Are you stuck inside Gaga's world?

[Gagaloo911 12,959]

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Ever since AHS, I feel like I can't relate to Gaga that much anymore. The past few weeks I have just been checking here once or twice a day and spending maybe 15 minutes max. Maybe I'm just phasing out of my obsession. Recently I have been thinking a lot about my own career and aspirations. I realized that spending so much time discussing and experiencing her life, isn't going to improve my own life in the long run. Witnessing her life is really just a distraction from me following my own dreams because It feels like I am living through her. Its like she has been giving us this fake sense of fulfillment that feels so real. But it isn't real. One day we are all going to wake up and feel so empty, because we spent so much time idolizing someone else instead of becoming great people like her.  It took me awhile to admit to this, but I have been using Gaga as a crutch for the past 5 years. I don't think I have been living my own life to the fullest because I was so stuck inside her world.

Can anyone else relate? 

this applies to a huge percentage of pop stans IMO.   They live their lives vicariously through pop stars; it's why there are so many stupid arguments and stans being competitive in the pop world.  Congratulations on growing out of it.  As Obi-Wan-Kenobi would say "you've taken the first step into a larger world."

[SharGaga 2,906]

Live yo life sis. 

[Didymus 34,379]

Meanwhile you're here talking about Gaga all the time.

just saying 

That's not a response to my post and you know it. Or maybe you don't 'cause I imagine you didn't read it.

[Didymus 34,379]

From very early on she crafted the image of the underdog. Dropped from record labels. Doing what's not popular. You know all the narratives. But the reality is that she's the most successful and "winning" "underdog" of all time. After tens of stripped down piano performances, she manages to maintain for YEARS the "I didn't know she could sing!/play!/perform! like that" reactions. I do believe its been very well thought out and executed; I just don't take issue with it. It shatters no illusions if she is strategic. It ruins nothing for me that she controls her narrative. I feel this way because she's told us this largely from the start: student of fame/master of fame, so public it keeps her private, you see me for what I choose you to see, etc.

I very much believe that her entire career, including the collective zeitgeist of her fans, will be viewed as a massive performance that spans decades. It doesn't mean she isn't genuine, it means she's being genuine with intention. That being said, boy have I been enjoying the show.

Thanks for a great post @Didymus. I'm tacking onto it more for a continuation of an idea than a counter. :)

Very interesting points

I guess I feel the same way with some subtle but important difference: I actually thought her "I'm never going to let anyone understand me - when they think they get me, I'll transform" (I'm not quoting literally but that's something she said in one of her first interviews in 2008) fell apart in 2010 when all she seemed to care about was her fans. I didn't even really think about her "master of fame" stuff because I assumed she no longer cared about that now that she grew so close to her fans and, to be blatantly honest, she didn't make any artistic statement from 2010 until now that she didn't already make in her The Fame era. Which is why I considered TFM/BTW/ARTPOP/C2C as sort of.. an extenuation of her success instead of her artistic capabilities - which is why I always identify her "master of fame" statements with 2008-2009 only.

It's hard for me to unite her strategic genius (which it is, who can doubt that) with all the years of fan service, but I guess you made me think of a solution: "genuine with intention". That's pretty genius. When I read it, I feel it's correct.

She was constantly craving unconditional love.Gaga was so deeply emotional at times and confused and just rambled on on stage, out of control, especially during the BTW ball, as if we were her only friends. It made me worry about her mental health. On top of her being depressed, she got bombarded with sad stories of teens. At one point Littlemonsters.com was filled to the brim with kids talking about self mutilation and suicide. Gaga by nature wants to help, but it's too overwhelming for her and too much to bear. She was clinging to us, cute stuffed animals, Tara, weed...

She founded the foundation to tackle the issue in a constructive way, so she still can help, but she doesn't feel as responsible or like she has to do it all herself like some modern day Jesus healing the wounded souls by hugging every fan on her path.

I noticed she has slowly and subtlely taken more distance from her fans. She's not on lm.com anymore. 

She can now walk out a hotel without stopping and not be hurt with guilt, which is good. Seriously, one time her bodyguard Peter told us Gaga was crying her eyes out when she wanted to meet us at her hotel after a show but couldn't cause she was jumped by paparazzi. I love that she cared, but to cry over it? She really was in a difficult place.

She now feels love and support from Taylor, her doggies, her family and friends and if she feels like it, we are there. I think it will balance out even more over the years.

Now this is also a brilliant post Couldn't agree more! It reminds me of the few times she said "No one prepared me for the fans." To tie into what Voltaire was saying, it's probable that she had a strategic outline to gain and keep a fanbase using social media etc. (which is still her most brilliant achievement that so many fans fail to even think of when they imagine her legacy) but that this doesn't necessarily lead to the conclusion, indeed, that she's heartless and never cared at all.

Her ambivalence also showed in a memorable GGD event: Emma telling us all that Gaga stopped visiting the forum because there was too much "negativity" (and that negativity was everyone complaining about her not being on a high, commercially). When Emma then later on Radio ARTPOP made the statement: "If you only care about charts, she doesn't even think of you as a fan" that nearly tore this place apart, especially since that statement was so in contrast to Gaga's (widely criticized) commercial tactics, (ab)using the power of her fanbase, to get on exactly that commercial high.

Just that one example tells me that there's probably a lot of tension between her genuine desire to be a beacon for young people and the original strategic blueprint that was supposed to keep her fanbase together from the start. I do think that a foundation like BTWF and a more healthy relationship (that she now seems to be developing, I agree 100%) is something she needs at this point, even if it's just to give her some peace of mind. We all fell in love with Gaga for the artistic output she delivered and sometimes it feels to me that during C2C she learned how to do that again - making art for herself and her friends (which she poignantly remarked in a recent Instagram post) and then showing the world (notice how she doesn't mention her fans specifically) as the final phase of the artistic process.

So the future is looking good imo too.

I'm so happy with these replies, you have no idea Many others seem perfectly content to actively misread everything that's being said here.

[Katie14 4,828]

 

As her mom explains here:

 

Where do you live? It says that video isn't available in my country.

Edit: Nevermind, I found another video.

[ByeBye49 161]

Being a hardcore Gaga fan won't stop me from living my life and chasing my dreams. I can do both.

^

[Juvelius 375]

i listen ARTPOP ot CTC even nowadays on the bus with my headphones. That s the part where she is in my life. Also i am checking out this forum and others artists not more than1 hour a day. Why do you have to be a diehard fan with no life??????????? i don t get it!!!

[GagaMyBlood95 9,915]

Unfortunatelly, it is true but I guess "Gaga's world" is allowing me to escape reality which I often need to do..

[Guest]

Keeping up with her life and achievements has always just inspired me to pursue my dreams even more. She was never a distraction for me; she was more like a motivational coach. With every outfit, performance, and accomplishment, it was like she was saying "Look at what I'm doing and how far I've come. Now, you go pursue your dreams because if I can do these things that I'm doing, you can do anything you put your mind to." She's been an inspiration for me more than a distraction.

[BULATIO 1,635]

For me it is a legend , not just a superstar. Lady Gaga has become a classic in the world of music . All this makes me more loyal to her throughout. 

[BULATIO 1,635]

She knows what makes
 

[ChicaSkas 22,945]

Ever since AHS, I feel like I can't relate to Gaga that much anymore. The past few weeks I have just been checking here once or twice a day and spending maybe 15 minutes max. Maybe I'm just phasing out of my obsession. Recently I have been thinking a lot about my own career and aspirations. I realized that spending so much time discussing and experiencing her life, isn't going to improve my own life in the long run. Witnessing her life is really just a distraction from me following my own dreams because It feels like I am living through her. Its like she has been giving us this fake sense of fulfillment that feels so real. But it isn't real. One day we are all going to wake up and feel so empty, because we spent so much time idolizing someone else instead of becoming great people like her.  It took me awhile to admit to this, but I have been using Gaga as a crutch for the past 5 years. I don't think I have been living my own life to the fullest because I was so stuck inside her world.

Can anyone else relate?

not to all of it, but a whole hell of a lot.

[ARTPOPdidntflop 3,987]

this thread has turned into a joke after that Emotion Revolution interview

[Petrichor 4,640]

Honestly I do not consider myself a huge Little Monster anymore. I will always be a fan of Gaga and her endeavors, especially those in the music industry. However, I became a huge fan of hers all the way back in seventh grade right after the release of "Just Dance." Since that time, I have grown both physically and mentally as a person, and now I am free-thinking adult in college with a job and social life. Back then, I was just a child whose views of the worlds were very narrow and one-sided. As I grew up, Gaga certainly helped me in some ways become the person I am today. 'The Fame' and 'The Fame Monster' helped me open to who I was and allowed me to feel free and uninhibited in all I did, while "Born This Way" helped me accept my s-xuality fully as well as my self, during a time when I was grossly overweight in a school population where there was not a lot of kindness. ARTPOP is an album that reaffirmed my love of art, pop culture, and creativity in general, all the while helping me decide my major in school. There will always be a little part of the fan I was inside of me. I just have to make more room for life and the other adventures that await me.