ARTPOP is an experimental songwriting and vocal album

[Mast 980]

I guess you can't read . Paying tribute is not what is experimental, is the way she sings and expresses it to do so.

Emulating people's voices is not experimental either. Even when keeping your own tone. It's impossible to completely emulate someone, you will always have a hint of your own voice. Sorry, but AP s just not experimental. The songwriting, although different, is still the same incoherent and simple style that Gaga has. I love her but let's not praise her for things that aren't there.

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

Till Death Do Us Part is about her first husband who raped her, tied her to a chair and hit her with a baseball bat. 

Yeah but the song is not about rape. 

[Jjang 2,262]

Yeah but the song is not about rape. 

It's literally (quoting her) about the incident of s-xual abuse and violence. If anything, that song could be a--lyzed to be about abuse from a first glance, unlike Swine. Enigma's point was that dark themes and personal experiences as such are not explored in the mainstream scene. When clearly, they were explored decades ago already.

[crisTEAne 21,059]

I've heard of experimental literature (such as Gertrude Stein), but literature and lyrics to a song have different goals and are considered different kinds of art*. Also, lyrics to a pop song don't have any effect on the genre of pop the song is.

*Lyrics are seen as an extension of music. I can understand how it can be interpreted as literature because it is written work, but then we'd have to a--lyze Gaga as an author, not as a musician.

lyrics are poetry. gaga has always referred to songwriting as writing poetry. 

i guess, you art concept is quite compartmentalized if you have to make a distinction between an author and a musician. 

point being, gagz is an artist: that makes her the author of her poetry and of her music.

[Riot Poof 2,236]

lyrics are poetry. gaga has always referred to songwriting as writing poetry. 

i guess, you art concept is quite compartmentalized if you have to make a distinction between an author and a musician. 

point being, gagz is an artist: that makes her the author of her poetry and of her music.

I do agree that lyrics are poetry. It's just that this discussion isn't treating her lyrics as poetry but as an extension of her pop music and how they relate to ARTPOP being "experimental" or "experimental pop."

[crisTEAne 21,059]

I do agree that lyrics are poetry. It's just that this discussion isn't treating her lyrics as poetry but as an extension of her pop music and how they relate to ARTPOP being "experimental" or "experimental pop."

that's the thing with which i deeply disagree.

[Riot Poof 2,236]

that's the thing with which i deeply disagree.

I need you to elaborate. I've been trying to understand why you'd deeply disagree but I just can't.

Let me rephrase myself. In regards to Gaga's lyrics, the users in this thread are discussing whether or not the lyrics in ARTPOP make the album experimental (pop). We're not looking at the lyrics by themselves but as part of a bigger product.

[PopBitch 1,218]

the woman herself said that the album is full of radio friendly pop bops

like just enjoy the bops enough with this experimental talk  

This.  She herself said every song could be on the radio.  

Experimental?  No.

[Sableye 574]

Im intrigued as to why everyone still dwells over ARTPOP so much. Why keeps people coming back? It's like a bad break up that monsters can't move on from. 

No shade or anything.  I'm just curious. 

Maybe its just that her ARTPOP could mean everything, so people often project their own explanation as to what the albums about. That's my best guess but . . . that was two years ago . . . we've had a whole album and era since then.

[GawdGa 1,399]

this thread is experimental 

[artpopmess 369]

"My ass is famous"

[Harry 26,836]

Here hun. Lyrical content plays a big role in experimental music. Here is an article about it where MTV compare her to Zappa. 

http://www.mtv.com/news/1656878/lady-gaga-born-this-way-lyrics/

Did you actually read that article? Or did you just Google "lady gaga frank zappa"?

The article talks about how Gaga embraced being 'weird' and 'odd' with BTW which is actually kind of offensive because it implies that aligning oneself with the LGBT community is 'odd'. It doesn't compare her with Frank artistically at all.

And in any case, that article is about the song Born This Way and it was written before said song was even released. This thread is clearly about ARTPOP, and that is what we've been discussing. If you're trying to argue that an album is experimental by bringing up an article that (extremely) vaguely compares a song from a previous album to one innovative artist, then... Well I don't even know what to tell you. Try again, I guess?

[Harry 26,836]

YAS, clock them.

then watch them ignore it and call it irrelevant journalism. obviously, the only valid standpoint is theirs which—again, obviously—also makes it a "fact."

You too. Did you read it? Do you know who Frank Zappa is? Could you name a song of his without Googling? Are you aware that the article is about Born This Way? Are you aware that it doesn't actually reference and compare lyrical content between Gaga and Zappa? Did you see that this thread is specifically about ARTPOP?

So many questions for the delusionals to answer.

[Harry 26,836]

Wow, if you Google "lady gaga frank zappa" that article is literally the third result that comes up, I just can't  And I was actually was joking! These people don't even try

[Doogi 1,507]

Well she's a skilled pop writer. So I think her writing style will ALWAYS be more insteresting and "experimental" than the actual beats she uses