Migrants located in Croatia in a hotel protesting

[loribb 338]

Our government said basically the same thing tho?

"Mi ćemo prije svega imati na umu interese i sigurnost Hrvatske, ali isto tako nećemo zaboraviti na to da smo ljudi" – premijer Milanović u Saboru.

https://www.facebook.com/wwwvladahr/photos/a.113201105465628.13284.108807632571642/846196868832711/?type=1

Throwing sh*t out of the hotel was completely unnecessary tho. Also, they've been annoyed with the train that was supposed to take them to some place (idk which one) for being late and they wanted to walk all the way to Zagreb? Like b---h please, trains are literally ALWAYS late here. I'd feel sorry for them, but the migrants who do stuff like this make me dislike them so much.

The wife of a policeman: Did you inform Cro public about a knife attack on croatian policemen in Tovarnik? No. 30 migrants on 5 policemen? They managed to save themselves by holding the door of a police van, which is now damaged. Why are you silent about it and the savagery of those on Croatian ground?

https://www.facebook.com/wwwvladahr/posts/846488752136856

Disgusting.

U Osijeku je cijeli odjel hitnoga prijma u bolnici zakrčen imigrantima (a tek ih je ovdje blizu 1000) i oni su trenutačno preferirani, jer "neće ostati dugo", pozvani su liječnici (opće prakse, obiteljske medicine) i studenti 6. godine medicine, čak i liječnici iz mirovina, da idu liječiti i zbrinjavati izbjeglice, bez honorara i o svoj trošak. Njih treba cijepiti bla bla čitala sam obavijest koju su dobili liječnici i kako se moraju ponašati, a znamo da nema cjepiva jer nam ne radi imunološki. Osim toga 90% izbjeglica su muškarci koje mogu liječiti samo muški liječnici, a da ne kažem da odbacuju hranu, nezahvalni su, a na televiziji se pokazuje samo ono što određena gospoda žele da vidimo, obvezno prikažu uplakane žene i djecu i nekog mladića od 18,19 godina koji samo želi studirati u Europi. U slučaju da se dogodi ikakav rat, ne daj Bože, moju će braću zvati jer im je to dužnost, a neki samo bježe...

 

Vidim da se već objavljuje na hrvatskome pa zašto ne bih i ja!

In my hometown Osijek, whole emergency department is overcrowded with immigrants (and the situation is already out of control and it has just started...) and they are preferred over our domestic citizens since they're "not staying for long". All doctor's of primary care and family medicine are called to help in immigrant camps (even students of medicine and even retired ones), without being paid and at their own expense. The need vaccines, medicines etc., but Croatia doesn't even have enough of those for it's own citizens... Besides, 90% of those refugees are men, and the only ones who can take of them as doctors are men. Moreover, they're aggressive, they throw the food we give them... But on tv there's no sign of it. The media is showing children and sad women instead. You can often see some 18,19 yo guy talking about his wishes of continuing education (?). BUT, in case war breaks out, my brothers and friends would be called to deffend their country, instead of classy running away to find better life...

 

Sorry for my bad english, but I just wanted to share how it looks from a point of view of person who knows the whole situation from personal view. I'm not xenophobe, but if they wanted luxury, why didn't they run to Dubai, it's much nearer?

[Hurem 17,801]

Croatia is in deep **** for decades and the last thing we needed were refugees. Hope they leave our country asap.

[Benji 20,113]

Croatia is in deep **** for decades and the last thing we needed were refugees. Hope they leave our country asap.

Careful, you'll get called some names for noticing the fact your country would struggle housing thousands and thousands of refugees

[Qualle1 1,385]

http://www.telegram.hr/politika-kriminal/izbjeglice-u-hotelu-porin-prosvjeduju-jer-ne-zele-ostati-u-hrvatskoj-stigla-i-interventna-policija/

http://m.dnevnik.hr/clanak/vijesti/hrvatska/imigranti-smjesteni-u-zagrebacki-hotel-porin-zapoceli-su-prosvjed---408913.html

ungrateful sh*ts  they put them in a HOTEL so they don't have to be out on the streets and they act like that? f*cking disgusting

Where can I see, that they are throwing things out of the windows or from the balcony?

[Mr Ricky 9,089]

Ungrateful ****s? Really? Before I would post such an extreme accusation, I would make sure to understand the situation / context properly. I can't understand what is written on both of these Hungarian websited - can you? And what I see in the video are refugees, who are shouting and protesting for "freedom" - without hurting or destroying anything...

It's not just in Hungary or Croatia. In Germany, Holland and Belgium we offer them space. Yet they want their OWN fcking house ( LOL ) while people in Holland are on the waitinglist for having their own place. They are expecting SO much, yet they don't appriciate anything they get. Throwing away food, beverages they have been offered. Nothing is appriciated. 

[Hurem 17,801]

Careful, you'll get called some names for noticing the fact your country would struggle housing thousands and thousands of refugees

Oh, I know, I know. I can't at people defending refugees no matter what. I know in what situation my country is and thousands of people are barely having anything to eat. We were ready to take 1,500 refugees, not 10,000.

Poor Slovenia if they go there, which they will unless they close the borders.

[Qualle1 1,385]

 

U Osijeku je cijeli odjel hitnoga prijma u bolnici zakrčen imigrantima (a tek ih je ovdje blizu 1000) i oni su trenutačno preferirani, jer "neće ostati dugo", pozvani su liječnici (opće prakse, obiteljske medicine) i studenti 6. godine medicine, čak i liječnici iz mirovina, da idu liječiti i zbrinjavati izbjeglice, bez honorara i o svoj trošak. Njih treba cijepiti bla bla čitala sam obavijest koju su dobili liječnici i kako se moraju ponašati, a znamo da nema cjepiva jer nam ne radi imunološki. Osim toga 90% izbjeglica su muškarci koje mogu liječiti samo muški liječnici, a da ne kažem da odbacuju hranu, nezahvalni su, a na televiziji se pokazuje samo ono što određena gospoda žele da vidimo, obvezno prikažu uplakane žene i djecu i nekog mladića od 18,19 godina koji samo želi studirati u Europi. U slučaju da se dogodi ikakav rat, ne daj Bože, moju će braću zvati jer im je to dužnost, a neki samo bježe...

 

Vidim da se već objavljuje na hrvatskome pa zašto ne bih i ja!

In my hometown Osijek, whole emergency department is overcrowded with immigrants (and the situation is already out of control and it has just started...) and they are preferred over our domestic citizens since they're "not staying for long". All doctor's of primary care and family medicine are called to help in immigrant camps (even students of medicine and even retired ones), without being paid and at their own expense. The need vaccines, medicines etc., but Croatia doesn't even have enough of those for it's own citizens... Besides, 90% of those refugees are men, and the only ones who can take of them as doctors are men. Moreover, they're aggressive, they throw the food we give them... But on tv there's no sign of it. The media is showing children and sad women instead. You can often see some 18,19 yo guy talking about his wishes of continuing education (?). BUT, in case war breaks out, my brothers and friends would be called to deffend their country, instead of classy running away to find better life...

 

Sorry for my bad english, but I just wanted to share how it looks from a point of view of person who knows the whole situation from personal view. I'm not xenophobe, but if they wanted luxury, why didn't they run to Dubai, it's much nearer?

Your English is great. No reason to be ashamed!

I would like to know more about the "they throw the food we give them".

Could you please elaborate?

Thank you!

PS: As you might already now, also we here in Germany are virtually in a "state of emergency" - and we would be completely lost without the tens of thousands volunteers, especially doctors. The male refugees get medical treatment by male and female doctors - and they are not allowed to chose as far as I am informed. From what I read and saw, these people are extremely grateful for our kindness, help and support.

[Qualle1 1,385]

It's not just in Hungary or Croatia. In Germany, Holland and Belgium we offer them space. Yet they want their OWN fcking house ( LOL ) while people in Holland are on the waitinglist for having their own place. They are expecting SO much, yet they don't appriciate anything they get. Throwing away food, beverages they have been offered. Nothing is appriciated. 

I am German and I live in Germany, so do yourself a favour and don't try to teach me about the situation in "Germany". Yes, some of the refugees seem to think that our developed nations are like the "land of milk and honey" - but these problems are more often to find with "economic refugees" from the Balkan and Eastern Europe, who should all be sent back as soon as possible - if there is no real reason to get asyl in Germany.

And like I said before: I have not heard, read or seen refugees throwing with refusal fresh meals away - and don't believe that until I get some proof.

[Paper Gangsta 6,693]

 

Some of them lost patience and are yelling "freedom", so they want to leave? 

Why won't they let them leave, as they said? Do they have any translator?  

Its not like Croatia is keeping them on purpose lol. Its not like Croatia is benefiting from them so they are purposely not letting them leave. Slovenia still didn't allowed them to enter. Yelling and acting ungrateful like that won't make any better. If they were able they would transport them to Slovenia long time ago considering there is way more people arriving than Croatia can take at the moment

[lego 44,165]

 

U Osijeku je cijeli odjel hitnoga prijma u bolnici zakrčen imigrantima (a tek ih je ovdje blizu 1000) i oni su trenutačno preferirani, jer "neće ostati dugo", pozvani su liječnici (opće prakse, obiteljske medicine) i studenti 6. godine medicine, čak i liječnici iz mirovina, da idu liječiti i zbrinjavati izbjeglice, bez honorara i o svoj trošak. Njih treba cijepiti bla bla čitala sam obavijest koju su dobili liječnici i kako se moraju ponašati, a znamo da nema cjepiva jer nam ne radi imunološki. Osim toga 90% izbjeglica su muškarci koje mogu liječiti samo muški liječnici, a da ne kažem da odbacuju hranu, nezahvalni su, a na televiziji se pokazuje samo ono što određena gospoda žele da vidimo, obvezno prikažu uplakane žene i djecu i nekog mladića od 18,19 godina koji samo želi studirati u Europi. U slučaju da se dogodi ikakav rat, ne daj Bože, moju će braću zvati jer im je to dužnost, a neki samo bježe...

 

Vidim da se već objavljuje na hrvatskome pa zašto ne bih i ja!

In my hometown Osijek, whole emergency department is overcrowded with immigrants (and the situation is already out of control and it has just started...) and they are preferred over our domestic citizens since they're "not staying for long". All doctor's of primary care and family medicine are called to help in immigrant camps (even students of medicine and even retired ones), without being paid and at their own expense. The need vaccines, medicines etc., but Croatia doesn't even have enough of those for it's own citizens... Besides, 90% of those refugees are men, and the only ones who can take of them as doctors are men. Moreover, they're aggressive, they throw the food we give them... But on tv there's no sign of it. The media is showing children and sad women instead. You can often see some 18,19 yo guy talking about his wishes of continuing education (?). BUT, in case war breaks out, my brothers and friends would be called to deffend their country, instead of classy running away to find better life...

 

Sorry for my bad english, but I just wanted to share how it looks from a point of view of person who knows the whole situation from personal view. I'm not xenophobe, but if they wanted luxury, why didn't they run to Dubai, it's much nearer?

 

Oh, I know, I know. I can't at people defending refugees no matter what. I know in what situation my country is and thousands of people are barely having anything to eat. We were ready to take 1,500 refugees, not 10,000.

Poor Slovenia if they go there, which they will unless they close the borders.

This just shows that you have no knowledge of what is going on in Syria.

It's disgusting that you call them cowards, not every war is as clear as catholic croats vs. orthodox serbs vs. bosnian muslims.

If your own Croatian government starts bombing civilians and you have 10 different paramilitary groups, no one would mobilize your brothers, you would all try to run away.

Your own countrymates were refugees once and Western Europe is full of ECONOMIC IMMIGRANTS from Balkan.

They should all be sent back if you think searching for better life is being ungrateful and looking for luxury. 

It's funny how your own government is trying to do the right thing, while citizens are full with xenophobia. 

[lego 44,165]

Its not like Croatia is keeping them on purpose lol. Its not like Croatia is benefiting from them so they are purposely not letting them leave. Slovenia still didn't allowed them to enter. Yelling and acting ungrateful like that won't make any better. If they were able they would transport them to Slovenia long time ago considering there is way more people arriving than Croatia can take at the moment

Serbs had similar situation and they were able to explain to them what is going on and things didn't escalate. They were just recently beaten and pepper sprayed on Hungarian border, they were sending them to refugee camps by force days before that, so they most likely think the Croats would do the same, that's why they yell "freedom". 

They don't want to stay in country that doesn't want them anyway.

[Qualle1 1,385]

Oh, I know, I know. I can't at people defending refugees no matter what. I know in what situation my country is and thousands of people are barely having anything to eat. We were ready to take 1,500 refugees, not 10,000.

Poor Slovenia if they go there, which they will unless they close the borders.

[Paper Gangsta 6,693]

Serbs had similar situation and they were able to explain to them what is going on and things didn't escalate. They were just recently beaten and pepper sprayed on Hungarian border, they were sending them to refugee camps by force days before that, so they most likely think the Croats would do the same, that's why they yell "freedom". 

They don't want to stay in country that doesn't want them anyway.

They did explain. Its not missunderstanding they just want to use force to get what they want lol. 

And there were cases of ungrateful refugees in Serbia aswell.

Show me one example of Croatian police/people treating them badly lol? They did as much possible to make everything as much organized as possible and these are throwing stuff in return.

[SlaeUrAnus 16,111]

It's not just in Hungary or Croatia. In Germany, Holland and Belgium we offer them space. Yet they want their OWN fcking house ( LOL ) while people in Holland are on the waitinglist for having their own place. They are expecting SO much, yet they don't appriciate anything they get. Throwing away food, beverages they have been offered. Nothing is appriciated. 

Me and my partner are on the housing list in the United Kingdom and have been on for nearly a year already :/ So we are instead saving up for a deposit on a mortgage.

I am all for letting these poor souls in, but economic wise, what can we do and how can we adapt to it?

[loribb 338]

Your English is great. No reason to be ashamed!

I would like to know more about the "they throw the food we give them".

Could you please elaborate?

Thank you!

PS: As you might already now, also we here in Germany are virtually in a "state of emergency" - and we would be completely lost without the tens of thousands volunteers, especially doctors. The male refugees get medical treatment by male and female doctors - and they are not allowed to chose as far as I am informed. From what I read and saw, these people are extremely grateful for our kindness, help and support.

Thank you, sometimes I just can't find right words to express what I want to say :)

They are 99% Muslim and their religion forbids them eating pork, what you probably know, and it is totally ok, we must be tolerrant and respect different culture. But they are refusing the food Red Cross gives them because they want proof it's not pork. They also don't want to stay here, Croatia is just a "corridor" from east to west, but before they carry on, our government kindly wanted to provide them some kind of minnimal health insurance (including vaccination, medicines, disinsection etc.) However, it makes them feel "dirty" so they strike by refusing to take any kind of food or they just take it and then throw it away. Which is very, very disgusting, since Croatia is a country with big problems and still hasn't recovered from war, yet kindly offers help.

 

I don't want to go into politics and history, but Germany is a far more advanced and bigger country than Croatia. Whole Berlin has more inhabitants and doctors than we have in whole country and healthcare system is organized better. Allowing them to choose between a male or a female volunteer because of their religious beliefs shows how open for cooperation we are here. Still, they don't seem to respect it.