Ronk 14,760 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Gaga used her artistry and creativity to help her troubled fans. Helping people has been and still is what she is all about as a person. I'm glad she has finally said recently what many fans have known for years; it's the reason she was born. 2:40 into this old interview sheds some light on this: https://vimeo.com/124484990 I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 a performance artist making a performance is going to "be" that performance and it will be as real as, well, reality, to them in that moment. Just saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 What she meant by saying she wasn't a persona was that she wasn't fake or putting in an act for money. Everything we see comes from her head, not her manager telling her to be weird. That's what she meant. She meant that she is one with Gaga as a hybrid. She is her imagination because she's successful enough to be both. She is art and pop. People who hate her think she just rips off her blonde wig and is brunette under and she is told what tto do and say, and that she pretends to be creative, or that she doesn't write her music.when she says "Gaga is not a persona", she is saying "I'm not fake, even when I'm pretending to be an alien escapee hybrid electro-pop singer, it's still me because it's all my idea."Amen Fashion. How does that in any way contradict what I wrote? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PMKKARDASHiAN 8,570 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Yesssss EXACTLY! Perfectly put. I saw this transition during The Fame Monster and especially during Born This Way and, to be honest, it freaked me out 'cause I felt that her artistic message was basically falling apart and therefore looking.. well, unworthy of investigating. She went from living social commentary to the great singer who loves her fans so much and I was disappointed that she seemed to actively support this transition. I understand it better now, but yeah, I agree that the artistic result of her trying to do both (well, if I'm honest, she gave up trying in 2011 and only picked it back up very sporadically until the end of 2012) was just unconvincing and unsatisfying. I definitely think she'll settle for the relatable demeanor. It fits in perfectly with her wanting to be an actress. Just to repeat myself for others: I don't think that's a bad thing, but as a fan who indeed appreciated The Fame as an artistic explosion of promising magnitude I do think it should be obvious why I'm reluctant to cheer about it. I have never since the BTW transition been able to explain the shift but you did perfectly just now! Thank you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 So no, Benji didn't "call", anything. Even her close friends and Monsters (like me) call her Stefani. She knows she's not an alien. But it's all her. Y'all salty af. I won't rub extra in the wounds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 legendT benji Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 She didn't say that in the video you posted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashamednudist 164 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 my english is bad but let me try to explain;one person can have a multiple personas(or i should say persona is fluid), each one for different social areas; says in sociologylike you are feel and act different in front of your parents than to your friends or other people/the stagein stefani's situation its gaga agressive and the powerful vamp lady who can be get puked on stage and do whatever she wants; maybe its a neccesity to her to not collapse on stage in front of thousands peopleits not that gaga isn't a part of her or fake or an act Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayman 6,151 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Lady Gaga isn't a character. By creating this new persona it allows her to be an even more truthful version of herself. When not having to worry about what people think of her as Stefani Germanotta she can do what she really wants to as Lady Gaga. On some level it's like attaching your actions to someone elses name so you feel truly comfortable doing them without judgment.I know this fanbase isn't crazy about them, but a similar example is Die Antwoord. They "created" Ninja and Yo-Landi as characters of sort, but at the same time it gave them a new level of confidence that made them realize that they were being more truthful than they would be than if they were going by Watkin and Anri.Personas like these may be created for one reason, but the line starts to blur between what is the created "character" and what is the real person. That's what we are seeing here. She doesn't need to be "Lady Gaga" 24/7 anymore and can be comfortable being just "Stefani" because she knows who she is and is confident in it and not worried about judgment in the same way she maybe was 5 years ago.That being said, it's not like I know every detail of her life personally so I'm just giving an outsiders perspective on all of this and could be completely off base... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Judas Oyster 1,914 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 It's actually a little amusing that she gave that up right in the beginning of 2010 and developed every single year into a more human form, until she actually had the balls now to say that the entire thing was a way to cope with her own problems, stripping her entire career of any artistic worth, basically. It's quite sad, actually, if she's really telling the truth.I understood her this way:...until she actually HAS the balls now to say that the entire thing IS a way to cope with her own problems.Yes, she's more "normal looking" now but I think it's just bc of C2C/Oscars/AHS eras. We still don't know how the next era will be :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy McQueen 4,484 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Everyone of you should read "Rivington was ours" - alter egos are not faked characters, there are just a different side of one's self. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 I understood her this way:...until she actually HAS the balls now to say that the entire thing IS a way to cope with her own problems.I already addressed this and I do think it's a wonderful message but I think fans are overestimating its wildness or bravery. I mean, everyone knows this. Art is a way of coping with personal problems in most circumstances. It might seem like Gaga made some revolutionary statement, but in fact she's saying one of the most obvious things an artist could say.Why that bothers me is precisely because of why I loved Gaga as an artist: she wanted to be living art. And she has murdered that idea year by year. Again: I don't think that's a bad thing 'cause she evolves her artistry the way she wants to, but it explains why I'm disappointed, because all her amazing ideas are just left sitting somewhere in her earliest era, hinted at but never expressed and forgotten in this fanbase even though it's what could have cemented the spectacular innovation in pop history. Now she's just another pop singer with a large and devoted fanbase. I had bigger hopes for her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrFameKills 1,600 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 benji is love benji is life wish ya good fortune in tha wars 2 come Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javier Gallo 199 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 She has stated before that "Lady Gaga is her performance art" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeGoneGaga 86 Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 Does it matter really? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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