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Popmatters: 1989 very similar to Thriller


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Any time someone starts selling a lot, they're "the new MJ/Madonna/Beatles/Elvis." It's clickbait and it's disrespectful to those artists that spent years creating a legacy that is known throughout the world. Remember when Katy Perry was the female MJ? You laugh at her now, but you all were crapping your pants during the PRISM era because Roar and Dark Horse were dominating. Katy has nine #1 singles in total. Everyone likes to pretend Katy was never a force because they're still bitter she stole Gaga's thunder with Roar, but she was selling. And when she was selling, people gave her ridiculous titles like "the female MJ" or "the queen of pop." It was stupid then and it's stupid now.

1989 is a nice album. I like it. But what has it changed? Are artists rushing to imitate how it sounds? Her lyrics? Her marketing, maybe? Her videos? Who is 1989 influencing. What is it changing. These are the questions you need to ask to determine if an album is "the modern Thriller." Michael Jackson changed the game. Has Taylor Swift changed the game? Because you can sell a lot, but it takes something much deeper than that to be remembered. If you have artists 20 years from now saying "1989 changed the way I look at music," then put it up in the hall of fame and let it live in the canon with Sgt. Pepper and Thriller. Otherwise, it can sit next to Teenage Dream, another blockbuster album that changed nothing.

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Because it's true.  

I cannot wait to sit back and watch EVERYONE on this forum rip Katy apart when her new era starts and you have to be on the defense 99% of the time defending her. 

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There is no one Thriller of this generation. It's sort of divided:

Adele's 21 has the incredible album sales (in this day and age, at least) and wide marketability and acclaim.

Teenage Dream has the hit singles.

There is yet to be an album in recent years with the amount of cultural impact or consistently iconic/influential videos that Thriller had. Taylor is having a highly spectacular era, but let's be serious here. Sonically, 1989 is neither unique or nothing new. Maybe for Taylor, but not for pop music.

And Born This Way? Really? That sold 1/4 of what Adele's 21 did, none of the music videos are iconic or influential, it has less hit singles (by charging position) than 1989 (although Born This Way by itself was bigger than any one Taylor single this era, and TEOG was pretty massive and influential among singing competitions), and it didn't impact culture that much except for LGBT folk. It was an incredible album and arguably one of the best of the 21st century, but no.

If you push The Fame and The Fame Monster together as one album, you're closer to Thriller. TFM's singles alone could not sustain the chart success Thriller's singles did despite being extremely popular, but Gaga's first two eras were highly influential and held some very iconic videos. The sales of the two were also immense, particularly when combined.

Seriously. 1989 couldn't even achieve the success Teenage Dream had single-wise. It's nowhere near the best selling album of recent years. Shake It Off's video was laughable and good for a few GIF's, Blank Space was great. Style's video was forgettable and the song didn't hit the top five, Bad Blood was successful and its video was impressive, but the help she enlisted for it was unnecessary. Wildest Dreams will have little cultural impact beyond its initial controversy.

 

@ Born This Way having no iconic video? Have you been dranking fool? Marry The Night, Judas, Born This Way, Edge Of Glory Says hello. All iconic in its own way! & The Album has impacted the culture today because this album is still being discussed to this day.

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@ Born This Way having no iconic video? Have you been dranking fool? Marry The Night, Judas, Born This Way, Edge Of Glory Says hello. All iconic in its own way! & The Album has impacted the culture today because this album is still being discussed to this day.

 

...None of those are iconic. They haven't influenced much of anything video-wise. In what world is Marry The Night iconic? Born This Way maybe, but that was simply a continuation of her oddity to the public. Her actions during that era were more iconic than the videos.

Just because it's being discussed to this day does not mean it has impacted culture significantly.

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This comparison is a complete joke. Thriller's impact was light years away from what 1989 is doing now. Adele's 21 is the closest thing in the last decade, but even that isn't close.

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Whispering

I cannot wait to sit back and watch EVERYONE on this forum rip Katy apart when her new era starts and you have to be on the defense 99% of the time defending her. 

Yep...and the exact people doing this now will whine like little babies in all the Katy threads. "Whhhhyyyy is everyone sooooo mean here?" Then we will get the off topic Gaga shade, that for some reason is okay in those threads. 

Katy's H&M campaign and whatever Christmas music she is going to release is just around the corner. What goes around, comes back around! :yes:

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I don't know why Michael Jackson is such a standard. Because he sold a lot of records? Who cares. I'd rather listen to Taylor forever and ever than to listen to one of his songs :wtf: She's so much better she's on another level entirely.

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Cody Draco

The delusional Swiftie stench in this thread is unbearable.

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Taylor will never have the impact Michael Jackson had and that's perfectly fine.

None of my faves will, in fact nobody will.

He came along at the right time with the right talent.

The digital world is too fast paced and the music industry is too quick to switch trends these days for one person to have that kind of power and impact.

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