Justin Bieber - What Do You Mean? (Music Video + Lyric Video)

[StrawberryBlond 14,582]

No, I agree! I find the way you worded it funny. I figured it was intentional to highly exaggerate the small distance of your age to the "kids" today. Unless that wasn't what you were going for, in which case I'm so sorry.  You're quite young, is the thing, so the fact I found it satirical if that wasn't your intention should tell you something!

I myself do want a level of controversy on the charts. It keeps music interesting. Anaconda was at least intriguing last year. It nearly went #1.

I meant to be jovial, I should have illustrated it with a smiiie to show I had a smile on my face when I said it! I thought you were translating it as the other meaning for "getting down," which is why I found your response funny! I said kids because it sounded less out of touch than "youth" or "youngsters" because only the older generation use those terms. We know young people decide which singles are popular now, so I'm referring mostly to the 13-18 year old market when I say this.

Indeed, even bad songs at least provide something interesting. No one's shaking anything up anymore, for good or bad, just petty Twitter battles at most. I hear so many songs from back in the day that are the musical equivalent of a dragon breathing fire. It's so rare to see fire-breathing moments in music anymore, just dull, middle of the road meaninglessness.

Well I have nothing else to say to the first part of your post because it's all just bias really and you won't admit it.

You think just because he's done some douchey stuff he can't have real human emotion and experience relationship problems like everyone else therefore anything he releases in relation to those feelings are stupid and not genuine. If he dropped some rap single where he was explicitly talking about s-x and god knows what else, I can only imagine the essay you would write criticising every line. Please don't pretend you wouldn't

I won't waste time arguing with you anymore. It's clear you don't like me very much and are therefore averse to everything I say unless it matches your beliefs. If you don't like what I have to say, just ignore it. Not every post you disagree with has to be replied to. If I did that, I'd be here all day. By the way, you're the second Lana fan that's turned on me recently. I wish the mutual love for her music could help us respect one another a bit more.

[Chic 20,830]

I meant to be jovial, I should have illustrated it with a smiiie to show I had a smile on my face when I said it! I thought you were translating it as the other meaning for "getting down," which is why I found your response funny! I said kids because it sounded less out of touch than "youth" or "youngsters" because only the older generation use those terms. We know young people decide which singles are popular now, so I'm referring mostly to the 13-18 year old market when I say this.

Indeed, even bad songs at least provide something interesting. No one's shaking anything up anymore, for good or bad, just petty Twitter battles at most. I hear so many songs from back in the day that are the musical equivalent of a dragon breathing fire. It's so rare to see fire-breathing moments in music anymore, just dull, middle of the road meaninglessness.

You would think the music market would be at its most fiery at this point. Social media is truly a polarizing addition to the music scene nowadays, as it can go both ways. It's easier than ever to see artists disagree and duke it out on a more public platform, so you'd think more combative songs would be made. It seems as if people are leaving their battles on Twitter, which isn't as fun for the listener. Fiery, attacking music tends to be very genuine and from-the-heart as well, which is an interesting dynamic considering most people tend to respect music that comes from an artist's soul. It might give them credibility in some places but others could deem it childish, which I think is intriguing.

[Paper Gangsta 6,693]

love it

[Harry 26,836]

I won't waste time arguing with you anymore. It's clear you don't like me very much and are therefore averse to everything I say unless it matches your beliefs. If you don't like what I have to say, just ignore it. Not every post you disagree with has to be replied to. If I did that, I'd be here all day. By the way, you're the second Lana fan that's turned on me recently. I wish the mutual love for her music could help us respect one another a bit more.

Lol alright. I never said I don't respect you or dislike you, I just think you are incredibly bias in your opinions. It's a discussion forum, I'm here to discuss, so I will do that.

[Yanko 9,860]

 

It depends if they're making good music or not. I'm a lot more open to bad influences if they at least put out something decent. If you have no talent and have to rely on nothing but controversy to sell, that makes you nothing more than an attention w***e. For the record, I actually liked Miley's album. And I think Taylor is boring for many reasons but it isn't for the mere reason that she sings a lot of ballads - they're unexciting ballads.

 

good music for you maybe be viewed as trash for someone else. 

[Guest]

This is the first Justin Bieber song I've truly ever loved. I hope his next album has this kind of sound because I'll be buying it if it does.

[Melech 9,900]

Over 10 million views on the lyric video and over 5 million streams on Spotify. The king has returned!

[Pharamon 6,839]

Over 10 million views on the lyric video and over 5 million streams on Spotify. The king has returned!

king? oh lol

[Delete 258]

This is bittersweet for me. Every time I prepare myself to listen to a Justin Bieber song, I can't help but think about what type of person he is. I was beginning to let it all go, but then he started showing his ass again, that is once PR sweeped up his messy career. 

On the other hand, I'm kind of feeling this new song. It doesn't offer anything lyrically fresh, as it sticks to same niche of love and s-x he is used to singing about. However, the production and melody are very soothing. I imagine a high end joint above the city, covered in lights and vape smoke. I see groups of people lounging on oversized pillows and fabrics, nodding to the music. Its a pretty chill, sort relaxing vibe I get. Though the strange part is, it's slightly danceable. 

Regardless of of him as a person, this song is alright. Not amazing by any means, but good. Perhaps management picked a weaker choice and hopefully there will be something more to peel back. 

[Slappy 392]

the song is so cute! XD  

[Harry 26,836]

I can't believe how well this is holding up on iTunes, I really thought it would've started the usual free fall by now. I hope it can still stand up against CFMF after the VMAs!

[Harry 26,836]

I've always said nothing can be taken for granted in this business. We'll see how it pans out. Justin's yet to have a #1 in America or the UK (or anywhere, really). Really, what are the chances he'll achieve it now after his reputation is what it is?

http://gagadaily.com/topic/162320-justin-scores-first-hot-100-1-with-what-do-you-mean/

http://gagadaily.com/topic/162005-justin-bieber-got-1-in-uk-for-the-first-time-84k-sold/

[StrawberryBlond 14,582]

http://gagadaily.com/topic/162320-justin-scores-first-hot-100-1-with-what-do-you-mean/

http://gagadaily.com/topic/162005-justin-bieber-got-1-in-uk-for-the-first-time-84k-sold/

Ok, I was wrong. I never said for sure it was going to happen. I will say however that streaming plays a much bigger role in getting a hit now and it can get you to #1 even if you didn't have the highest sales that week. It wasn't around when he released his singles up until now, so if we were still operating under the old system, it might not have happened. Singers now have advantages that they didn't have years ago. So, I reckon that if you had a #1 before the streaming era, it counts for a lot more than the current ones. But hits simultaneously mean less and more than they used to - less in the sense that it's not based on pure sales anymore, more in the sense that every way of listening to music is collected to get a better idea of what people are listening to, whether they buy it or not.

[Harry 26,836]

Ok, I was wrong. I never said for sure it was going to happen. I will say however that streaming plays a much bigger role in getting a hit now and it can get you to #1 even if you didn't have the highest sales that week. It wasn't around when he released his singles up until now, so if we were still operating under the old system, it might not have happened. Singers now have advantages that they didn't have years ago. So, I reckon that if you had a #1 before the streaming era, it counts for a lot more than the current ones. But hits simultaneously mean less and more than they used to - less in the sense that it's not based on pure sales anymore, more in the sense that every way of listening to music is collected to get a better idea of what people are listening to, whether they buy it or not.

Oh, come off it. Before you were saying there's no chance he'll get a number one, and now you're saying it's totally easy to get number ones so it's meaningless?

It's not like he's the only one with the 'advantage' of streaming. That's available and utilised by every artist on the chart, so it's still a level playing field.

[StrawberryBlond 14,582]

Oh, come off it. Before you were saying there's no chance he'll get a number one, and now you're saying it's totally easy to get number ones so it's meaningless?

It's not like he's the only one with the 'advantage' of streaming. That's available and utilised by every artist on the chart, so it's still a level playing field.

Both statements still stand. It was streaming that got him the achievement in the end. I'm not saying he's the only one with the advantage, but I am pointing out that the fact he couldn't get a #1 pre-streaming is pretty telling. The system means that some artists will look more popular than they actually are. After all, just because people are streamed the song doesn't mean they enjoyed it. Plus, the US includes YouTube/Vevo views into the bargain (including non-official uses of the song), so that makes it even easier. Basically, all the fans stream and refresh the hell out of the song and it can get to #1, meaning it's just the same group of people playing it on repeat, hardly a reflection of what the public at large want. And if the artist is small and doesn't have a lot of streaming power, they won't chart as high as they would have done in the past. In the UK charts, on the week that streaming counted for the first time, Nicole Scherzinger debuted at #6 and it emerged that her sales alone made her #3, but because she didn't have the streams, she got pushed down. So, you can see how streaming really benefits artists with young fanbases, like Justin's, 1D's, Taylor's, etc. who are all about streaming and are obsessive about it and will refresh over and over. The ones with older and less devoted fans don't stand a chance, meaning the young ones rule the charts. The streaming rule staves off "old" and "irrelevant" acts and whittles down the competition that the "young" "relevant" acts will face and it's unfair in that regard.