scorpion 409 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Several people here have some real questions to ask themselves about their integrity as a human being. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceGaga 7,558 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 @scorpion @DietCoke Well done you two Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 TBH I hate parties, I could live my life without them, and one of the reasons I skip them it's because of that... however I do feel like victims are also in need of discipline... It's easy to prevent that stuff from happening if you take precations. that's why is called rape like wtf 𝗟𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗚𝗮𝗴𝗮 • 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗠𝗼𝗼𝗿𝗲 • 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗶𝗲-𝗘𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗕𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗼𝗿 • 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion 409 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Its like my Theatre teacher of 4 years said....There are certain boundaries you don't cross, there are things said you can't take back. And once said they reveal your character and what you really do or don't stand for. Make no mistake , the people above who made those comments will likely never change their thinking or get it. But the conversation must continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Well I don't need you to discuss with me, I think that victims can do things themselves to prevent the situation, you seem oblivious to the fact that many teens are just walking airheads.i had to erase like 5 times what i wrote 'cuz i dont want a WP, just to know that you're really disgusting & that point of view is really retarded & people like you are the ones that let this **** happen 𝗟𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗚𝗮𝗴𝗮 • 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗠𝗼𝗼𝗿𝗲 • 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗶𝗲-𝗘𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗕𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗼𝗿 • 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion 409 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 .... but both parties including potential victims have to put in effort to prevent such atrocity from happening. It's our duty to protect ourselves...Who are you , a parent asking two children to stop fighting over a toy? We are talking about A RAPIST. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UrethraFranklin 434 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Yeah... Clearly the message isn't getting across here. If you rape someone, you are willfully forcing someone whether it is through manipulation or pure aggression to have s-x.There's no "precaution" to protect you from someone who is a f-cking sociopath. They will find a way to be rapists whether or not girls go to the bathroom with a buddy, or check their drinks every three seconds to make sure someone hasn't dropped G in it.Til it happens to you is sending a message to be supportive to victims. It's not saying you have to pick out ways they could have done better or changed something that already f-cking happened. Here's a simple a--logy:"Ow I cut my hand and it's bleeding, I need a bandaid" "Well what did I tell you about playing with knives""I wasn't playing with a knife I was cutting a sandwich and I got cut""Well why weren't you wearing cutting proof gloves?""Who the f-ck wears cutting proof gloves, I've cut 100s of sandwiches before, can you just get me a bandaid""You should have known better" Blah blah blah and goes on forevermore.The reality is, victims do enough blaming for themselves, they don't need other people chiming in when all they really need is someone to just understand them and not go on a holier than thou trip./endrant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,660 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Who are you , a parent asking two children to stop fighting over a toy? We are talking about A RAPIST. Please, don't erase the other part of my original comment and leave only one part of it. I addressed an argument on both sides and stressed the importance of how both sides have to put in effort to prevent this from happening. I also mentioned how the rapist/offender is the main party to blame as he is the source who instigated such crime from happening. I just mentioned how potential victims can also take a pre-cautious step to avoid yourself from becoming the victim, but that doesn't I mean I take all the blame away from the rapist/offender. In fact I'd like to reiterate, for the third time, the offender has to be punished certainly and should not be excused or tolerated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion 409 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Please, don't erase the other part of my original comment and leave only one part of it. I addressed an argument on both sides and stressed the importance of how both sides have to put in effort to prevent this from happening. I also mentioned how the rapist/offender is the main party to blame as he is the source who instigated such crime from happening. I just mentioned how potential victims can also take a pre-cautious step to avoid yourself from becoming the victim, but that doesn't I mean I take all the blame away from the rapist/offender. In fact I'd like to reiterate, for the third time, the offender has to be punished certainly and should not be excused or tolerated.You've missed the point, There is no blaming the victim. There are things in the world to debate, this isn't one of them. You aren't the arbiter of rapists. I will say it again, Rape is rape.Rape is rape. Rape is unexpected.Rape happens all the time anytime.Anywhere , and force against ones will is always a factor.You can't coach someone on how to avoid it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 58,660 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 You've missed the point, There is no blaming the victim. There are things in the world to debate, this isn't one of them. You aren't the arbiter of rapists. I will say it again, Rape is rape.Rape is rape. Rape is unexpected.Rape happens all the time anytime.Anywhere , and force against ones will is always a factor.You can't coach someone on how to avoid it. I never said rape can be expected and doesn't happen often. I certainly cannot guarantee or coach anyone and say "hey, if you follow my steps, you won't be the victim for sure." This was not the point of comment. I meant that you can REDUCE but not eliminate the possibility of you getting raped, by not going to certain places like nightclubs or parties, avoid people whom you don't know well or whom you are suspicious of.Before you disregard half of my comment again, please take a look at the underline part I wrote. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion 409 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I never said rape can be expected and doesn't happen often. I certainly cannot guarantee or coach anyone and say "hey, if you follow my steps, you won't be the victim for sure." This was not the point of comment. I meant that you can REDUCE but not eliminate the possibility of you getting raped, by not going to certain places like nightclubs or parties, avoid people whom you don't know well or whom you are suspicious of.Before you disregard half of my comment again, please take a look at the underline part I wrote.No one should EVER have to live their life in fear of not going places. Why not put a chastity belt on and throw away the key? Hide in the closet. Your "argument" is baseless and ridiculous. People make mistakes, some people are incredibly cautious. Would you tell a rape victim fo their face " Now now, you know better..... if only you would have just..." Thats disgusting. By the way I didnt disregard half your comment ...... Look at what you are actually saying. Its dangerous to think this way, and its not ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I've gone through enough in my life of "you should have taken better care or caution". Maybe the other person shouldn't have done it at all? 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I meant that you can REDUCE but not eliminate the possibility of you getting raped, by not going to certain places like nightclubs or parties, avoid people whom you don't know well or whom you are suspicious of.Before you disregard half of my comment again, please take a look at the underline part I wrote.Just so you know, four fifths of all rapes are committed by someone known to the victim. The majority of rape victims ARE avoiding people they don't know, or avoiding strangers. And what exactly does someone "suspicious" look like? So, you are saying that people should never go to parties or nightclubs? They should do what? Stay home in a locked house with a foolproof safe room...and never go out in the world, date or have anyone over? Because that is really the only way to avoid getting raped. What a great concept...people should stay inside their houses and never date or go out with friends, because there are people out in the world that behave like animals. Here's an idea....people should be able to go out with friends to parties and events, go for a walk or a run, go shopping, go to public restrooms, and be safe in their own homes!Rapist rape. The victims are not the problem. The problem is that rapists are sick individuals who are hurting others by forcing themselves on them. Stop blaming the victims! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorpion 409 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Just so you know, four fifths of all rapes are committed by someone known to the victim. The majority of rape victims ARE avoiding people they don't know, or avoiding strangers. And what exactly does someone "suspicious" look like? So, you are saying that people should never go to parties or nightclubs? They should do what? Stay home in a locked house with a foolproof safe room...and never go out in the world, date or have anyone over? Because that is really the only way to avoid getting raped. What a great concept...people should stay inside their houses and never date or go out with friends, because there are people out in the world that behave like animals. Here's an idea....people should be able to go out with friends to parties and events, go for a walk or a run, go shopping, go to public restrooms, and be safe in their own homes!Rapist rape. The victims are not the problem. The problem is that rapists are sick individuals who are hurting others by forcing themselves on them. Stop blaming the victims! YES . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Victim blaming on GGD, what else is new? A dang shame 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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