venusian 4,686 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Disgusting that a rapist like that can sue the victim. This is why we need feminism in 2015. "rapist" lmao take your "feminism" elsewhere WELCOME TO THE TRAGIC KINGDOM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffSwift 314 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Everyone here is so quick to judge because it's Taylor Swift, but if you were touched inappropriately in what is supposed to be a professional setting, I think you'd see a problem with it. But whatever, you do you, I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,890 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 The guy from the radio station who grabbed Taylor is the one suing. Taylor just reported the incident. The guy was then fired by his employer. Now, he is suing Taylor. Taylor saw a problem with the incident, so she reported it to the appropriate people. "A statement from Swift’s publicist on Saturday says Mueller’s employer was given evidence after the incident and made its own decision on his job status."I know, I'm referring to the fact that her security guy was the one who made the complaint about him, not Taylor herself. Now, obviously, there's many reasons why assault victims don't speak out but Taylor seems to be the type that would stand up for herself, considering she's really open about making songs about exes who have done her wrong along, with anyone who she takes the slightest dislike to. Plus, she's Taylor Swift, so she'd be really likely to win a court battle if she sued. So, why didn't she personally make the claim if he really did do it? It was like her security took matters into their own hands by complaining. Did they even ask her first if she was ok with pressing charges? I'm sure Taylor would rather make a complaint herself, instead of someone else doing it on her behalf, so why doesn't it mention anything about her filing a claim?I'm just talking about the situation if the accused is telling the truth. I'm wondering why he took 2 years to tell his story and why he didn't protest innocence at the time. That kind of thing generally points to someone being guilty as sin, but it's still weird. It's highly likely he's just doing this for attention now Taylor's on top, which is definitely the sign of a guilty party. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgusPop 4,141 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Good Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I know, I'm referring to the fact that her security guy was the one who made the complaint about him, not Taylor herself. Now, obviously, there's many reasons why assault victims don't speak out but Taylor seems to be the type that would stand up for herself, considering she's really open about making songs about exes who have done her wrong along, with anyone who she takes the slightest dislike to. Plus, she's Taylor Swift, so she'd be really likely to win a court battle if she sued. So, why didn't she personally make the claim if he really did do it? It was like her security took matters into their own hands by complaining. Did they even ask her first if she was ok with pressing charges? I'm sure Taylor would rather make a complaint herself, instead of someone else doing it on her behalf, so why doesn't it mention anything about her filing a claim?I'm just talking about the situation if the accused is telling the truth. I'm wondering why he took 2 years to tell his story and why he didn't protest innocence at the time. That kind of thing generally points to someone being guilty as sin, but it's still weird. It's highly likely he's just doing this for attention now Taylor's on top, which is definitely the sign of a guilty party. No one pressed charges or sued in this situation. I guess the security guard was the one to actually see it and therefore reported it to his employer. Then, it was up to the employer, as to what they wanted to do with the situation. Like you, I'm not sure about why this guy decided to wait two years to sue. Who knows what goes through people's minds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 I highly doubt the security gurard would contact the employer without express command from Taylor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwontell 7,312 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Ok, now why would she lie about something like that? It doesn't make sense...If it turned out it didn't happen and the truth came out, it would be devastating for image...someone like Taylor, who takes meticulous care of her image, would never go for such a dumb move...I find it really, really hard to believe this guy... ATTENTION: (bad) jokes and sarcasm are still a thing, so don't take everything I say literally. Thank you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleachella 2,932 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Maybe same reason gaga waited 10 years. You're not ACTUALLY comparing Gaga, who was raped at the age of 19 by someone she trusted, to this DJ who allegedly touched Taylor inappropriately...? I'm DONE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,265 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I know, I'm referring to the fact that her security guy was the one who made the complaint about him, not Taylor herself. Now, obviously, there's many reasons why assault victims don't speak out but Taylor seems to be the type that would stand up for herself, considering she's really open about making songs about exes who have done her wrong along, with anyone who she takes the slightest dislike to. Plus, she's Taylor Swift, so she'd be really likely to win a court battle if she sued. So, why didn't she personally make the claim if he really did do it? It was like her security took matters into their own hands by complaining. Did they even ask her first if she was ok with pressing charges? I'm sure Taylor would rather make a complaint herself, instead of someone else doing it on her behalf, so why doesn't it mention anything about her filing a claim?I'm just talking about the situation if the accused is telling the truth. I'm wondering why he took 2 years to tell his story and why he didn't protest innocence at the time. That kind of thing generally points to someone being guilty as sin, but it's still weird. It's highly likely he's just doing this for attention now Taylor's on top, which is definitely the sign of a guilty party. First of all, it's their job to protect her which includes to get retribution for those who do inappropriate things. Taylor would likely not take the time to get some guy fired for grabbing her ass, but if her security team does, why would she object? And why would she want to get personally involved if she doesn't have too? The only reason for her to get involved is to vouch for the guy, nothing else.Secondly, this post reeks of "why didn't they come forward sooner? obviously they are lying." Like no, that's not how anything in life works, and definitely not things of a s-xual nature. It's illogical to say that if someone doesn't instantly react to something, including being fired, including being harassed, including literally anything, then it must not have happened. The time frame literally doesn't matter or say anything about the factual events. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,265 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 He's innocent until proven guilty This isn't the court of law honey boo boo child, they can fire him if they want to.And... since he is suing Taylor, she is innocent until proven guilty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighwayGuy 1,498 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 This isn't the court of law honey boo boo child, they can fire him if they want to.And... since he is suing Taylor, she is innocent until proven guilty. it's the rule of everything, he's innocent until proven guilty so he shouldn't be fired They are both jnnocent until proven otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,890 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 First of all, it's their job to protect her which includes to get retribution for those who do inappropriate things. Taylor would likely not take the time to get some guy fired for grabbing her ass, but if her security team does, why would she object? And why would she want to get personally involved if she doesn't have too? The only reason for her to get involved is to vouch for the guy, nothing else.Secondly, this post reeks of "why didn't they come forward sooner? obviously they are lying." Like no, that's not how anything in life works, and definitely not things of a s-xual nature. It's illogical to say that if someone doesn't instantly react to something, including being fired, including being harassed, including literally anything, then it must not have happened. The time frame literally doesn't matter or say anything about the factual events.It's just odd if security didn't ask her first and is doing all this on her behalf. Taylor likes to be in charge and I'm sure she would put herself forward as the leader of her case against him if she supported the claim. Of course she'd want to get personally involved - she's the victim, so her involvement could help the case tremendously if she testifies. But don't you think it's weird that he waited so long to protest his innocence? That's very different from not reporting a crime. If someone accuses you of something you didn't do, you protest immediately, right? You certainly wouldn't wait 2 years, especially if it had a negative effect on your life, like getitng fired. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerous Man 9,245 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 I feel sorry for him. The Lord never lost. Poor him. "A little less conversation and a little more touch my body." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GloZell Green 11,723 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 Maybe same reason gaga waited 10 years. Are you kidding me You can't possibly compare these two different cases. It's like comparing Gaga to K... Oh wait Lady Gaga | Shakira Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,265 Posted September 16, 2015 Share Posted September 16, 2015 It's just odd if security didn't ask her first and is doing all this on her behalf. Taylor likes to be in charge and I'm sure she would put herself forward as the leader of her case against him if she supported the claim. Of course she'd want to get personally involved - she's the victim, so her involvement could help the case tremendously if she testifies. But don't you think it's weird that he waited so long to protest his innocence? That's very different from not reporting a crime. If someone accuses you of something you didn't do, you protest immediately, right? You certainly wouldn't wait 2 years, especially if it had a negative effect on your life, like getitng fired. Taylor Swift is a multimillionaire.You have to have a lawyer who wants to take that on, you have to really believe you can win (or at least get her to settle to avoid bad publicity), and you have to risk losing all of your money. There are many reasons to wait a very short two years before suing someone. I'm not saying I believe this guy, just that these assumptions are in reality quite unrealistic.And there was no case against him. He was fired from his job. The legal system never got involved. Of course she will defend her innocence if she has too. But the original case would require her to go out of her way to get him fired for....well, no reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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