 1  

[Dramatica 13,690]

It's not a bad album. We just need new material 

[Bury Me 477]

Tbh I always disliked it, from day one.

I remember being so dissapointed after first listen. I really thought she would release her best album, especially after Born This Way that I enjoyed a lot. I expected it to be even better than Born This Way.

But it wasn't lol.

[BricksNStrings 231]

 

That is such a cop out, it really is.

If anything fan bases often have the opposite instinct, they bandwagon around an artist's ugly duckling period as a way of insulating that project from criticism. That is what you are doing, that is what everyone here who is calling other people sheep is doing. You are just dismissing criticism of ARTPOP by labeling its detractors sheep and bandwagoners. It's so silly.

The reality is, ARTPOP was a rush release, and that effected the quality. It received mixed reviews for a reason. It's her first album not to receive Grammy nominations for a reason. The reason is not "everyone hates my fav now wahhh." The reason is, the quality of the music isn't up to par.

I usually see you as one of the most sensible posters here, and even on opinions I disagree with I can appreciate your big picture viewpoint and funny/sensible no nonsense approach. However, stating for a fact that it was a rush release and quality suffered as a result, then acting like that had some kind of bearing on critical discourse (when it's pretty clear that in the pop music/popular culture sphere quality is hardly the only metric upon which releases are judged) seems like such a leap. I'm not taking issue with, to be reductive about your claim, "ARTPOP sucks", but rather with "it sucks because it was rushed, and then the public saw it for what it was." I follow the posts of mindtrappa, the user on PopJustice who has a very proven trackrecord as an insider and frequently gets specific about things as mundane as what city Gaga was in when she wrote Insert Song Here, and he seems to absolutely acknowledge the chaos that surrounded the creation and release, including mentioning several times that her confidence on certain versions of songs wavered....but in his version of events, again A version,  the record was pretty specifically sketched out from 2012 until release and remains largely similiar to its original concept, despite a few major changes to tracklists, Burqa becoming Aura, Brooklyn Nights/Temple being saved for fabled app and Dope being added, and in spite of the long held firm belief of all fans, detractors and defenders, that some mythical 2012 "original" version  exists that then Interscope/Troy/PrincessHigh/Satan scrapped to destroy the lives of stans everywhere. Meanwhile, in an age where Taylor Swift, bless her, wins the highest music honor in all the land, can we really claim quality is the sole metric upon which these kind of things are judged?

To be clear, I am an ARTPOP apologist, and also don't take issue with your distaste for it, but I had the sudden urge to fulfill my destiny as "that one guy". 

[AbuHassan1992 766]

Some people let charts and sales affect their definition of "good music" when in reality it has zero influence on quality. 

 

just look at the velvet underground

[elijahfan 26,034]

It's mainly explained by the excitement of the release. As time goes by, people see if they actually like the music or not. But I guess this isn't the only reason - now that the ARTPOP era is over, we can reflect on what it was, and unfortunately what it could have been, which can explain why some Monsters may not keep a very fond memory of it.

[BloodyM 1,256]

TBH I was a little disappointed with ARTPOP at first as I thought it would be more experimental, a bit more techno based, Trance and Rave influenced, but we all have to be honest and admit that some of us got caught up in the negativity the media and gp had towards Gaga. ARTPOP is a good solid pop album and tbf it's sad that the hate got so personal. 

I learnt how to appreciate it more after attending Artrave. The music was AMAZING with her band and I do hope that her next album will be recorded with actual instruments.  

Ironically enough ARTPOP served its message, Music not the bling.

[Benji 20,113]

Why can't some of you comprehend that there's people that simply do not like the album? Just because it didn't sell as expected doesn't mean it should be treated any better or worse than her others. It comes down to quality.... and it was just simply not as good as her other's.

Is ARTPOP good? Yeah, it's alright but in comparison to her other's it's just simply not up to par for many people.

I get that some of you disagree, but you'll probably find that people will stop saying what makes it bad (which seems to upset you all  ) when you stop making threads and comments digging at those people's opinions?

I wouldn't dare make a thread calling out everyone for blindly stanning for ARTPOP because it seems to make them feel "superior" despite it being her most inferior album.... so why do the opposite? Just let people have their opinions.

If you were that confident and happy in ARTPOP, people's opinions wouldn't bother any of you to this extent