Kayla 7,595 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Seems to me like Zionism :) Zionists believe that their race and DNA is superior to the rest of the world and that they are the chosen people to the point where they justify the right to a land to their DNA.. they also created an apartheid state against a specific race and created wars to make palestinians leave the country to be the minority and then put them inside a big wall jail and not allow anyone to leave or enter and many families were forever split because of this. There is some minor differences between Zionism and Nazism but as I said they have alot in common, I did not say they are identical. Zionism is the new and modern Nazism but they do it in a more civilized way and make it look better.Many people talked about the subject of the first page but after people said what they did and made their point, the discussion evolves.. this is how arguments go and this is how it should be and this is how people learn from each others different opinion. If people dont like the topic, they will criticize it and if you dont like that, maybe you should not be a mod in a forum because thats what forums and comments are made for. Also, nobody was acting in a vicious way!!Don't come for me like that. For one, your criticism of me is inaccurate. If I didn't like people criticizing a topic I would have warned the people saying "Free Palestine!" on page one, but I didn't. I do a fine job as a Moderator allowing people to criticize topics constructively; I'm just here to make sure the conversation stays on topic. And historically this particular topic has ended with people jumping down each other's throats over their stances. This thread is about a holy site being set on fire, and it seemed Simon's initial intentions with the thread were to focus on that individual topic, preferably in a way that is respectful to the holy site that was lost. Page 5 had people talking about Egpyt (which is about 720 miles away from the site this thread is actually about), so clearly we've veered a bit off course since Page 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Well you always wrote "Zionism" when always you could write Judaism in it (eg. Chosen people) Well, I can tell you that this is offensive and that it is anti-semitic to compare Zionism to Nazism. I guess you don't get, Anti-semites normally don't get stuff like that when they crossed a line. I'm done discussing with you because you bring my family to shame. It not comparable. You don't go into my argument either, so why am I doing this? There are other countries would way more fit into the Nazism scheme than Israel (e.g. Saudia Arabia) , but even they don't are really comparable to each other. None of your comments are actually arguments! when you give big statements and accuse others of racism, you should atleast give an argument.. yet you havent done that even after me asking you to do so a couple of times. You also say that being against zionist makes me a racist but you still did not explain how being against an organization can make someone a racist! Organization are not linked to race and thats why many jews dont consider themselves zionists and are still jewish religiously and athnically. You cant compare Saudi Arabia to Zionism as Saudi Arabia dont really deal with race and DNA but you can compare them to Alqaeda or ISIS and I wont call you a racist. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 None of your comments are actually arguments! when you give big statements and accuse others of racism, you should atleast give an argument.. yet you havent done that even after me asking you to do so a couple of times. You also say that being against zionist makes me a racist but you still did not explain how being against an organization can make someone a racist! Organization are not linked to race and thats why many jews dont consider themselves zionists and are still jewish religiously and athnically. You cant compare Saudi Arabia to Zionism as Saudi Arabia dont really deal with race and DNA but you can compare them to Alqaeda or ISIS and I wont call you a racist.I said several times that it can't be compared because Nazism and Zionism are completly different things. And I suggested you to visit Auschwitz. So you compare Zionists to people who behead people on daily basis? Seriously, I'm done. I'm done, bye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I said several times that it can't be compared because Nazism and Zionism are completly different things. And I suggested you to visit Auschwitz. So you compare Zionists to people who behead people on daily basis? Seriously, I'm done. I'm done, bye. Thats not answering my question though! I asked why em I being accused of racism for being against zionism. You can say im wrong and explain why but you cant accuse me of racist for obvious reasons I already explained.I also did not compare Zionism to ISIS and Alqaeda (although I could easily make that argument), I said if you compare ISIS and Alqaeda to Saudi Arabia, I wont accuse you of racism because I know what the definition of racism is and I dont use that word loosely.My advice to you is ignore me and my arguments and act like your offended so you wont have to challenge me because you will lose this argument if you tried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Thats not answering my question though! I asked why em I being accused of racism for being against zionism. You can say im wrong and explain why but you cant accuse me of racist for obvious reasons I already explained.I also did not compare Zionism to ISIS and Alqaeda (although I could easily make that argument), I said if you compare ISIS and Alqaeda to Saudi Arabia, I wont accuse you of racism because I know what the definition of racism is and I dont use that word loosely.My advice to you is ignore me and my arguments and act like your offended so you wont have to challenge me because you will lose this argument if you tried.I never accused of your criticizing zionism as anti-semitic. The way you do it is anti semitic (comparing Zionism to Nazim) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 I never accused of your criticizing zionism as anti-semitic. The way you do it is anti semitic (comparing Zionism to Nazim) Tell me how then.. how is comparing two organizations that have nothing to do with race racist? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Intifada or not, something powerful is going onhttp://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2015/10/palestine-intifada-powerful-151016094419464.htmlThis is a pretty good take on the situation from the Palestinian's point of view... by Al JazeeraGives a balanced perspective imo.... like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Tell me how then.. how is comparing two organizations that have nothing to do with race racist? "seems to me" shows that your opinion has no basis in actual facts. The belief that their political and/or social system is superior isn't a problem to me, that is in fact what separates entire nationalities. Nowhere do the Jewish or Zionistic approach to society attempt to exterminate everyone else. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 "seems to me" shows that your opinion has no basis in actual facts. The belief that their political and/or social system is superior isn't a problem to me, that is in fact what separates entire nationalities. Nowhere do the Jewish or Zionistic approach to society attempt to exterminate everyone else. But its still not racist to compare the two.. all nations see themselves as superior but they dont justify their actions because of DNA! and when they steal another country, they dont create an apartheid against a specific race! they also dont put athnic groups inside a big wall jail forever and not allow anyone to leave or enter and bomb them for decades. Seems to me like Nazi Germany if you ask me but more passive and with the appearance of looking more civilized. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 But its still not racist to compare the two.. all nations see themselves as superior but they dont justify their actions because of DNA! and when they steal another country, they dont create an apartheid against a specific race! they also dont put athnic groups inside a big wall jail forever and not allow anyone to leave or enter and bomb them for decades. Seems to me like Nazi Germany if you ask me but more passive and with the appearance of looking more civilized.Your reasoning is insulting...The land issues are unrelated to the Nazism. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Kerry calls Abbas, Netanyahu to urge Mideast calm: US officialhttp://news.yahoo.com/kerry-calls-abbas-netanyahu-urge-mideast-calm-us-205715334.htmlThe U.S. leadership is concerned about the escalation of violence. Calling for moderation on Isreal's part ... their 'provocations' may seem small but are apparently a big deal to the Muslim faith. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Your reasoning is insulting...The land issues are unrelated to the Nazism.Yet you have no argument to present.. being insulted is not an argument! I think it is very ironic that the jews supported a movement like Zionism exactly after surviving the holocaust! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Yet you have no argument to present.. being insulted is not an argument! I think it is very ironic that the jews supported a movement like Zionism exactly after surviving the holocaust!You waste my reading time....the only 'argument' you present is that Jews and Zionism are the problem...with no factual support. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted October 17, 2015 Author Share Posted October 17, 2015 Yet you have no argument to present.. being insulted is not an argument! I think it is very ironic that the jews supported a movement like Zionism exactly after surviving the holocaust!Maybe because Jews needed a save place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmm 879 Posted October 17, 2015 Share Posted October 17, 2015 Maybe because Jews needed a save place?You waste my reading time....the only 'argument' you present is that Jews and Zionism are the problem...with no factual support. Great arguments you both are presenting :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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