SKANK 14,288 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I'm gay and I feel like she's implying any relationship I have with another man is not normal. Any s-xual relationship you have with another man is not normal. It may be regarded as normal in the context of our accepting modern society, but that doesn't make your s-xuality "the norm." And so what? You and I are in a s-xual minority, we are outside of the norm whether you like it or not. The majority of our fellow Homo sapiens are interested in having s-x with members of the opposite s-x, you aren't, there for your s-xuality is not normal.Hopefully one day you wont covet normalcy. Abnormal isn't a dirty word. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHGUY 230 Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 I don't recall hearing about that, but I could be wrong. Do you have receipts for this? It doesn't make much sense that, unless she's afraid, she wouldn't get it done. After all, it's not as if she can't afford it thousands of times over.I thought she told Khloe on that two part special that she had a consultation ready for the surgery and she was planning on "fully transitioning" by like I forget when, I wanna say April or something like that. But I'm starting to think she meant transitioning with her identity when she meant "fully", I need to learn more about this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staryu 6,162 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I could have sworn she said she wanted to get it done... I thought she really expressed desire for the surgery.Caitlyn said that she would like to get it done if she decides to date men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mucinex 4,260 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 You didn't say it was a joke, just that it wasn't from your point of view, which could mean anything. well it isn't from my point of view which means i don't think that way myself so it must be a joke because, i don't think that way myself Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I saw that episode. She said something like a relationship with a man would make her feel like a woman. It was an awkward episode. I really hope that the people who are commenting are watching the show, which is amazing and has very very very little to do with the Kardashian's and much more about the struggle in the trans community. She has been going through this transition publicly, we can't scrutinize everything she says. Its obvious she is going to make mistakes. That was a little bit of a very good episode in which she is learning normal is different things to different people and how differently the trans community is viewed. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoFameMonster 1,592 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 That sounds a little arrogant. Her show not only features her but other transgender woman. Anyone who doesn't understand the struggles that come along with being a trans woman can easily watch the show and get informed and or educated on what they go through.Her wanting a NORMAL relationship with a man doesn't have anything to do with her reality show. Her love life =/= her reality show.your kidding right. Having a reality show and wanting a "normal" life or "normal" relationship is pretty impossible and contradictory. How is it arrogant to say that having cameras follow your every move is a far cry from wanting a normal life. And I never said anything about the importance the show has on peoples lives so bringing that up is pointless. Also there are many ways you can help the LGBTQ and Str8 population end transphobia other than doing a reality show, just saying. Wanting a NORMAL relationship with man or woman has everything to do with being on a reality show. Even The fact she is famous affects her having any normalcy in her life even more so in a relationship and a reality show worsens that chance. P.s. thats not really the best use of the word arrogant and good luck to her in her relationships either way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveandMagic 1,731 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 I hope she finds happiness. Beware of the fame *****s and gold diggers, because they will be sniffing around her like crazy. She should just relax and be herself though (just keep the cameras off and that pre-nup handy). Just repeat to yourself, "It's just a show. I should really just relax." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexxx 2,244 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 maybe she's experimenting. Lady Gaga/ Madonna/Lana /Azealia Banks/ Jazmine Sullivan/ DEEE-LITE/ Moko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie 5 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Who doesn't want a normal relationship? She's not referring to gender or s-xuality in any way at all THIS. Some of you guys are just way too easily offended. I took "normal" as "casual, laid back, not in the limelight". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I think she just meant normal as in normal, like without any problems or society looking at it weird or people questioning it and stuff I highly doubt she'd mean "normal" in a bad way towards homos-xual couples, I mean come on she's a transgender individual in the 21st century, I'm sure she doesn't have those views Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 The issue I have with her is that she supposedly identifies as as-xual after saying she was attracted to women, and unless she's genuinely attracted to men (or heteroromantic), she's essentially saying she wants to have a relationship with a man purely for the purpose of fueling her femininity, which doesn't really sit right with me. But don't you think MANY MANY things done or desired by Transwomen in transition are "for the purpose of fueling their femininity." Including wanting access to women-only spaces, dressing ultra-feminine, and so forth. If their entire gender can change, why not their orientation too? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Every time someone says they want a "normal" relationship, I always think of this scene in As Good As It Gets. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chic 20,830 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 But don't you think MANY MANY things done or desired by Transwomen in transition are "for the purpose of fueling their femininity." Including wanting access to women-only spaces, dressing ultra-feminine, and so forth. If their entire gender can change, why not their orientation too? Then you are implying relationships/romantic interests fall under the category of accessories. Feminine clothes are accessories used to boost femininity. Men are not. A dog is not an accessory to a famous socialite.Not all transwomen are ultrafeminine. I'm not saying her orientation hasn't changed, that's the entire point. She's seemed to identify as three different s-xualities in the last three months, so going by what she officially came out as being compared to this comment, it looks to me like she wants a man purely to make her seem more feminine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GHGUY 230 Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Any s-xual relationship you have with another man is not normal. It may be regarded as normal in the context of our accepting modern society, but that doesn't make your s-xuality "the norm." And so what? You and I are in a s-xual minority, we are outside of the norm whether you like it or not. The majority of our fellow Homo sapiens are interested in having s-x with members of the opposite s-x, you aren't, there for your s-xuality is not normal.Hopefully one day you wont covet normalcy. Abnormal isn't a dirty word.you bring up a good point and looking at it that way, I totally understand what you mean. I think we have been conditioned as a society to think if we aren't normal there is something wrong or bad about us. And then it creates this whole "in-group" and "out-group" phenomenon. But I get what you mean, I guess by something being labelled as not normal I feel like it has negative implications as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
retroglamx 5,177 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Caitlyn should just step away from the spotlight for a moment, all of this exposure can't be good for a person going through self-discovery. Pink flamingos always fascinated me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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