Melech 9,900 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 ... what goes on in Europe has very little to do with what happens here other than crazy laws. The people attacking Jews here are Muslims. That's obvious. The UK has a similar society like in France,Spain or Germany. A multi-cultural. And I live in one of those countries. All of them have huge muslim minority and I can guarantee you that not only muslims are anti-semitic. You saying that Non-muslims are not anti-semitic is firstly islamophobic and secondly anti-semitic as well since you deny the anti-semitism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 The UK has a similar society like in France,Spain or Germany. A multi-cultural. And I live in one of those countries. All of them have huge muslim minority and I can guarantee you that not only muslims are anti-semitic. You saying that Non-muslims are not anti-semitic is firstly islamophobic and secondly anti-semitic as well since you deny the anti-semitism. don't assume you know about the UK. Don't presume you know how things work here. It's completely different to Germany and France because the cultural groups live on top of each other, everyone is oppressed and hates each other regardless. But you hav to look at motive and society's views. Only one group has a reason to attack Jews. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 don't assume you know about the UK. Don't presume you know how things work here. It's completely different to Germany and France because the cultural groups live on top of each other, everyone is oppressed and hates each other regardless.But you hav to look at motive and society's views. Only one group has a reason to attack Jews. What? For a start nobody has a valid reason for attacking Jewish people and it's a complete exaggeration to say that that in the UK "everyone is oppressed and hates each other regardless" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 What? who is committing these crimes if not the people with motive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 don't assume you know about the UK. Don't presume you know how things work here. It's completely different to Germany and France because the cultural groups live on top of each other, everyone is oppressed and hates each other regardless. But you hav to look at motive and society's views. Only one group has a reason to attack Jews. And how do you assume how it is in France or Germany? There never were reasons to attack Jews. Anti-semitism is not Muslim exclusive. Every gentile can be anti-semitic. You basically try to tell me what anti-semitism is and that ,my friend, is indeed something white people are good in. Trying to tell people what their discrimination is and who is the aggressor. You are making yourself sounding totally irrational. Just believe me that not only some Muslims are anti-semitic but also White Christian/Atheists. As my granny says: Scratch a Goy and you'll find an anti-Semite I don't believe that this saying is true though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 who is committing these crimes if not the people with motive?I edited to add more as to what I'm confused about. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 What? For a start nobody has a valid reason for attacking Jewish people and it's a complete exaggeration to say that that in the UK "everyone is oppressed and hates each other regardless"eldlyrics rrich white men are quite comfortable here. I never said valid reason at all so I don't know where you pulled that from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 And how do you assume how it is in France or Germany? There never were reasons to attack Jews. Anti-semitism is not Muslim exclusive. Every gentile can be anti-semitic. You basically try to tell me what anti-semitism is and that ,my friend, is indeed something white people are good in. Trying to tell people what their discrimination is and who is the aggressor. You are making yourself sounding totally irrational. Just believe me that not only some Muslims are anti-semitic but also White Christian/Atheists. As my granny says: Scratch a Goy and you'll find an anti-Semite I don't believe that this saying is true though The UK couldn't care less about Jews. Atheists don't care about any religion and think you're all nuts and Christians are. .. indescribable. The fact is, if you look at who has committed these crimes in the UK in the past 12 months, the pattern of Muslim on jew crime is very apparent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 The UK couldn't care less about Jews. Atheists don't care about any religion and think you're all nuts and Christians are. .. indescribable. The fact is, if you look at who has committed these crimes in the UK in the past 12 months, the pattern of Muslim on jew crime is very apparent."On July 2015 the Community Security Trust published antisemitic incidents report for the first six months of the year. The report showed an increase of 53% compared with last year results, with 473 incidents across the UK. Most of the incidents (353) were under the category of "abusive behavior". A significant increase was in both of the violent categories ("violent assault" and "extreme violent") with 44 incidents, which is twice the number of last year results in the same categories. In 36% of the total number of incidents there was a political reference: 32 incidents referred to Israel and Zionism, 16 incidents mentioned the Islam and 122 incidents included far right discourse."source: wiki Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted July 30, 2015 Author Share Posted July 30, 2015 eldlyrics rrich white men are quite comfortable here. I never said valid reason at all so I don't know where you pulled that from. Maybe you didn't but I was just adding it as a qualifier, a lot (if not most) of these incidents were coming from non-muslims, regardless of what your blinding islamaphobia wants to believe. Don't you think idiots belonging to both groups of Christians and Atheists can be capable of these attacks too? Sure, elderly rich white men are "comfortable here" (where aren't the rich and wealthy?) but the rest of the population do not hate every other group of society Sure, racism, homophobia and whatever are all rising problems but that still doesn't fit your narrative of what the UK is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Better Day 5,766 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I hate the rise of right-wing groups down in England. All they do is scaremonger like our "amazing" Prime Minister did today. People forget these people are human. This scaremongering should stop to prevent attacks on Jews, muslims, LGB+, Trans etc. Immigration does England more good than bad. They bring in 20 billion each year into the so called UK economy. However in Scotland, we mainly don't have this problem. We are more left-wing and more tolerable Together You And I! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 This is about the UK. The population of which is less than thrilled about being associated with Europe. Typical nationalist. Thinks that a race or whole population thinks the same way. Many citizens of the UK see the benefits of staying in the EU and see through Nigel's too-good-to-be-true, nationalist promises, while assuming that the UK voters are somehow superior to voters in other European countries. Multiculturalism is a loaded gun. It doesn't work. It's like putting a pack of wolves in a house with sheep and expecting them to coexist. Different cultures want different things and get very offended by the actions of others.Who's attacking Jews? Not atheists, not catholics, not Christians. Come to your own conclusions.You know what else has no place in the UK? Marrying minors, honour killings and paedophile family groups. It did in old-England though. It was really normal for your ancestors to marry a 13 year old girl.Norms and values change over time. While 80 years ago many Brits supported Hitler's anti-semitism, supported death punishment for homos-xuals and 'breeded like rabbits', now most have become more civilisized. That, eventhough the underlying principes of Nazis (aka nationalist socialists) are still prominent in the UK and the rest of Europe: 'our' people is better.I ofcourse don't agree with some of the norms and values (especially if the word 'traditional' is used), and don't have respect for them, but I understand that many people simply got to their point of view due to circumstances (poverty, parents' religion, education, idols, etc.) and think that the best thing to do would be to try to change those views that do not fit our societies. I think I wouldn't have my views if my parents (Greens voters, atheist) had other views and if I wasn't gay and wasn't brought up in a middle-class family. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 Typical nationalist. Thinks that a race or whole population thinks the same way. Many citizens of the UK see the benefits of staying in the EU and see through Nigel's too-good-to-be-true, nationalist promises, while assuming that the UK voters are somehow superior to voters in other European countries. It did in old-England though. It was really normal for your ancestors to marry a 13 year old girl.Norms and values change over time. While 80 years ago many Brits supported Hitler's anti-semitism, supported death punishment for homos-xuals and 'breeded like rabbits', now most have become more civilisized. That, eventhough the underlying principes of Nazis (aka nationalist socialists) are still prominent in the UK and the rest of Europe: 'our' people is better.I ofcourse don't agree with some of the norms and values (especially if the word 'traditional' is used), and don't have respect for them, but I understand that many people simply got to their point of view due to circumstances (poverty, parents' religion, education, idols, etc.) and think that the best thing to do would be to try to change those views that do not fit our societies. I think I wouldn't have my views if my parents (Greens voters, atheist) had other views and if I wasn't gay and wasn't brought up in a middle-class family.This has little to do with Nigel and more to do with eu legislation losing me my job last week. And also the fact that ukip got the most votes in the general election... but we don't have proportional representation.Regardless, truly antisemitic crimes are unlikely to be committed in this day and age by any group other than muslim & scum that attack everyone, chaos, tearaways etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luc 4,776 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 This has little to do with Nigel and more to do with eu legislation losing me my job last week. And also the fact that ukip got the most votes in the general election... but we don't have proportional representation.Regardless, truly antisemitic crimes are unlikely to be committed in this day and age by any group other than muslim & scum that attack everyone, chaos, tearaways etc.I also know that there's a lot of anti-semitism among muslims and have heard some of it in real life, but the difference i that anti-semitic muslims usually attack verbally while little fascist clubs I feel sorry for you losing your job. What rule was it that made you lose your job? And is it something made up by the European Parliament (which is democratic)? I hope you can find a new job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShockPop 7,747 Posted July 31, 2015 Share Posted July 31, 2015 I also know that there's a lot of anti-semitism among muslims and have heard some of it in real life, but the difference i that anti-semitic muslims usually attack verbally while little fascist clubs I feel sorry for you losing your job. What rule was it that made you lose your job? And is it something made up by the European Parliament (which is democratic)? I hope you can find a new job.I was very successful in a company organizing boilers, solar panels etc at 50% government finance (paid back via a tax on your bills) and 50% privately funded (paid back in chunks of £200 whenever the homeowner can afford it). The EU called it a tax break and demanded that the funding was cut. It was removed without notice last week and the company lost £50,000 in current business and £500,000 in business that was signed for the following 3 weeks.How was it a tax break if people were paying back gov finance with interest whilst paying lower bills due to better efficiency? Europe is a sack of ****.On topic: we have a crossover culture in the UK right now. Muslims with the attitude of football hooligans. They'll hit anyone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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