Was "Miley Cyrus & Her Dead Petz" Miley's attempt at ARTPOP?

[ReidOne 12,427]

Miley is literally breathing new life into ARTPOP! 

 

 

[ReidOne 12,427]

Miley on top. Gaga on bottom. All fashions by BCalla. #ARTPOP 

 

 

[ReidOne 12,427]

If you haven't realized it yet, wake up. 

Peace, mother ****ers. 

 

 

[uvglo 966]

Vote4Bernie, your OP is absolutely right. 'Dead Petz' is Miley's way of acknowledging ARTPOP and carrying the ideas and spirit forward to a new audience. And reiterating all its principles. 

It was all foreshadowed on social media by both artists. 

 

In the 3 weeks preceding 'Dead Petz' VMA release, Miley on social media: 

- shaded Taylor Swift (calling her out for promoting violence, instead of love)

- shaded Nicki Minaj (calling her out for bullying)

- praised Gaga: https://instagram.com/p/6Lov0TQzIb/

 

And of course, one hour before the VMA's Gaga tweeted she'll be cheering ARTPOP tonight: https://twitter.com/ladygaga/status/638091156514078720

 

Miley's VMA's release: 

- with her as host, felt a lot like the 1st artRAVE release party

- releasing for free via online streaming services felt a lot like BTW's release as a free bundle with a cell phone service package (emphasizing the actual $ of music --- free) 

- Miley's performance on a stage full of drag queens and trans dancers. And not just any drag queens, but RuPaul's Drag Race contestants. RuPaul being a derivative of the NYC nightclub scene, also Gaga's origins. Which felt a lot like the true "first video" of the ARTPOP era, Gaga's "Applause" lyric video at a drag show. Oh --- and also starring former contestants of RuPaul's drag race. 

- Miley's performance ended with a rain of Warhol-inspired mylar balloons, a central piece of Gaga's ARTPOP promotion. 

- Miley appeared on stage at one point in a costume of pastel colored glossy balls covering her body. With the largest one covering her vagina. Which brings to mind Gaga's Koons balls used throughout ARTPOP (including the one covering her vagina on the cover) as well as tipping her hat to Gaga's bubble dress. 

- Miley also appeared in a perfectly rectangular "dress" that resembled a gay pride flag. Which was a mashup of the perfectly square headpiece Gaga wore on the same VMA stage to launch ARTPOP + the Applause "pride rainbow"-inspired face makeup. 

- Speaking of Applause makeup, just as Gaga smears it all over her face in 'Applause', Miley smears the glitter-pain-vomit all over her face in "Dooo It" video, which is also a reference to Gaga's vomit performance art at SXSW during ARTPOP. 

- And finally, in case all of the above wasn't enough to tie it all together, Miley's last look of the night was a swine mask on top of her head, creating the sillhoute of Gaga's most famous look of all: the hairbow. 

 

Miley is carrying the torch of Lady Gaga's most "reviled" moments/era and absolutely throwing it in the face of the entire industry. Miley is someone everyone on Gaga Daily should be bowing down to right now. She's 100% honoring Gaga with all of this. And she wants it to be obvious. 

 

Really well put!

 I like how Miley's doing it because, to me it doesn't seem like shes trying to "steal" ARTPOP's idea, just showing she agrees with it, and giving her perspective on what ARTPOP (or well, artistic freedom, really) means. And that's what Gaga would love. We should know Gaga's work is always up for discussion and the meanings are always interchangeable. She wants us to debate, and to share our ideas and perspectives. And Miley was the first, besides Gaga, to be brave enough to show what she thinks about that.

[ReidOne 12,427]

uvglo I couldn't agree with you more. 

[BGY309 149]

No because ARTPOP was polished and put together, miley's new album is utterly atrocious please don't do gags like that

ARTPOP could be anything but polished and put together. Aura is complete trash since she had changed the verses, MANiCURE doesn't have an intro and kinda sucks, ARTPOP the song to me is hard to listen, Sexxx Dreams was better at the iTunes Festival as well as Swine. 

[gagzus 15,248]

ARTPOP could be anything but polished and put together. Aura is complete trash since she had changed the verses, MANiCURE doesn't have an intro and kinda sucks, ARTPOP the song to me is hard to listen, Sexxx Dreams was better at the iTunes Festival as well as Swine. 

actually Aura's verses go better with the theme of the song and her reasoning behind changing them (which is pretty obvious why), MANiCURE's intro is literally the first few seconds of the instrumental played before she sings and she used it so she knows when to actually come in, I don't know why you would find ARTPOP hard to listen to since it's soft and looping, and Sex Dreams at iTunes festival felt empty in the chorus' and the bridge sounded meh

[Pure Adrenaline 1,518]

When Gaga launched ARTPOP on the VMA stage 2 years ago, she literally appeared with her face as a blank canvas. And what did she choose to cover her self-canvas with?? The Pride flag colors. 100% same as one of Miley's VMA outfits this year.

Gaga did not choose to be covered with the pride colors ... don't u see that those are the 3 primary color Blue, Yellow and Red

 

[Jenniferella 2,774]

"Her little fanbase, they're crazy. They want everything to be about Lady Gaga."

 

Once again, it fits with the situation.

[holy scheisse 21,755]

The album is more experimental than ARTPOP 

[holy scheisse 21,755]

yall are f*cking crazy. miley doesnt give a sh*t about gaga's musical direction. shes not taking the ARTPOP idea remotely like her album has nothing to do w ARTPOP 

[Battle 4 Ur Life 6,461]

no. it's post-ARTPOP. it's just something new. ARTPOP is ARTPOP.

[Delete 258]

The following is my opinion. If you don't like it, well, I don't really care tbh. Anyway... 

I completely believe that Miley showcased the concept of ARTPOP in a more fitting way. Miley actually shrugged off her commercial sound ENTIRELY and made interesting music that she was passionate about. She even embodied the concept of "music not the bling" better by allowing the album to be free.

Gaga's ARTPOP ended up becoming a project that was soulless and manipulated by her management to BE commercial. Apart from tracks like "Aura" and "Venus", ARTPOP doesn't take bold musical risks or stands out. Hell, take out the dumb auto tune, give her a better budget, and slap on some REAL promo and the album would've been a hit. 

Miley hit ARTPOP's concept right in the head. She actually put artistic visuals in the forefront through her MUSIC. 

That is all. -DA

 

 

 

 

[PopBitch 1,218]

It was MIley's attempt at progressive music, psychedelia infused music, experimental, outside the commercial pop genre, answering to no one, exploring her mind and emotions in her own art form.  I commend her for that.

What is art pop?  I thought Gaga's concept of tying in art with pop was so weak it didn't even work.  I consider art pop, something brilliant in concept that elevates pop into art,which can come into many forms.

 

Bowie was ARTPOP with the concept album The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and The Spider from Mars.

"The album tells the story of Bowie's alter ego Ziggy Stardust, a rock star who acts as a messenger for extraterrestrial beings. Bowie created Ziggy Stardust while in New York City promoting Hunky Dory and performed as him on a tour of the United Kingdom, Japan and North America.[6] The album, and the character of Ziggy Stardust, was known for its glam rock influences and themes of s-xual exploration and social commentary. These factors, coupled with the ambiguity surrounding Bowie's s-xuality and fuelled by a ground-breaking performance of "Starman" on Top of the Pops,[7] led to the album being met with controversy and since hailed as a seminal work.[8]

The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust... is about a bis-xual alien rock superstar; the concept album sheds a light on the artificiality of rock music in general, discussing issues of politics, d--g use, and s-xual orientation.[9]

The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders From Mars has been consistently considered one of the greatest albums of all time, with Rolling Stone magazine ranking it the 35th greatest ever.[10] It was ranked the 20th greatest album ever in a 1997 British survey, the 24th greatest of all time by Q magazine and one of the 100 greatest releases ever by Time magazine. A concert film of the same name, directed by D.A. Pennebaker, was released in 1973 

Concept[edit]

The album presents, albeit vaguely, the story of a rock and roll character called "Ziggy Stardust".[11] Ziggy is the human manifestation of an alien being who is attempting to present humanity with a message of hope in the last five years of its existence. Ziggy Stardust represents the definitive rock star: s-xually promiscuous, wild in d--g intake but with a message, ultimately, of peace and love. He is destroyed both by his own consumptions, and by the fans he inspired.

David Bowie during th eZiggy Stardust Tour.

The character of Ziggy was inspired by British rock 'n' roll singer Vince Taylor whom David Bowie met after Taylor had had a breakdown and believed himself to be a cross between a god and an alien;[12][13] though Taylor was only part of the blueprint for the character,[14] other influences included the Legendary Stardust Cowboy[15] and Kansai Yamamoto, who designed the costumes Bowie wore during the tour.[16] The Ziggy Stardust name came partly from the Legendary Stardust Cowboy, and partly, as Bowie told Rolling Stone, because Ziggy was "one of the few Christian names I could find beginning with the letter 'Z'".[17] He later explained in a 1990 interview for Q magazine that the Ziggy part came from a tailor's shop called Ziggy's that he passed on a train, and he liked it because it had "that Iggy [Pop] connotation but it was a tailor's shop, and I thought, Well, this whole thing is gonna be about clothes, so it was my own little joke calling him Ziggy. So Ziggy Stardust was a real compilation of things."

He killed off the the character at the end in a performance of the last song.

 

The album was intended by Bowie to serve as the soundtrack and musical basis for a stage show and/or television production telling the story of Ziggy Stardust.

 

 

[PopBitch 1,218]

I think Gaga's focus with ARTPOP was not only pushing for the work to be artistic in itself, but also as a way of making fine art POPular. She didn't do experimental "artsy" things for her videos, she was involved with art at the louvre, she worked with a well-known and established performance artist and a famous sculptor, she wore clothes depicting historical art pieces, and did her makeup to reflect painting. 

There are a lot of similarities between Gaga's goals for ARTPOP and Miley's goals for her current album, but I think they're also quite different. 

I do believe that Gaga really pushed for a movement towards ART being present in the POP world and other artists are definitely benefiting from that (and some are even repeating what she said word-for-word with "bringing art to the forefront" )

She pushed for a movement towards art that never even matched up the feel of the album. It only worked a little bit on a couple of songs.  That tie-in was so weak and it's why her concept fell apart.  The album was far too weak for that concept or she just lost interest.  Who knows?  Does Gaga even know?