Snow 1,582 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 What exactly do you mean by proper technique? If she is playing her own music to accompany her voice how could she demonstrate technique in that type of context anyway?the proper technique is just that, correct way to get results that are desired. A means to an end. Like you need a certain arm movement with correct finger position etc. to produce a certain sound. You know what technique means in playing an instrument surely?And it ddoesnt matter what she plays. A professional can tell her technique from playing one chord. (That might be a bit exaggarated, but you see what I mean I hope) And please understand that she is super talented musician and has nice piano skills for a pop singer, but not for classical actual piano playing. This is not ment as any kind of negative. Just realism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow 1,582 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 it's refreshing to see people being rational about her actual level of skills, classically speaking. Thanks for being honest!She inspired me to start taking piano lessons two years ago. One of the best decisions I took! No problem. Its nice to share since its my profession. :) AAnd thats really lovely to hear! She truly can inspire. Its a wonderful hobby IF not more. A lot of hard work but it pays of! ALL The support from me to your efforts! :) keep practising ;) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Katie14 4,828 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 the proper technique is just that, correct way to get results that are desired. A means to an end. Like you need a certain arm movement with correct finger position etc. to produce a certain sound. You know what technique means in playing an instrument surely?And it ddoesnt matter what she plays. A professional can tell her technique from playing one chord. (That might be a bit exaggarated, but you see what I mean I hope) And please understand that she is super talented musician and has nice piano skills for a pop singer, but not for classical actual piano playing. This is not ment as any kind of negative. Just realism.Maybe she knows the right technique but drops it when she is playing simple chords and melodies because it isn't necessary. She has been taking piano lessons for almost her whole life. She must have learned the right technique. I get that technique is necessary to be able to improvise well, sight read, and play complicated pieces, but I don't really understand how playing chords with slightly off finger position could make a difference in sound quality. Im not trying to argue with you and im sure you are right since you play piano for a living, but I really don't get it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow 1,582 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Maybe she knows the right technique but drops it when she is playing simple chords and melodies because it isn't necessary. She has been taking piano lessons for almost her whole life. She must have learned the right technique. I get that technique is necessary to be able to improvise well, sight read, and play complicated pieces, but I don't really understand how playing chords with slightly off finger position could make a difference in sound quality. Im not trying to argue with you and im sure you are right since you play piano for a living, but I really don't get it. well no, you really don't ever "drop it". You use it IF you have it. This is too complicated thing to explain here. :) Let me say that its possible to play one key with about hundred different ways, so one position of finger makes a world of difference in sound. And also please understand that playing piano is thousand times more complicated than just pressing the right key. You play with your whole body, not just fingers. IF you do want to know more, you can ask and I can try to explain :) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 well no, you really don't ever "drop it". You use it IF you have it. This is too complicated thing to explain here. :) Let me say that its possible to play one key with about hundreds different ways, so one position of finger makes a world of difference in sound. And also please understand that playing piano is thousand times more complicated than just pressing the right key. You play with your whole body, not just fingers. IF you do want to know more, you can ask and I can try to explain :)I am interested in learning more if you wouldn't mind elaborating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow 1,582 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I am interested in learning more if you wouldn't mind elaborating. erm like I said its really hard to explain in short. :) maybe it would be easiest IF you ask something? That what you want me to explain further? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 erm like I said its really hard to explain in short. :) maybe it would be easiest IF you ask something? That what you want me to explain further? I took piano lessons growing up and I was never taught key signatures, scales, or any other type of technique. I just leaned how to read notes and a little bit about dynamics and keeping proper time. My piano teacher was probably crap looking back now. Then I took a beginner piano class in college and we did have to learn scales and key signatures though we never learned proper hand or body position. Anyway, since I could already play the piano, I never really understood the importance of learning scales and key signatures. Whenever I got a new piece to learn, I would just mark all the notes that were supposed to be sharp or flat for the first few measures and that took care of the key signature issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow 1,582 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 I took piano lessons growing up and I was never taught key signatures, scales, or any other type of technique. I just leaned how to read notes and a little bit about dynamics and keeping proper time. My piano teacher was probably crap looking back now. Then I took a beginner piano class in college and we did have to learn scales and key signatures though we never learned proper hand or body position. Anyway, since I could already play the piano, I never really understood the importance of learning scales and key signatures. Whenever I got a new piece to learn, I would just mark all the notes that were supposed to be sharp or flat for the first few measures and that took care of the key signature issue. well thats a start at least. And yeah, your teacher doesnt sound very good... :D Proper technique is crucial in varying The tone and sound and obviously over ALL in your playing. The sound differs by for example how you distribute you body weight on key or chord by how you sit, place your arm, move you elbow, use your wrist, in what angle you position your finger, which PART of The finger hits The key etc. Its very very conplicated. Then you have three pedals... And you know that one hand alone can in Theory at least play in five different tones ALL at ones. :) like in a chord your top voice can sound different than The middle ones and The bass voice can be different and ALL variations of that. This is very necessary in all playing, good example could be playing some of Bach's fugues in 4 voices; you have be able to play like four different instruments with just two hands.So yes, I can hear someone's technique from just one chord or even single note and say what would be needed to correct it for whatever sound or end result is desired.Obviously there are many things you cant even do with piano IF you don't have The know-how. LikeLike octave scales in legato, double thrills/tremolos, virtuoso scales etc.Did this help at ALL? :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie14 4,828 Posted October 1, 2015 Author Share Posted October 1, 2015 well thats a start at least. And yeah, your teacher doesnt sound very good... :D Proper technique is crucial in varying The tone and sound and obviously over ALL in your playing. The sound differs by for example how you distribute you body weight on key or chord by how you sit, place your arm, move you elbow, use your wrist, in what angle you position your finger, which PART of The finger hits The key etc. Its very very conplicated. Then you have three pedals... And you know that one hand alone can in Theory at least play in five different tones ALL at ones. :) like in a chord your top voice can sound different than The middle ones and The bass voice can be different and ALL variations of that. This is very necessary in all playing, good example could be playing some of Bach's fugues in 4 voices; you have be able to play like foyr different instruments with just two hands.So yes, can hear someone's technique from just one chord a key and say what would be needed to correct iit for whatever sound or end result is desired.Did this help at ALL? :D Thank you for explaining. I didn't even know it was possible for each individual finger to play a different tone. That's pretty incredible. I think this is one of those situations where you have to know what to look for and have experience in order to hear the differences. Like If I were to bake two batches of brownies, one would have low and the other would have high quality ingredients, for a group of food critics vs my family. The food critics would easily notice and prefer the high quality brownies and my family would enjoy both and probably not even notice that there is a difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow 1,582 Posted October 1, 2015 Share Posted October 1, 2015 Thank you for explaining. I didn't even know it was possible for each individual finger to play a different tone. That's pretty incredible. I think this is one of those situations where you have to know what to look for and have experience in order to hear the differences. Like If I were to bake two batches of brownies, one would have low and the other would have high quality ingredients, for a group of food critics vs my family. The food critics would easily notice and prefer the high quality brownies and my family would enjoy both and probably not even notice that there is a difference. yes, kind of! And good IF you understood at least something, it was my pleasure. :) And indeed "amateurs" wont hear much difference in professionals, but from my experience they do notice quite alot IF played back to back. :) And I do kind of think most will hear a difference IF a professional plays The same piece after an amateur or one without proper technique. :) LLike in your Brownie examples, you would know a difference IF one Baker cant use baking soda or something like that properly and The other can. The end result is quite different. Thats more like an example of technique. And The ingredients is maybe more like a different pianos, like one played a cheap upright and The other a concert hall grand piano.But yeah, masterin an instrument to professional level takes about 15-20 years :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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