Hexxx 2,244 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Well i'm sorry to say but all of that doesn't reflect onto who Madonna is as a person now. Really speaks volumes as to how she's declined. She hasn't done anything useful for LGBT or Aids in the past 10+ yrs. Lady gaga is a better musician than Madonna could ever be. Madonna could never pull off a Fame, ARTPOP or C2C era. Madonna still relied a lot on her physical beauty, something Gaga doesn't. That's something GAGA has contributed that donna hasn't Also marilyn monroe was only 1 example sis She has an album better than The Fame. ARTPOP????? i could understand if you said TFM but And not to mention her Jazz work on I'm Breathless is better than C2C. don't believe me go listen to it. Lady Gaga/ Madonna/Lana /Azealia Banks/ Jazmine Sullivan/ DEEE-LITE/ Moko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 She has an album better than The Fame. ARTPOP????? i could understand if you said TFM but And not to mention her Jazz work on I'm Breathless is better than C2C. don't believe me go listen to it. Grammys disagree oop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hexxx 2,244 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Grammys disagree oopC2C was better than the other nominated jazz albums. Im sorry but I'm Breathless is a lot of fun Lady Gaga/ Madonna/Lana /Azealia Banks/ Jazmine Sullivan/ DEEE-LITE/ Moko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Grammys disagree oop Metacritic scores : Like a Prayer 92/100 Ray of Light 87/100 Celebration 84/100 Confessions 80/100 Music 80/100 The Fame 71/100 ARTPOP 61/100 oop Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 In my opinion Madonna is not really that original. She was a fresh artist when she started but apart from Like a Virgin and Erotica I don't see anything really original from her. There were many musicians who did the things Madonna did but most things were attributed to her because of her fame.Her Blond Ambition Tour literally made Gaga's career and it was unprecedented by any pop artist back then, mixing dancing with fashion, theatre and dramatic costume changes. She was the first pop artist using fashion as an object of deliberate s-xual provocation. She also influenced the world of fashion by promoting the idea of underwear as outerwear. Ray of Light is universally seen as the first pop attempt to bring underground electronic dance music to the masses. She's also credited for being the first artist to transcend her "pop" category and establish herself as a global icon that single-handedly completely redefined what people could expect a female pop artist to do or say. The elements of s-xuality and religion in her work started a revolution for women in music. She's also credited as the first female pop star that sought financial control in the industry, got it and maintained it by continuously reinventing her image (again something entirely new in the industry), visually and musically (ring a bell?) and creating fashion and music trends all around her at least until 2000. She was also the first American pop icon to intentionally break taboos related to s-x, including support for the gay community and spreading awareness about HIV. She also launched the popularity of celebrity adoption, created a market for Voguing and burlesque dancing, defined MTV and the music video and pushed global attention towards other cultures and their visual/fashionable motifs when she referenced them, for example South Asia and Spain. She popularized Jewish mysticism and yoga, was the first woman in the mainstream eye who merged the s-xual with the sacred, earning her more controversy than any artist ever has up to this point.So yeah, she was more original in her time than probably any pop artist after her. It's just hard to see it because we're all so used to seeing what Madonna worked her ass off to make happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 KARMA I'm tired of people reminding me/us what she DID she should start doing great things TODAY not being a bigger attention wh*re than Miley plus there's no way ghosttown would have succeeded, her voice sounds so cringeworthy and autotuned on it and if the song belonged to idk Katy Perry I doubt it would have been a hit since the song is so boring b---h I'm Madonna the song that represents her the most? sure!bc she didn't want a hit and she didn't star stud her vid yeah right it's sad that even tho rebel heart is so bad it's, along with 1989, among the least worse albums this year LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 KARMA I'm tired of people reminding me/us what she DID she should start doing great things TODAY not being a bigger attention wh*re than Miley plus there's no way ghosttown would have succeeded, her voice sounds so cringeworthy and autotuned on it and if the song belonged to idk Katy Perry I doubt it would have been a hit since the song is so boring b---h I'm Madonna the song that represents her the most? sure!bc she didn't want a hit and she didn't star stud her vid yeah right it's sad that even tho rebel heart is so bad it's, along with 1989, among the least worse albums this year Don't you think its a bit unfair to accuse Madonna & Miley of being attention *****s when Gaga literally wore a dress made out of meat & had a girl puke on her on stage? They're all attention *****s, period. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Again, nothing personal, but I just don't trust what you say unless you link me to the post in that forum you visit. Here you go, here is the information you asked for. These are the stats they are discussing on his board, in a small section of a larger board. (This board is music-related, but not a Pop forum) He said this list is the last updated list (around three months after most of the dates went on sale) from MadonnaNation from some tour section and it is the list they have been discussing. I can go back and ask for the direct link and PM you with it, as I'm not sure that posting links to other fanforums is always a good idea. Again, this does not mean that these dates will not end up being sold out...just that the whole tour, or even a majority of it, did not sell out in minutes. NORTH AMERICA (21 dates, plus 8 added) Sept 9 - Montreal, Quebec - SOLD OUTSept 10 - Montreal, Quebec - addedSept 12 - Washington DCSept 16 - New York, New YorkSept 17 - New York, New York - addedSept 19 - Brooklyn, New YorkSept 21 - Quebec - addedSept 24 - Philadelphia, PennsylvaniaSept 26 - Boston, MassachussettsSept 28 - Chicago, IllinoisOct 1 - Detroit, MichiganOct 3 - Atlantic City, New JerseyOct 5 - Toronto, OntarioOct 6 - Toronto, Ontario - addedOct 8 - St. Paul, MinnesotaOct 11 - Edmonton, Alberta - SOLD OUTOct 12 - Edmonton, Alberta - addedOct 14 - Vancouver, BCOct 17 - Portland, OregonOct 19 - San Jose, CaliforniaOct 22 - Glendale, ArizonaOct 24 - Las Vegas, NevadaOct 27 - Los Angeles, CaliforniaOct 29 - San Diego, California - added EUROPE (14 dates, plus 11 added) Nov 4 - Koln, Germany - SOLD OUTNov 5 - Koln, Germany - addedNov 7 - Prague, Czech RepublicNov 8 - Prague, Czech Republic - addedNov 10 - Berlin, Germany - SOLD OUTNov 11 - Berlin, Germany - addedNov 14 - Stockholm, SwedenNov 16 - Herning, DenmarkNov 19 - Turin, Italy - addedNov 21 - Turin, Italy - SOLD OUT (3 minutes)Nov 22 - Turin, Italy - added SOLD OUTNov 24 - Barcelona, SpainNov 25 - Barcelona, Spain - addedNov 28 - Antwerp, BelgiumNov 29 - Mannheim, Germany - addedDec 1 - London, EnglandDec 2 - London, England - addedDec 5 - Amsterdam, Holland - SOLD OUTDec 6 - Amsterdam, Holland - addedDec 9 - Paris, France - SOLD OUT (5 minutes)Dec 10 - Paris, France - added SOLD OUTDec 12 - Zurich, Switzerland - addedDec 14 - Manchester, EnglandDec 16 - Birmingham, EnglandDec 20 - Glasgow, Scotland NORTH AMERICA Jan 20 - Miami, FloridaJan 23 - Miami, Florida - addedJan 24 - Atlanta, GeorgiaJan 27 - San Juan, Puerto RicoJan 28 - San Juan, Puerto Rico - added AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND (8 dates) Mar 05 - Auckland, New ZealandMar 06 - Auckland, New ZealandMar 12 - Melbourne, AustraliaMar 13 - Melbourne, AustraliaMar 19 - Sydney, AustraliaMar 20 - Sydney, AustraliaMar 26 - Brisbane, AustraliaMar 27 - Brisbane, Australia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Don't you think its a bit unfair to accuse Madonna & Miley of being attention *****s when Gaga literally wore a dress made out of meat & had a girl puke on her on stage? They're all attention *****s, period. are you sure about your comparisondo you REALLY think Gaga is a Miley or Madonna level of attention wh*re LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 are you sure about your comparisondo you REALLY think Gaga is a Miley or Madonna level of attention wh*re Their job is literally to get attention though Sure, people can go about it in differen ways but all three of them have done 'outside the box'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,379 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 are you sure about your comparisondo you REALLY think Gaga is a Miley or Madonna level of attention wh*re Why shouldn't she be though? Just being real here. Gaga showed her tits for no apparent reason more than Miley or Madonna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 are you sure about your comparisondo you REALLY think Gaga is a Miley or Madonna level of attention wh*reYes, I do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrer Zorola 3,966 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 Yes, I do. nnn ok then LIFE IS GOOD Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted July 16, 2015 Share Posted July 16, 2015 are you sure about your comparisondo you REALLY think Gaga is a Miley or Madonna level of attention wh*re yes all those 3 ladies have used s-x selling and more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jjang 2,262 Posted July 16, 2015 Author Share Posted July 16, 2015 Here you go. These are the stats they are discussing on his board, in a small section of a larger board. (No, not Pulse. This board is music-related, but not a Pop forum) He said this list is from MNation from some tour section and it is the one they have been discussing. I can go back and ask for the direct link and PM you with it, as I'm not sure that posting links to other fanforums is a good idea. NORTH AMERICA (21 dates, plus 8 added) Sept 9 - Montreal, Quebec - SOLD OUTSept 10 - Montreal, Quebec - addedSept 12 - Washington DCSept 16 - New York, New YorkSept 17 - New York, New York - addedSept 19 - Brooklyn, New YorkSept 21 - Quebec - addedSept 24 - Philadelphia, PennsylvaniaSept 26 - Boston, MassachussettsSept 28 - Chicago, IllinoisOct 1 - Detroit, MichiganOct 3 - Atlantic City, New JerseyOct 5 - Toronto, OntarioOct 6 - Toronto, Ontario - addedOct 8 - St. Paul, MinnesotaOct 11 - Edmonton, Alberta - SOLD OUTOct 12 - Edmonton, Alberta - addedOct 14 - Vancouver, BCOct 17 - Portland, OregonOct 19 - San Jose, CaliforniaOct 22 - Glendale, ArizonaOct 24 - Las Vegas, NevadaOct 27 - Los Angeles, CaliforniaOct 29 - San Diego, California - added EUROPE (14 dates, plus 11 added) Nov 4 - Koln, Germany - SOLD OUTNov 5 - Koln, Germany - addedNov 7 - Prague, Czech RepublicNov 8 - Prague, Czech Republic - addedNov 10 - Berlin, Germany - SOLD OUTNov 11 - Berlin, Germany - addedNov 14 - Stockholm, SwedenNov 16 - Herning, DenmarkNov 19 - Turin, Italy - addedNov 21 - Turin, Italy - SOLD OUT (3 minutes)Nov 22 - Turin, Italy - added SOLD OUTNov 24 - Barcelona, SpainNov 25 - Barcelona, Spain - addedNov 28 - Antwerp, BelgiumNov 29 - Mannheim, Germany - addedDec 1 - London, EnglandDec 2 - London, England - addedDec 5 - Amsterdam, Holland - SOLD OUTDec 6 - Amsterdam, Holland - addedDec 9 - Paris, France - SOLD OUT (5 minutes)Dec 10 - Paris, France - added SOLD OUTDec 12 - Zurich, Switzerland - addedDec 14 - Manchester, EnglandDec 16 - Birmingham, EnglandDec 20 - Glasgow, Scotland NORTH AMERICA Jan 20 - Miami, FloridaJan 23 - Miami, Florida - addedJan 24 - Atlanta, GeorgiaJan 27 - San Juan, Puerto RicoJan 28 - San Juan, Puerto Rico - added AUSTRALIA/NEW ZEALAND (8 dates) Mar 05 - Auckland, New ZealandMar 06 - Auckland, New ZealandMar 12 - Melbourne, AustraliaMar 13 - Melbourne, AustraliaMar 19 - Sydney, AustraliaMar 20 - Sydney, AustraliaMar 26 - Brisbane, AustraliaMar 27 - Brisbane, Australia This is the exact same information from the unupdated ATRL Rebel Heart Tour thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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