Was GaGa a success because of the people around her?

[Benji 20,113]

I agree.

Don't get me wrong, Gaga is a very creative, talented individual with an incredible mind but that's also her biggest downfall. She needed people editing and executing her ideas to make them work as realistically as possible.

[Brooke Hoegan 1,018]

Yes, I believe Gaga is the author of most of the ideas in her career but that doesn't mean she doesn't need a lot of help from others to make them real and polish them

I get furious every time somebody (Gaga included) says "no, Gaga does all by herself" and acts like she needs nobody else's help with her career - that's a straight up bullshiit and beautiful example of blind following God-ga

And yes, I believe Nicola, Laurieann and Dada were a big part of developing and expanding her ideas back then - too bad none of them works with her anymore

[lego 44,165]

She was manufactured by some talented people who designed her career...

 

lol no.

are we a--lyzing pawsdown articles now?

 

and this coming from a fan who is over her? 

[lego 44,165]

When she was given control she designed an album without any hits and it failed to bring in anywhere near as much money as the production costs. Eventually her manager and the people who had made her quit and she couldn't continue by herself

 

Applause was a hit and manager left her at the beginning of the era, so false. 

[yxi 4,999]

When she was given control she designed an album without any hits and it failed to bring in anywhere near as much money as the production costs. Eventually her manager and the people who had made her quit and she couldn't continue by herself

"failed to bring in anywhere near as much money as the production costs" = Angela Cheng bull****. Interscope didn't spend $25 million to promote the album. Gaga even paid herself for the GUY video.

Applause was a hit and ARTPOP suffered from the previous era Born This Way + the blackout. The problem is not the music, it would've been a huge success if released after The Fame Monster.
 

[Sister 9,907]

It is probably a half truth, Gaga did have an earlier team that seemed to work with her to perfection, but I believe that that success was still mostly due to Gaga's imagination and experimentation, wants and dreams. I have missed Dada, even Laurieann and Nicola, but Gaga hasn't fallen apart since they have been gone and one can see that she still pulls an original idea off very well. Gaga hasn't gotten basic since these people left her, long ago.

[Ladey Gagz 2,512]

I guess, but it's the case for most famous singers today

[crisTEAne 21,059]

bull****.

as gagz said during her sxsw keynote speech, "it's an age-old tale. they build you up to tear you down." people like to construct these false theories of her manufactured nature just to take every single credit from her.

B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T.

[gagzus 15,930]

she wasn't manufactured by those in the industry, she manufactured the perfect fake personality in her early career that she then shed to reveal her true self, I believe her team is responsible for her business success like promotion etc...

But I always wondered why troy quit tbh, did she refuse to become a generic look-centric star like she claims was the reasoning behind her flawless and cartoon like beauty in 2012?, did she become too controlling and too much of a perfectionist that she wasn't willing to bend to anyone's suggestions? we don't know really, and as we know she's legally not able to inform us as Troy isn't either.

Do I think that her success was down to her team? No, she wrote the songs, came up with the visions and she performed, told her producers how she wanted it to sound etc... Her team is responsible for the business end of it that's it I think.

And as for "no hits" ARTPOP actually had a lot of songs that could've been hits had they been released and promoted a lot, any song can be a hit if you promote it right and if you make it catchy. At least 10 of the 15 songs could've been top 10 hits and several possibly top 5 or even #1 hits imo.

[giskardsb 12,565]

Gaga started taking more and more control as far back as TFM though.   I remember an interview where Fusari didn't like the image she was presenting when she was doing the Gogo boots and etc stuff with Starlight.  Yes, she certainly capitulated to team members during TF and they,combined with Gaga, were able to mold her image into a near perfect, shiny pop star perfect for a dance pop revival.

I would argue however that her work got more interesting the more control she took, even if her popularity eventually declined.   

However, people today universally call her one of the greatest vocalists of the modern age, and that has nothing to do with any team except Gaga, with her innate talent and physical gifts, and her vocal coach.

 

[VenusBlackStar 1,301]

Well there's that common John Donne saying "No man is an island," meaning that none of us are completely self-reliant. No matter how independent we are, we still don't find success without others helping us. Plus, here's this quote from President Obama in 2012:

"There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me—because they want to give something back. They know they didn't—look, if you've been successful, you didn't get there on your own... If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you've got a business—you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen" - President Obama, 2012

^ Now, the original context of this is him saying that the rich should pay more taxes, but out of context it really supports that "No man is an island" saying.

I believe Gaga is the artistic director of everything she does, but she has people with qualified skill sets helping her carry out her visions. It's like in theater where you have a director with his or her vision for a show, but he or she might not have the technical skills to build the set and props or the skills to make the costumes. That's why there are technical directors and costumers for such things. I think Gaga and a lot of other creatives work like that, so to me the quote is half BS and half legit, though the legit parts are put a little abrasively.

[BitcherelIa 265]

Touchy subject but I believe that Gaga is the mastermind behind her career, she obviously can't do everything herself but while I do agree she was surrounded with very talented people at a time, it all comes down to personal taste and also to the novelty that was Gaga before ARTPOP... after BTW  people felt like they couldn't understand her and stopped following her but her fanbase remained strong... and her reputation as one of the greatest kept her alive during ARTPOP.

I think she lost momentum, and obviously fame brings talent and when it's gone people leave, but I think ARTPOP was a very inteligent approach to her list of work, was it as mainstream as the previous? No. Was it as good or better? Yes.

Therefore there are many more factors than team to consider, but the delivery, in my opinion, was always up to her standards, without regard of what's hot or pop.

[Alfonso 1,550]

Well, none of us knows what really went down, but I do believe that Gaga's team is the key to her success. I don't dare to say much more though 'cause it's too easy to be misinterpreted on this topic and for people to call me out as a troll/hater/basher again

well, it's never as black and white as it seems, but in the end everyone is successful thanks to the team they had, and thanks to themselves for having something that can be worked with.

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[Alfonso 1,550]

Touchy subject but I believe that Gaga is the mastermind behind her career, she obviously can't do everything herself but while I do agree she was surrounded with very talented people at a time, it all comes down to personal taste and also to the novelty that was Gaga before ARTPOP... after BTW  people felt like they couldn't understand her and stopped following her but her fanbase remained strong... and her reputation as one of the greatest kept her alive during ARTPOP.

I think she lost momentum, and obviously fame brings talent and when it's gone people leave, but I think ARTPOP was a very inteligent approach to her list of work, was it as mainstream as the previous? No. Was it as good or better? Yes.

Therefore there are many more factors than team to consider, but the delivery, in my opinion, was always up to her standards, without regard of what's hot or pop.

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[Pain of fame1 229]

sometime i doubt but when.. i start

question

1.Nicola with brooke candy? Success?
2.Where are Laurieann Gibson
3.Dada can help much with Kanye?

look at

1.Oscar perform
2.Cheeks to Cheeks
3.Brandon Maxwell on spotlight when he not follow nicola step and do his best along gaga

yes she have great team help her success. It was perfect storm but her talents can denies she always bring the best from people she work with and some people just want to took all the credit from her ... not fair

THIS.

+ REMEMBER A 2014 INTERVIEW WITH A HAUS MEMBER AND HE SAID THAT 'GAGA WASNT LIKE THE OTHER POPSTARS, SHE HAD TO DO IT ALL BY HERSELF LATELY ( REFERING TO ARTPOP ERA+2014): SHE CALLED STYLISITS SHE MANAGED HERSELF DURING A PERIOD OF TIME ETC, SO NO!