brizoda 4,177 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 But not by telling them [and Jews] going to concentration camps. the samethis is free speech Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 the same Are you even aware what happened in concentration camps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizoda 4,177 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 for me is the same that if a rightwinger tell a communist to die in a gulag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstreak 6,653 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Free Speech issue? Facebook is run by the U.S. Government now? Take a moment to think of just flexibility, love, and trust~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 "you belong into a concentration camp" pretty much incite violence How the **** does a comment like "YOU BELONG IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP" does not incite violence? Do you know what happened in concentration camps??? Some of the worst violent acts in the history of human race! Crack open a book, goddamit. There's no threat of violence and therefore it's just a stupid comment that no one in their right minds would take seriously. Everyone knows antisemitism when they see it, I see no need to censor when people can apparently constantly post (empty) death threats to celebrities too. ISIS propaganda would be different for obvious reasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 There's no threat of violence and therefore it's just a stupid comment that no one in their right minds would take seriously. Everyone knows antisemitism when they see it, I see no need to censor when people can apparently constantly post (empty) death threats to celebrities too.ISIS propaganda would be different for obvious reasons.People would see anti-semitism etc as normal and not punishable which would flawful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 People would see anti-semitism etc as normal and not punishable which would flawful. I'm sorry?Nvm, got it.And it actually is punishable in more than one country so relax. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'm sorry?Nvm, got it.And it actually is punishable in more than one country so relax.I guess it's not punishable on fb, where it should. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laceface 2,964 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Facebook is notorious for being terrible at removing offensive/hate promoting material, they need to sort themselves out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I guess it's not punishable on fb, where it should. Censoring FB won't take the hate away. In fact, it might even increase it drastically. People already despise the Jews because of their questionable privileges - not being able to speak their minds about them might just tip the scale and result in actual violence.I say, let social media be an outlet for ridiculous feelings, there's more chance of them seeing the light there (where people have the means to respond, make it go viral, start discussions,...) than temporarily shutting them up until they find other ways to spread hatred with more damaging results.If you can't handle someone gunning for you in the most obvious way, then you shouldn't be on social media. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikola 4,342 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Free speech my ass.....if u ask me that person deserves to be bannned.....thats why i dont use FB anymore I've got an "F" and a "C" and I got a "K" too And the only thing that is missing is a bitch like "U" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I'd rather have idiots like this display their idiocy online than in the real world. Hateful people like this are finding it increasingly difficult to be hateful in public around the world because intolerance is now more looked down upon. However, I think the comments should be removed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted August 24, 2015 Author Share Posted August 24, 2015 Censoring FB won't take the hate away. In fact, it might even increase it drastically. People already despise the Jews because of their questionable privileges - not being able to speak their minds about them might just tip the scale and result in actual violence.I say, let social media be an outlet for ridiculous feelings, there's more chance of them seeing the light there (where people have the means to respond, make it go viral, start discussions,...) than temporarily shutting them up until they find other ways to spread hatred with more damaging results.If you can't handle someone gunning for you in the most obvious way, then you shouldn't be on social media.You seriously want to know what Jewish Privilege is? -Jewish Privilege is never getting work or school off for any of your holidays-Its being scared to wear your Magen David out in public; weighing the pros against the cons and deciding against it-When you finally decide to wear it, you get called kike- Jewish Privilege is knowing all the punchlines to jokes like “whats the difference between a Jew and a pizza” and “why did hitler kill himself” and wishing you could forget-Jewish Privilege is having no family heirlooms because they were all lost in WW2-Its never knowing what someones reaction will be when they find out that you’re Jewish; you hope it will be a good reaction, but know that it will more often then not, be bad-Its being told “You’re so pretty - for a Jew” or “You dont even look Jewish!”-Jewish Privilege is being told to “stop overreacting” when people try to humanize the man who killed millions of my people - my family -Jewish Privilege is having people tell you to “just get over” it when referring to the holocaust -Its having to watch The Boy in the Striped Pajamas in class and crying because the story is all too familiar-Its breaking down in tears in bio when the boy who sits in front of you calls you a dirty jew; from that point forward, you make sure to tuck your Magen David into your shirt and keep your head down-Jewish Privilege is wondering why there was a barbed wire fence around your Synagogue and why there was a security guard there every sunday; you were only ten when you put the pieces together-Its never knowing exactly how many of your family members were killed in the holocaust, but knowing that it was probably too many to count-Jewish Privilege is feeling unsafe and victimized in your country - a country that claims that it has “Liberty and Justice for all” Yeah Right.-Jewish Privilege is facing the danger to get shot when entering Jewish buildings The internet can be easily used in the opposite to spread their hatred and recruit other people. E.g ISIS or the far-right in Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 The internet can be easily used in the opposite to spread their hatred and recruit other people. E.g ISIS or the far-right in Germany. Not replying to the spoiler 'cause I didn't present my own opinion. And those recruiting accounts are actually deleted Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 How the **** does a comment like "YOU BELONG IN A CONCENTRATION CAMP" does not incite violence? Do you know what happened in concentration camps??? Some of the worst violent acts in the history of human race! Crack open a book, goddamit. I think they are referring to the legal definition of free speech here. You can say this to someone over a message or on the Internet, or even go out in the middle of your street and yell it, and face the consequences of society or your employer, but it doesn't necessarily "incite violence" by the legal definition. Now, if you were to go into a place where Jewish people were honoring those lost in the Holocaust and start shouting this, it would fall under that category. You would be going into a situation to start a riot, basically. That's the difference between free speech and speech used to incite violence. That doesn't mean I agree or condone in any way these statements, and I wish places like Twitter and Facebook had the people and resources to keep all these types of comments off of their networks, but they don't. However, the people using these slurs and offensive language could possibly face repercussions from friends or acquaintances on FB or from their employers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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