Ladey Gagz 2,512 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 literally known this song for a year but only listened to it now. Those vocals. Literal queen. Really Not you not listening to the MASTERPIECE before Flop tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Just like your personality. Don't be mad though, I'm just using my FREEDOM OF SPEECH! Fave post. Yes they do... They determine physical gender. I'm sorry but the ignorance One does not need to go through genital surgery to be considered a woman/man. That is offensive and transphobic. Gender refers to how you identify yourself, not what you have going on down there. A transwoman who cannot afford the surgery to have her penis removed but still identifies as a woman, is a WOMAN. Not everyone can afford to fully transition. Also, Conchita is a drag queen and queen is a feminine noun. So we refer to Conchita with female pronouns. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 What a mess Is there something that you do on here besides "shading"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
YCHofficial 5,293 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Is there something that you do on here besides "shading"?you cant expect that only people who like the cover will respond in this thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayum 240 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 It's a guy, yes. He identifies as a male in his private life. Conchita is just a female character for his artistery.So since this is about Conchita she has long hair and beard and she went topless. OK, i'm just saying even if used in this context the connotation of topless is gone, and the beard the long hair, the tapes don't really add much. But perhaps I've been desensitised. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
isMusic 629 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 I am amazed. ****ing beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dayum 240 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 So many labelling. negative comments labelled transphobic, ignorant is OK. calling she a he or vice versa not OK. I think it is permissible that when someone refers someone by a pronoun they are not merely referring to their psychological gender, but also their biological s-x. Saying drag queen is a feminine noun is just conforming to antiquated views of society's perception of gender just as much as saying a term is only for girls and not for boys. If you're going to advance an argument you have to consider how much double standards you apply. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleachella 2,932 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 eek I will say this is a big move for her, and I applaud her for that, But i'm not a fan of the cover Looks.. try hard and tacky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muh 144 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I don't know how to feel about it All I know is I think she looks gorgeous Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainingOnMe 7,280 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Gender identity is not the same as biological s-x. I didn't say they were the same. I'm just saying that genitals determine physical / biological gender. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanC 938 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 thisbecause we don't like it? Okyou guys wouldn't have a problem to call a messy cover of katy, rihanna, britney or madonna a mess right?the double standards in this forum I swearthey'll squeal transphobic because they're so easily offended that they can't see a mess...if katy looked like a mess then she looks like a mess... If conchita looks like a mess then she does... No more no less... Conchita looks great sometimes And has a phenomenal voice... But this cover is a hot mess... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 107,953 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 I didn't say they were the same. I'm just saying that genitals determine physical / biological gender.Yes, but in this discussion we're talking about Caitlyn's gender identity, which is female. Her having genital surgery or not doesn't define her as female. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craig 680 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 It only features a person who identifies as trans and combines characteristics of both genders. If you think it's messy you think there's something wrong about being transSince when is intentionally combining traits of both genders considered "trans." I thought that was genderqueer? Transwomen may have a penis etc because they haven't had full surgery, but they don't go for ultra-masculine facial hair. gen·der·queerˈjendərˌkwi(ə)r/adjective1.denoting or relating to a person who does not subscribe to conventional gender distinctions but identifies with neither, both, or a combination of male and female genders."the genderqueer community"noun1.a person who does not subscribe to conventional gender distinctions but identifies with neither, both, or a combination of male and female genders."a younger generation of self-proclaimed genderqueers explicitly reject ‘transgender’ as an identifier" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennji 546 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 FUQING HAWT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SychosSoChic 9,995 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Conchita is so attractive to me Coz you a hoe booboo everything attracts you #AllTeaNoShade #LoveYouLongTime #JK #LolNotJKing xoxo Life ain't Hollywood for any one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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