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[Melech 9,900]

Uhh, can I get some receipts for this? Because I've never heard Roger Waters say anything homophobic, anti-semitic, or racist.

I looked up "Roger Waters homophobia" and I got a bunch of people pointing to the song "In the Flesh," saying it's an example of his bigotry. It's completely missing the point of that song in the context of the album, which is a concept album about a man, Pink, and how his isolation from society made him easy prey for hateful ideologies, like the fictional neo-Nazi group "the Worms." The protagonist of the album, Pink, eventually wants out of this group he's gotten himself into, which you'll hear in "Stop" - "I wanna go home, take off this uniform and leave the show. But I'm sitting in this cell because I have to know - have I been guilty all this time?" He is literally judged (albeit for personal crimes) in the following song and ultimately his walls are torn down, since he can't get out of them anymore. The live show shows him disgustedly taking his military memorabilia off.

And you know, this album has a point. When people are feeling depressed and disappointed with their lives, it's easy to take advantage of them to promote hate. Why do you think Donald Trump is so popular? Because people are unsatisfied and they need to blame someone! That's what Waters was trying to tell us, not "look at these groups of people I hate."

If there's some interview where he mentions how much he hates the gays, please let me know, because my search has been unsuccessful.

http://divinevarod.com/2013/07/27/roger-waters-performs-anti-semitic-racist-homophobic-song-live-dressed-as-nazi/

 

once a nazi, always a nazi. 

 

[lego 44,165]

http://divinevarod.com/2013/07/27/roger-waters-performs-anti-semitic-racist-homophobic-song-live-dressed-as-nazi/

 

once a nazi, always a nazi. 

 

He replied to that tho.

"There has been some comment on the Internet about the Wall Show in Belgium to which I feel I should respond.

 

One Alon Onfus Asif, an Israeli living in Belgium, came to The Wall show in Belgium last week and being an observant sort of chap Alon noticed a Star of David on the Pig that is destroyed by the audience at the end of the show. Then Alon dutifully videoed our Pig on his phone, posted this video, and alerted Israeli Daily, Yediot Ahronot. This story was duly picked up by the ever watchful Rabbi Abraham Cooper, Dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the entirely predictable resulting rant is attached here:

 

http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/07/24/massive-pig-balloon-at-roger-waters-concert-features-star-of-david-video/.

 

Often I can ignore these attacks but Rabbi Cooper’s accusations, are so wild and bigoted they demand a response.

 

Dear Rabbi Cooper,

 

I hold your outburst to be inflammatory and un-helpful and would suggest it can only impede progress towards peace and understanding between people. It is also extremely insulting to me personally in that you accuse me of being ‘Anti Semitic’, ‘A Jew Hater’ and ‘Nazi Sympathizer’

 

I have three specific points to make:

 

1). Your use of the adjective “ANTI-SEMITIC”.

 

First I direct you to an announcement by ‘The Anti Defamation League’ an American organization, who’s declared aim is to defend Jewish people and Judaism from attack. They recently said.

 

“While we wish that Mr. Waters would have avoided using the Star of David, we believe there is no anti-Semitic intent here.”

 

I should point out that in the show, I also use the Crucifix, the Crescent and Star, the Hammer and Sickle, the Shell Oil Logo and The McDonald’s Sign, a Dollar Sign and a Mercedes sign.

 

 

2). JEW-HATING? I have many very close Jewish friends, one of whom, interestingly enough, is the nephew of the late Simon Wiesenthal. I am proud of that association; Simon Wiesenthal was a great man. Also I have two grandsons who, I love more than life itself, their Mother, my daughter in law, is Jewish and so, in consequence, I’m told, are they.

 

3). NAZI? Not only did my father, 2nd Lieutenant Eric Fletcher Waters, die in Italy on February 18th 1944 fighting the Nazis, but I was brought up in post war England where I received the most thorough education on the subject of Nazism and where I was spared no horrific detail of the heinous crimes committed in the name of that most foul ideology. I remember my mother’s friends Claudette and Maria, I remember their tattoos, they where survivors, two of the lucky ones.

 

My Mother spent the whole of the rest of her life, involved politically to make sure the future for her children and grandchildren, in fact for everyone’s children and grandchildren, black, white, Gentile, Jew, Latino, Asian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, et al, had no Sword of Damocles in the form of the despised Nazi Creed hanging over their heads.

 

I for my part, as best I can, have continued along my parent’s path. At the age of nearly 70, in the spirit of my Father and Mother and all they did, I have stood my ground, as best I can, in defense of Mistress Liberty.

 

The Wall Show, so lamely attacked by you, is many things. It is thoughtful, life affirming, ecumenical, humane, loving, anti war, anti colonial, pro universal access to the law, pro liberty, pro collaboration, pro dialogue, pro peace, anti authoritarian, anti fascist, anti apartheid, anti dogma, international in spirit, musical and satirical.

 

It is not.

 

ANTI-SEMITIC or PRO NAZI

 

I have often come under attack by the pro Israel lobby because of my support for BDS, (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) which I won't go into here, anyone interested can access a speech I made at The United Nations on the 29th November last year.

 

However I will say this, in a functioning theocracy it is almost inevitable that the symbol of the religion becomes confused with the symbol of the state, in this case the State of Israel, a state that operates Apartheid both within its own borders and also in the territories it has occupied and colonized since 1967.

 

Like it or not, the Star of David represents Israel and its policies and is legitimately subject to any and all forms of non violent protest. To peacefully protest against Israel’s racist domestic and foreign policies is NOT ANTI-SEMITIC. Your contention that because I criticize the Policies of the Israeli government I should be lumped in with the Muslim Brotherhood is risible, and again a personal affront. I have spent my whole adult life advocating separation of church and state.

 

At every Wall Show I invite 20 vets from whatever country we are in backstage at half time to meet, exchange handshakes and good wishes and mementos. At one show, a year or so ago, an older vet, Vietnam era, at a guess, blocked my exit, he put out his hand which I took, he did not let go, he looked me in the eyes and he said " Your Father would be proud of you."

 

Tears burn my eyes.

 

The Wall is reaching out to you and all the other Rabbi Cooper’s out there.

 

Come to the show!

 

Love

 

Roger

 

P.S.

 

For the sake of some perspective. The inflatable pig that so offended young Alon has appeared at every Wall Show since September 2010, some 193 shows, yours is the first complaint. Also the pig in question represents evil, and more specifically the evil of errant government. We make a gift of this symbol of repression to the audience at the end of every show and the people always do the right thing. They destroy it." 

 

https://m.facebook.com/notes/roger-waters-the-wall/an-open-letter-from-roger-waters/688037331210720

 

[Melech 9,900]

He replied to that tho.

"There has been some comment on the Internet about the Wall Show in Belgium to which I feel I should respond.

 

One Alon Onfus Asif, an Israeli living in Belgium, came to The Wall show in Belgium last week and being an observant sort of chap Alon noticed a Star of David on the Pig that is destroyed by the audience at the end of the show. Then Alon dutifully videoed our Pig on his phone, posted this video, and alerted Israeli Daily, Yediot Ahronot. This story was duly picked up by the ever watchful Rabbi Abraham Cooper, Dean of the Simon Wiesenthal Center and the entirely predictable resulting rant is attached here:

 

http://www.algemeiner.com/2013/07/24/massive-pig-balloon-at-roger-waters-concert-features-star-of-david-video/.

 

Often I can ignore these attacks but Rabbi Cooper’s accusations, are so wild and bigoted they demand a response.

 

Dear Rabbi Cooper,

 

I hold your outburst to be inflammatory and un-helpful and would suggest it can only impede progress towards peace and understanding between people. It is also extremely insulting to me personally in that you accuse me of being ‘Anti Semitic’, ‘A Jew Hater’ and ‘Nazi Sympathizer’

 

I have three specific points to make:

 

1). Your use of the adjective “ANTI-SEMITIC”.

 

First I direct you to an announcement by ‘The Anti Defamation League’ an American organization, who’s declared aim is to defend Jewish people and Judaism from attack. They recently said.

 

“While we wish that Mr. Waters would have avoided using the Star of David, we believe there is no anti-Semitic intent here.”

 

I should point out that in the show, I also use the Crucifix, the Crescent and Star, the Hammer and Sickle, the Shell Oil Logo and The McDonald’s Sign, a Dollar Sign and a Mercedes sign.

 

 

2). JEW-HATING? I have many very close Jewish friends, one of whom, interestingly enough, is the nephew of the late Simon Wiesenthal. I am proud of that association; Simon Wiesenthal was a great man. Also I have two grandsons who, I love more than life itself, their Mother, my daughter in law, is Jewish and so, in consequence, I’m told, are they.

 

3). NAZI? Not only did my father, 2nd Lieutenant Eric Fletcher Waters, die in Italy on February 18th 1944 fighting the Nazis, but I was brought up in post war England where I received the most thorough education on the subject of Nazism and where I was spared no horrific detail of the heinous crimes committed in the name of that most foul ideology. I remember my mother’s friends Claudette and Maria, I remember their tattoos, they where survivors, two of the lucky ones.

 

My Mother spent the whole of the rest of her life, involved politically to make sure the future for her children and grandchildren, in fact for everyone’s children and grandchildren, black, white, Gentile, Jew, Latino, Asian, Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, et al, had no Sword of Damocles in the form of the despised Nazi Creed hanging over their heads.

 

I for my part, as best I can, have continued along my parent’s path. At the age of nearly 70, in the spirit of my Father and Mother and all they did, I have stood my ground, as best I can, in defense of Mistress Liberty.

 

The Wall Show, so lamely attacked by you, is many things. It is thoughtful, life affirming, ecumenical, humane, loving, anti war, anti colonial, pro universal access to the law, pro liberty, pro collaboration, pro dialogue, pro peace, anti authoritarian, anti fascist, anti apartheid, anti dogma, international in spirit, musical and satirical.

 

It is not.

 

ANTI-SEMITIC or PRO NAZI

 

I have often come under attack by the pro Israel lobby because of my support for BDS, (Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions) which I won't go into here, anyone interested can access a speech I made at The United Nations on the 29th November last year.

 

However I will say this, in a functioning theocracy it is almost inevitable that the symbol of the religion becomes confused with the symbol of the state, in this case the State of Israel, a state that operates Apartheid both within its own borders and also in the territories it has occupied and colonized since 1967.

 

Like it or not, the Star of David represents Israel and its policies and is legitimately subject to any and all forms of non violent protest. To peacefully protest against Israel’s racist domestic and foreign policies is NOT ANTI-SEMITIC. Your contention that because I criticize the Policies of the Israeli government I should be lumped in with the Muslim Brotherhood is risible, and again a personal affront. I have spent my whole adult life advocating separation of church and state.

 

At every Wall Show I invite 20 vets from whatever country we are in backstage at half time to meet, exchange handshakes and good wishes and mementos. At one show, a year or so ago, an older vet, Vietnam era, at a guess, blocked my exit, he put out his hand which I took, he did not let go, he looked me in the eyes and he said " Your Father would be proud of you."

 

Tears burn my eyes.

 

The Wall is reaching out to you and all the other Rabbi Cooper’s out there.

 

Come to the show!

 

Love

 

Roger

 

P.S.

 

For the sake of some perspective. The inflatable pig that so offended young Alon has appeared at every Wall Show since September 2010, some 193 shows, yours is the first complaint. Also the pig in question represents evil, and more specifically the evil of errant government. We make a gift of this symbol of repression to the audience at the end of every show and the people always do the right thing. They destroy it." 

 

https://m.facebook.com/notes/roger-waters-the-wall/an-open-letter-from-roger-waters/688037331210720

 

It's difficult for a gentile, who is been accused of anti-semitism, suddenly try to excuse himself.

First of all he used all that Nazi-theme and used it for his promotion which is alone really questionable. It's nothing to make profit of. Also that argument "I have friends of XY-ethnicity/race" means nothing. You still can be an asshole, no matter if you have friends who tend to happen Jewish. And the Star of David does not represent Israel. There are millions of Jews living Diaspora who never even visited Israel. it's a b---h slap in their face. And does the cross automatically stands for Denmark,Sweden etc as well? 

We have enough hatred. 

That's off topic anyway

 

[Kayla 7,595]

Justin did some jerk things in the past and for most of his career was way too egotistical, but it's pretty clear he's been trying to clean up his image the past few years. I think the backlash he faced really opened his eyes and made him want to be a better person.

His apology and promises made on his roast seemed so heartfelt, and seeing him cry when the crowd cheered for him at the VMAs sealed the deal for me- he has worked hard to change, and it means a lot to him to be a good person.

Because of that, I am really happy that Justin's single is so successful! 

[VforVendetta 2,024]

Count the likes? I got a lot more likes than you if that's where you want to take this  & you called me ignorant, soo..

Yeah not at all (and we are on a Pop forum as well, lol). Also you need to go back and see who started this, don't blame me.

[Jjang 2,262]

Yes I mean my parents had The Beatles, Pink Floyd, Micheal Jackson, Bruce Springsteen

 

and I have the spoiled brat that tries to be swag instead of making music and his horny fangirls, the freak with the tongue that is expert in every from of sellout, the wannabe rapper with the plastic butt that raps about Michael's d1ck and the Queen of the boobs and tackiness bring #1s.

 

Why god, why?

 

They also had Madonna though, I remember you saying that her music makes you want to puke. Funny how you play with that scenario.

 

[VforVendetta 2,024]

They also had Madonna though, I remember you saying that her music makes you want to puke. Funny how you play with that scenario.

 

First of all I never said her music makes me wanna puke, I have said that I like a lot some of her music. She is far from my favorite but that means nothing. Yes I don't like her that much, I can critiscise her but it doesn't mean that I can erase her or take her career way. I don't see where you are going with this.

[Noah Fatale 72]

 

[UC PiXELVISION 353]

I get so pissed off at people that say "My generation sucks". Holy ****, music evolves. A lot. We aren't always gonna have Moon River from Breakfast at Tiffanys. It's a good song, and we have amazing artists nowadays so calm down and **** off.