Whispering 18,865 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Femme Fatale was more successful then ARTPOP, so Gaga could pull a Britney Jean. It's interesting, with this album, Gaga could pull anything from a BJ to a Beyoncé. It all depends on the promo, singles, etc.Thise two albums are about the same, sales wise, especially when you look at an average of a 10 per cent drop in album sales every year. FF would have been lucky to pull 650k in 2013. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 That's irrelevant, the audience buying Gagas pop albums couldn't care less about it. Did it prove she's talented? Yes. Does that guarantee success? No. Look at Christina, she's known to have a great voice but she hasn't had a successful album in years, same with Mariah. Gaga is coming off of a successful and highly respected jazz era and impressive TV performances at the Grammys, Stevie Wonder Tribute, and Oscars. Britney was coming off of her rather embarrassing stint on X Factor. That was the biggest issue, the fact that she wasn't really "all there" was exposed. It hurt her brand over all and "Work Bitch" was a terrible single on top of that. If fans were really predicting 300 to 400K for that song, they were completely delusional! Having said that, I don't think Gaga's current position overall is necessarily going to mean that she is going to do better than ARTPOP and Applause, but I do think she will be in a much better position than Britney was going into BJ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Gaga is coming off of a successful and highly respected jazz era and impressive TV performances at the Grammys, Stevie Wonder Tribute, and Oscars. Britney was coming off of her rather embarrassing stint on X Factor. That was the biggest issue, the fact that she wasn't really "all there" was exposed. It hurt her brand over all and "Work Bitch" was a terrible single on top of that. If fans were really predicting 300 to 400K for that song, they were completely delusional! Having said that, I don't think Gaga's current position overall is necessarily going to mean that she is going to do better than ARTPOP and Applause, but I do think she will be in a much better position than Britney was going into BJ. Okay, you could look at the Jazz era that way but at the same time, it hasn't helped her with the demo that pop music appeals too. It may have improved her image a bit with the older audience but as far as young people that listen to pop music goes, many of them have no idea about C2C. The Oscars did get attention but if we are being honest the tribute and Grammys got little attention. I don't think this era is as great for her career as people say as far as brand image goes.Now with Britney, yes X factor wasn't the best for image but if we're being honest with her career, people knew for a long time she wasn't really there. The Circus era promo performances caused negative critical reception and the tour was bashed by critics. It got even worse with the FF era. If Britney had two successful eras with public knowing this, I don't think Flop Factor killed her era. Especially after Scream And Shout was a massive hit despite being released after. What I think killed the era was that Femme Fatale, while a success, wasn't successful enough to take a long break. ARTPOP was a success, it sold well and Applause was a nice sized hit however you can't get on the radio for a few months after a long break and then take another long break. Gaga was in the top 10 for 14 weeks in the last 4 years. That's not good. Now I'm not saying she can't comeback successfully however I don't C2C did as much as people say and she's against odds. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Born To Slay 10,996 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Thise two albums are about the same, sales wise, especially when you look at an average of a 10 per cent drop in album sales every year. FF would have been lucky to pull 650k in 2013. okay, so adjusted ARTPOP sold more by less then 100k (using raw numbers FF outsold ARTPOP by 40k), Femme Fatale sold way more singles (6m compared to ARTPOPs 4m) and Brits tour did about 10m less then Art rave however Britney had less dates. So these eras, while not exact, were very similar commercially. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamlet 67 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 205k600k1.9 m3.9 m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Okay, you could look at the Jazz era that way but at the same time, it hasn't helped her with the demo that pop music appeals too. It may have improved her image a bit with the older audience but as far as young people that listen to pop music goes, many of them have no idea about C2C. The Oscars did get attention but if we are being honest the tribute and Grammys got little attention. I don't think this era is as great for her career as people say as far as brand image goes.Now with Britney, yes X factor wasn't the best for image but if we're being honest with her career, people knew for a long time she wasn't really there. The Circus era promo performances caused negative critical reception and the tour was bashed by critics. It got even worse with the FF era. If Britney had two successful eras with public knowing this, I don't think Flop Factor killed her era. Especially after Scream And Shout was a massive hit despite being released after. What I think killed the era was that Femme Fatale, while a success, wasn't successful enough to take a long break. ARTPOP was a success, it sold well and Applause was a nice sized hit however you can't get on the radio for a few months after a long break and then take another long break. Gaga was in the top 10 for 14 weeks in the last 4 years. That's not good. Now I'm not saying she can't comeback successfully however I don't C2C did as much as people say and she's against odds.The Jazz era and the three performances I listed, have helped Gaga overall, with her image and the fact that everyone now (not just the people who follow awards shows or watch her acoustic performances) knows about her excellent vocal ability. It gives her a much more positive image and brand going into the next era, with pop music listeners, adult pop listeners, people who buy albums but don't listen to the radio and most importantly, the media. This is what the OP was saying in the first place. Gaga is in a better position, with overall respect and goodwill from the GP and the media. The GP, meaning people who don't hang out on pop diva sites, had no idea how bad Britney was. It was a major topic on social media, when XFactor went to their live shows. People were shocked at how confused and out of it Britney appeared to be. There was a large segment of the media that didn't even know the extent of how far she had gone from her old self. What should have given her the opportunity to make a good comeback, ended up doing nothing but making people, the media and the industry feel sorry for her. The people that manage Britney should have known that X Factor was too much for her to handle. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 These two albums are about the same, sales wise... yes....that's what I said Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 400k first week sales. I have no idea how much it will sell otherwise, I'm bad at predicting that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klou 2,414 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 150K350K500K1.5M So many people are setting themselves up for a meltdown. Why do people not realize how dramatically sales have been declining? 500K is like the new platinum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiscoHeaven23 35,007 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Being really realistic and not a super fan. I think this is gunna be an album that doesn't neccasarily have crazy numbers the first week, but will be one that grows in sales as time goes on after people realize the talent on the album, this is a whole new Gaga. So I'm saying it will sell like The Fame. Unless the first single blows the GP out of the water. Also, album sales have dropped since The Fame and Born This Way came out so keep that in mind too. So...First week sales US: 210K Total U.S. sales: 2.5 million Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BULATIO 1,635 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 First week in US - 200 000 or 250 000 copies fighting buryat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VersaceKing 419 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 250-400K (full price) / 400-700K (0.99$)550-700K (full price) / 700K-1M (0.99$)1-2M 3-4M Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPokeHerFace 2,564 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 First week US: between 200,000 and 300,000First week WW: between 600,000 and 700,000Final US: between 1,000,000 and 1,500,000Final WW: between 3,000,000 and 5,000,000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 first week usa :500k overall ww 5 m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
malazam 15,710 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 1) 480 - 550k2) 750 - 800k3) 2,5 - 3m4) 7,5 - 8mbut I believe this is going to be her biggest era, with RedOne and Bobby as manager...Two smashes hit will slay (12-14 million singles sold and at least #1 at the Hot 100) another shot before we kiss the other side Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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