Voltaire 4,531 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Well, the first part of this is not true. Bernie in fact has seen his support drop 3 percentage points from this time last month. Using the RCP average you sourced, we can see that Bernie's numbers peaked at 26.3% last month and have since dropped to ~23%. As we can also see on that chart, the reason Clinton's numbers have dropped were because speculation that Biden might enter the race has increased and we have seen Biden's numbers increase over the past month, drawing support from both Clinton and Sanders (mostly Clinton though). The reason the gap between Clinton and Sanders has narrowed is not because Sanders is rising, but rather that Biden is pulling support from Clinton.However, all indications are that Biden will not run and his actions have said as much. In the most recent poll, if Biden were not included then Clinton's lead against Sanders turns from +18% to +29%.You're right about these numbers. I don't think you're right about the implication of them, nor the trends being experienced on the ground.I suppose only time will tell which way the water will flow, but its easier to gain a voter who hadn't heard of you till now than it is to re-gain one that you've lost to someone else. Bernie is still unknown by a large percentage of people that are specifically within his likely support base and operating at percentage points that are growing, overall, despite there not having been a debate. His voting records are incredible. His support for those that have been thirsty for support is decades longer than anyone else, and he's not afraid to stand for what he believes in no matter the audience or focus group. People like a leader that leads, and unfortunately Hillary seems to follow behind the issues- trying to make sure she does and says the right things to pander to whomever she thinks she needs to. The greatest Presidents we've had were not people who did that. They were people who upset the status quo of their day and fought for people and issues. Candy is dandy but liquor is quicker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,130 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 A Democrat WILL win. It's almost guaranteed. Have you seen the Republican candidates? i can do with Hilary... i dont think shes always trust worthy (seems to blow out BS sometimes) but ehr style is more balanced to me. Shes not an extreme lefty out to be anti economy with everything (1 ex: supports keystone) But Bernie i dunno Id prefer Hilary to Trump actually just cause i think hes an Ass but, Carlie Fiorina is my #1 choice Carson is also a very nice guy but i fear hes too right-winged even for me (1ex: supports completely flat tax, i think a slight gap is fine and beneficial) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,285 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Sanders won't win but if he did... the senate and the house would be against him no matter which party controls them. Nothing would get done in that government, it would be one of the worst situations the country has ever faced. Maybe if either party could ever get behind his policies but, neither party would back the majority of them.Anyways, there is two options for this next election.1. Hillary wins the democratic nomination, someone wins the Republican nomination. Bernie splits the democratic vote and the Republicans win.2. Bernie throws support for Hillary and she wins.And history repeats itself y'all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanC 938 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 George Bush. it's a different time and atmosphere... All of the republicans are anti gay and anti women and racists... They won't win... American is far too progressive to vote for a candidate like a republican with no liberal social values... Everyone knows someone gay now... Running on that platform is a guaranteed loss... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,130 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 it's a different time and atmosphere... All of the republicans are anti gay and anti women and racists... They won't win... American is far too progressive to vote for a candidate like a republican with no liberal social values... Everyone knows someone gay now... Running on that platform is a guaranteed loss... lefties have such an exxagerated view of republicans not every candidate is donal trump. They are not all anti women or anti gay jezz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 lefties have such an exxagerated view of republicans not every candidate is donal trump. They are not all anti women or anti gay jezz It really isn't worth arguing with people who have a one sided view of Republicans. They'll always believe all conservatives hate gays, women, immigrants, and everything that doesn't revolve around God. Believe me, it gets annoying. 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaprincess 23 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 interesting, cant say im too surprised tho. not that excited about her but ill vote for her when it comes down to it, just so a republican won't win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaprincess 23 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 lefties have such an exxagerated view of republicans not every candidate is donal trump. They are not all anti women or anti gay jezz i dont think all republicans are the same. but trump isnt exactly helping you guys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,130 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 i dont think all republicans are the same. but trump isnt exactly helping you guys. It really isn't worth arguing with people who have a one sided view of Republicans. They'll always believe all conservatives hate gays, women, immigrants, and everything that doesn't revolve around God. Believe me, it gets annoying. yeah... Which is why i hear some lefties automatically shoot down republicans with so little knowledge and super close mindedness. @ajhuffman219 i also have heard "dont know him/her but hes republican, thats all i need to know" that diesnt help u guys either. My perception if many lefties is they sound like brainless atomatons repeating the same cliches over and over society says with simmilar wording and often rebuke anything even remotely contrqdictary to it even if they know little about it... sounds like ppl who easily fall to propaganda republicans too are guilty of this but on this front i find lefties worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJH219 4,448 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 yeah... Which is why i hear some lefties automatically shoot down republicans with so little knowledge and super close mindedness. @ajhuffman219 i also have heard "dont know him/her but hes republican, thats all i need to know" that diesnt help u guys either. My perception if many lefties is they sound like brainless atomatons repeating the same cliches over and over society says with simmilar wording and often rebuke anything even remotely contrqdictary to it even if they know little about it... sounds like ppl who easily fall to propaganda republicans too are guilty of this but on this front i find lefties worse I agree 100% 'All our dreams can come true IF we have the courage to pursue them'-Walt Disney Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,130 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I agree 100%of course im generalizing. Not every individual fits that category... and there are things i prefer democrats over the republicans in... But society needs to be balanced and look at pros and cons of each Government because no Government will be the superior party in ALL aspects I happen to lean more towards Republicans over-all especially because of economy but that doesnt mean i cant admit I prefer democrats on some aspects additionally, its not a rule set in stone. If i didnt have Carly Fiorina or a couple other candidates i like and all republicans were like Donald Trump lets say, id take Hilary Clinton over any idiot like Trump Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gianni Versace 2,987 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 VOTE FOR BERNIE FFFFFFFFS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanC 938 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 sorry but which candidate currently in the running that's pro marriage equality, pro planned parenthood? And had a chance of winning over Trump who's currently leading your party?yeah I thought so... Educate yourself before generalizing "lefties"... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 I want Bernie to win, but I also want to see Hillary go far. This is so stressing, and I'm not even American. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted September 23, 2015 Share Posted September 23, 2015 Hillary Clinton will testify before the House Select Committee on Benghazi around Oct. 22. Once Republicans realize that Trey Gowdy + co. literally found nothing on Benghazi to use against Mrs. Clinton, they'll have nothing else to go with. I don't think anything significant will come out of the email scandal -besides what we already know, so once all of this blows over I expect Clinton's poll numbers to rise steadily. ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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