Benji 20,113 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 The second (oldest) quote refers OBVIOUSLY to those that KNOW the theme of the song. Don't even Yes but TIHTY is way more direct, everyone can realise the issue of rape and feel the pain while with BN the song is personal and you need to translate Gaga's feelings and situtation to one of your own which makes it less emotional. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Are you really doing this now? It means that everyone can understand the weight of rape as a social issue, not that everyone can undestand it talks about rape. As I said above this post refers to people that already know the theme of rape (since you had already mentioned it in you previous post). You can do better than this though, trying to prove me wrong by using my own direct words, I know very well what I've said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Are you really doing this now? It means that everyone can understand the weight of rape as a social issue, not that everyone can undestand it talks about rape. As I said above this post refers to people that already know the theme of rape (since you had already mentioned it in you rprevious post). You can do beteet than this, trying to prove me wrong by using my own direct words, I know very well what I've said. http://i.imgur.com/pJfjApE.gif Once you've made your mind up, I'm sure this would be a far more thrilling debate. I mean you can't say Brooklyn Nights needs translating when you can't even decide if TIHTY is direct or open. If TIHTY is direct, it's not easy to relate to. Not many people have been raped in comparison to just having a break up with someone. If TIHTY is open for interpretation and can be applied to anything, is it easier to relate to? Yes... but like you also said, BN good be about a dog? So, it's not exactly hard to really stretch your imagination to attach an obviously wrong message to a song. Bottom line is, TIHTY is about rape, it's pretty obvious it is. BN is about breaking up with someone... that's pretty easy to relate to in comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincessGaga 18 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Both... I can't choose!! My bones hurt, from all the shows, but I don't feel the pain 'cause I'm a pro. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted August 19, 2015 Author Share Posted August 19, 2015 Once you've made your mind up, I'm sure this would be a far more thrilling debate. I mean you can't say Brooklyn Nights needs translating when you can't even decide if TIHTY is direct or open. If TIHTY is direct, it's not easy to relate to. Not many people have been raped in comparison to just having a break up with someone. If TIHTY is open for interpretation and can be applied to anything, is it easier to relate to? Yes... but like you also said, BN good be about a dog? So, it's not exactly hard to really stretch your imagination to attach an obviously wrong message to a song. Bottom line is, TIHTY is about rape, it's pretty obvious it is. BN is about breaking up with someone... that's pretty easy to relate to in comparison. Direct and open for interpretation are not opposites though, TIHTY is both. TIHTY is obviously about rape because the writers have said so. The first time I heard the song I didn't know anything about it and I can reassure you that I didn't know it was abour rape even after I heard it. The song is not direct about rape, it's direct about social issues in general. Once again, relatable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaisitalian 3,573 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 TIHTY. I was never a fan of Brooklyn Nights. Don't stone me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted August 19, 2015 Share Posted August 19, 2015 Direct and open for interpretation are not opposites though, TIHTY is both. TIHTY is obviously about rape because the writers have said so. The first time I heard the song I didn't know anything about it and I can reassure you that I didn;t kno wit was abour rape even after I heard it. The song is not direct about rape, it's direct about social issues in general. You just keep backtracking and running into different corners of your own argument. Answer me this, just so I know you're not going completely insane. Is a song about rape easier to relate to than a song about breaking up with a partner? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Slay-yn Nights Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Brooklyn nights has a SPECIAL place in my heart so LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FGGrayson 9,670 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 i hate BN, ill never understand the love for that song 𝗟𝗮𝗱𝘆 𝗚𝗮𝗴𝗮 • 𝗠𝗮𝗻𝗱𝘆 𝗠𝗼𝗼𝗿𝗲 • 𝗦𝗼𝗽𝗵𝗶𝗲-𝗘𝗹𝗹𝗶𝘀 𝗕𝗲𝘅𝘁𝗼𝗿 • 𝗣𝗮𝗿𝗶𝘀 𝗝𝗮𝗰𝗸𝘀𝗼𝗻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,120 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 "Til It Happens to You" by a pretty decent margin.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djBuffoon 12,120 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Answer me this, just so I know you're not going completely insane. Is a song about rape easier to relate to than a song about breaking up with a partner?Unless I'm mistaken, there's nothing in the song that suggests it's about rape. It can be applied to anyone going through a hardship that most others couldn't understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 I always disliked BN, so TIHTY wins for me. And if this song wasn't in a documentary about rape, you wouldn't know it's specifically about that. The lyrics are relatable and there is no tacky mentions of Rocky 4 and Briggite Nielsen's hair. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VforVendetta 2,024 Posted August 20, 2015 Author Share Posted August 20, 2015 You just keep backtracking and running into different corners of your own argument. Answer me this, just so I know you're not going completely insane. Is a song about rape easier to relate to than a song about breaking up with a partner? No and Yes (though it's much more bold). BN is not Someone Like You though anyway. Anyway I'm really tired with this, let's end it here cause we are doing circles. I'm right anyway Kidding Or maybe not Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted August 20, 2015 Share Posted August 20, 2015 Unless I'm mistaken, there's nothing in the song that suggests it's about rape. It can be applied to anyone going through a hardship that most others couldn't understand. That's my point though... it's about "a hardship that most others couldn't understand" ... then there's Brooklyn Nights which is about breaking up with someone? I'm not saying TIHTY is impossible to relate to, I'm saying that BN is easier to relate to. No (though it's much more bold). BN is not Someone Like You though. Anyway I'm really tired with this, let's end it here cause we are doing circles. Hidden Content I agree, let's end this. There's only so much delusion I can reply to in one day. joking or am I? joking Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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