GagaMyBlood95 9,915 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 14,429,261 views so far, it's doing good but it would do much better if it wasn't blocked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mucinex 4,260 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 it's great visually but it feels a little try-hard to be disturbing, i mean, maybe because the video came out waaay after the single she had to try a little hard to be shocking, but it's good i guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,959 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 yawn.The fact that people actually care about "s-xualised content" it's 2015. Sexualised content has and always will be a huge part of pop culture, like it or not. Switch to the country genre if you're offended. It's not the s-xualised content that's a problem, it's the linkage of it with violence. It's highly disturbing and can warp young minds or further warp already warped minds. Not all s-xual content is bad but there's good and bad ways to do it. Sexuality with power imbalances are common in the media and is the idealised form of s-xuality presented to the world. It's no wonder so many girls grow up thinking this is the only way and they have no right to complain about being s-xualised. You're a guy - you don't have to struggle with this like women do. So many men don't realise the impact this stuff has on women's lives. How is a young boy going to grow up to treat women when there's scantily clad s-xual women in movies and music videos he watches, the video games he plays, getting degraded in the strip clubs he visits and the p0rn he watches? As the public, we can decide when s-xual representations go too far by taking a stand. We have a right to enjoy pop music without having to see women getting degraded. By just switching off, nothing gets changed.the video is flagged and only people with account can watch it its 18+ i guess you guys are not fond of horror films eitherThere's ways round these things. The OP has embedded the video in their post and you can view it without authorisation, as is the case with all embedded videos - the only person who needs to login is the person who actually posts it in the first place. That's how I've watched the video - I haven't signed into YouTube/Vevo once to see it. You don't need to be 18 to get a GGD account, so definitely, under-18's will have viewed this on the site already. Besides this, there are tons of sites out there that host explicit versions of videos without the need for authorisation. It's the net - there are no limits.And actually, I do like horror films, provided they're not too gory. Films are different from music videos. For one, the restrictions are far more effective. They're also not promoted like music videos and less people watch a film than watch a music video. Plenty of underage people won't realise a lot of horror films exist either, but they know who Rihanna is and want to watch her videos.Real good article on The Fader about the videohttp://www.thefader.com/2015/07/03/in-defense-of-the-bbhmm-video *In Defense Of The #BBHMM VideoA feminist point-by-point breakdown with Karley "Slutever" Sciortino and Rachel Libeskind. By LIZ RAISSWatching the opening scene of Rihanna's #BBHMM video, I was reminded of the iconic Michelangelo Antonioni film, L'Eclisse. In the film, Monica Vitti wanders through a breakup with her financier boyfriend, struggling to reclaim ownership of her own identity, to overcome her total objectification within the relationship. There's the immediate similarity of the beautiful blonde ciphers, the icy properties of men with money, but that alone made it clear Rihanna has some **** she wants to say, and it's important. The video's drop coincided with predictably polarized reactions. A thinkpiece on Refinery29 declared it"Not Safe For Work or Feminists" while Twitter accused Rihanna ofglorifying violence against women, and condemned the "kidnapped female" trope. We weren't sure it was all that clear-cut, so we brought in two of our favorite cultural commentators and feminists, writer Karley "Slutever" Sciortino and artist Rachel Libeskind, to chime in.Its female victim is symbolic, not literalKARLEY SCIORTINO: The character of the female to me seems to be almost inhuman, she represents an idea of what society thinks of femininity: tall, blonde, white, skinny, submissive, big tits, the little dog. They seemingly intended to make it as obvious as possible that this is an unrelatable caricature of femininity. The possession and object of this powerful white guy. The character seems intentionally unreal, a parody of society's idea of woman, she's almost a Barbie. She is what society expects women to look and act like, and she's directly juxtaposed with Rihanna and her girl gang, which are more realistic depictions of women. It's our gateway to challenging music video stereotypesRACHEL LIBESKIND: What was "normal" when we were kids in 2000 has pivoted tremendously in the last 15 years. What was hyper-s-xualized or shocking in a Toni Braxton or Ashanti video is now sweet and safe, completely normalized. What we expect to see and are okay seeing [today] has widened and with that comes seeing women as perpetrators of a kind of violence—power. It's about pushing the portrayals of women even further. I feel like this video is the gateway to desensitizing us to a completely new depiction of women who are powerful and violent but aren't like, Uma Thurman in Kill Bill...And s-xual stereotypesLIBESKIND: Look at what's happening politically with marriage equality—which really means that a homos-xual lifestyle is accepted into mainstream American culture—as well as what is on trend: 50 Shades Of Grey. It's just jarring for a woman to be the dominant, perpetrating the violence, rather than a man. The aesthetics of the video make sense in a culture with a widening acceptance of different types of s-xuality.It's shocking—but not for the obvious reasonsLIBESKIND: It's rare to see Rihanna as a harbinger of violence, when we are used to seeing her as a s-xual object or as a "woman in love"and in "BBHMM", she makes the white, female victim the object of s-x, and the receiver of [Rihanna's] own violence. Aesthetically it almost reads like a lesbian BDSM movie. It fetishizes violence but with an empowering message: RiRi is a BAD BITCH who, like any man, demands to get paid and will not get walked all over.It powerfully reclaims female nuditySCIORTINO: It's good to normalize the female body. In so many music videos where you see nudity it's framed in these really specific ways: abstract female body parts just looking hot. When Rihanna's naked she isn't posing in a hyper-s-xual way, she's covered in blood and she'll cut your dick off. She looks powerful, but it's almost casual, normalized. It's not about just showing nipple, it's about showing a powerful representation of the female body, powerful s-xual images where women are in charge of the way that they're being viewed, rather than being shot by a male photographer, bent over with their tongue out.It's a reminder to go after what you're owedLIBESKIND: I think the seed at the heart of this song and video is how notoriously difficult it is for artists (of any kind) to get their due payment, and statistically much harder for females to get paid, or get raises or bonuses or promotions. Her white male accountant may be a stand in for a manager, a record label exec, but he's the villain here, and this video is really about the lengths a female artist will go to get paid. I think in some way, this song may be a kind of oblique anthem about standing your ground to get the money you are owed.It's not just about s-x and genderSCIORTINO: This isn't necessarily about gender or feminism, it seems like a deliberate critique of a lot of things, including privilege. The way the woman is depicted isn't, to me, entirely blameless, she represents a kind of selfish person who stands by in an unjust society because it benefits her. The real conflict, for me, is between Rihanna and the guy. This is a society where rich white guys have all the money, and Rihanna is a black woman reclaiming the power that's owed to her. It's revolutionaryIt's a throwback to the power of 90s hip hop iconsLIBESKIND: I feel like the violence, the s-xuality, the nudity [of the video] are part of a long legacy of hip hop and R&B songs, but it's disturbing and shocking because it's an all female cast. If these actions were done by men we'd barely notice, but it's still shocking to see a female covered in blood after getting violent retribution. I love Eminem but he glamorized and normalized violence against women, and this reframes that. It also throws back to the power of Foxy Brown and Lil' Kim, the original gangstresses.Wow, that is one screwed up article that seems to be trying to convince itself that all is well. The woman is not a symbol, she is literal (as if her look is that unattainable or that uncommon), it plays into video stereotypes, not breaking them (MV content has got steadily more outrageous over time and has become a content to see who can be the most shocking), it plays into s-xual stereotypes, not breaking them (hot women being stripped naked - how is this progressive?), being murderous d--g dealer is evil, not empowering, it puts female nudity out there for sale and adding violence onto it plays even more into the media's disturbing fascination with juxtaposing s-x and violence, it's just pure s-x selling masked as female empowerment, it's nothing to do with racial politics (how did I know that angle would come up?). The only thing it got right is maybe it's throwback to the raw power of 90's female rappers, but that's about it. These women have some cheek calling themselves feminists. They think the best way a woman can empower herself is to be a cold, unfeeling person who only cares about themselves and money. That's not empowering for men, regardless of what society says, and it shouldn't be for women either. And to say that this is a powerful statement for a black woman to make, therefore, playing into the stereotype of blacks being associated with gang culture and d--gs purely because of their race? Sounds like classic racism to me. How about telling women they can be strong in ways that don't involve violence? It sends a really bad message to do otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre 10,480 Posted July 5, 2015 Share Posted July 5, 2015 Real good article on The Fader about the videohttp://www.thefader.com/2015/07/03/in-defense-of-the-bbhmm-video *In Defense Of The #BBHMM VideoA feminist point-by-point breakdown with Karley "Slutever" Sciortino and Rachel Libeskind. By LIZ RAISS Watching the opening scene of Rihanna's #BBHMM video, I was reminded of the iconic Michelangelo Antonioni film, L'Eclisse. In the film, Monica Vitti wanders through a breakup with her financier boyfriend, struggling to reclaim ownership of her own identity, to overcome her total objectification within the relationship. There's the immediate similarity of the beautiful blonde ciphers, the icy properties of men with money, but that alone made it clear Rihanna has some **** she wants to say, and it's important. The video's drop coincided with predictably polarized reactions. A thinkpiece on Refinery29 declared it"Not Safe For Work or Feminists" while Twitter accused Rihanna ofglorifying violence against women, and condemned the "kidnapped female" trope. We weren't sure it was all that clear-cut, so we brought in two of our favorite cultural commentators and feminists, writer Karley "Slutever" Sciortino and artist Rachel Libeskind, to chime in. Its female victim is symbolic, not literal KARLEY SCIORTINO: The character of the female to me seems to be almost inhuman, she represents an idea of what society thinks of femininity: tall, blonde, white, skinny, submissive, big tits, the little dog. They seemingly intended to make it as obvious as possible that this is an unrelatable caricature of femininity. The possession and object of this powerful white guy. The character seems intentionally unreal, a parody of society's idea of woman, she's almost a Barbie. She is what society expects women to look and act like, and she's directly juxtaposed with Rihanna and her girl gang, which are more realistic depictions of women. It's our gateway to challenging music video stereotypes RACHEL LIBESKIND: What was "normal" when we were kids in 2000 has pivoted tremendously in the last 15 years. What was hyper-s-xualized or shocking in a Toni Braxton or Ashanti video is now sweet and safe, completely normalized. What we expect to see and are okay seeing [today] has widened and with that comes seeing women as perpetrators of a kind of violence—power. It's about pushing the portrayals of women even further. I feel like this video is the gateway to desensitizing us to a completely new depiction of women who are powerful and violent but aren't like, Uma Thurman in Kill Bill ...And s-xual stereotypes LIBESKIND: Look at what's happening politically with marriage equality—which really means that a homos-xual lifestyle is accepted into mainstream American culture—as well as what is on trend: 50 Shades Of Grey. It's just jarring for a woman to be the dominant, perpetrating the violence, rather than a man. The aesthetics of the video make sense in a culture with a widening acceptance of different types of s-xuality. It's shocking—but not for the obvious reasons LIBESKIND: It's rare to see Rihanna as a harbinger of violence, when we are used to seeing her as a s-xual object or as a "woman in love"and in "BBHMM", she makes the white, female victim the object of s-x, and the receiver of [Rihanna's] own violence. Aesthetically it almost reads like a lesbian BDSM movie. It fetishizes violence but with an empowering message: RiRi is a BAD BITCH who, like any man, demands to get paid and will not get walked all over. It powerfully reclaims female nudity SCIORTINO: It's good to normalize the female body. In so many music videos where you see nudity it's framed in these really specific ways: abstract female body parts just looking hot. When Rihanna's naked she isn't posing in a hyper-s-xual way, she's covered in blood and she'll cut your dick off. She looks powerful, but it's almost casual, normalized. It's not about just showing nipple, it's about showing a powerful representation of the female body, powerful s-xual images where women are in charge of the way that they're being viewed, rather than being shot by a male photographer, bent over with their tongue out. It's a reminder to go after what you're owed LIBESKIND: I think the seed at the heart of this song and video is how notoriously difficult it is for artists (of any kind) to get their due payment, and statistically much harder for females to get paid, or get raises or bonuses or promotions. Her white male accountant may be a stand in for a manager, a record label exec, but he's the villain here, and this video is really about the lengths a female artist will go to get paid. I think in some way, this song may be a kind of oblique anthem about standing your ground to get the money you are owed. It's not just about s-x and gender SCIORTINO: This isn't necessarily about gender or feminism, it seems like a deliberate critique of a lot of things, including privilege. The way the woman is depicted isn't, to me, entirely blameless, she represents a kind of selfish person who stands by in an unjust society because it benefits her. The real conflict, for me, is between Rihanna and the guy. This is a society where rich white guys have all the money, and Rihanna is a black woman reclaiming the power that's owed to her. It's revolutionary It's a throwback to the power of 90s hip hop icons LIBESKIND: I feel like the violence, the s-xuality, the nudity [of the video] are part of a long legacy of hip hop and R&B songs, but it's disturbing and shocking because it's an all female cast. If these actions were done by men we'd barely notice, but it's still shocking to see a female covered in blood after getting violent retribution. I love Eminem but he glamorized and normalized violence against women, and this reframes that. It also throws back to the power of Foxy Brown and Lil' Kim, the original gangstresses. This seems very LittleMonsters.com ❝Is not blue, not turquoise, not lapis. It's actually cerulean❞. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Little Phoney 658 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 She combined a lot of Gaga videos. I don't like anything anyone is wearing.Other than that, pretty decent video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slayer 9,227 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 Oh my God, the a--lysis of this video is just... Just enjoy it. It's hilarious and over the top. Not trying to invent the wheel. I love judas SO MUCH but I canʹt look like a copycat of JLO!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenniferella 2,774 Posted July 6, 2015 Share Posted July 6, 2015 She combined a lot of Gaga videos. "I have been writing LG5 since I was 13" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 i showed this to my friends they loved it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
My Little Phoney 658 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Telephone, The Fame Part One, Paparazzi, Marry The Night etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody 64,631 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Telephone, The Fame Part One, Paparazzi, Marry The Night etc. I don't think that Riri was inspired by Gaga when she thought of the concept of the video and when she directed it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jenniferella 2,774 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Telephone, The Fame Part One, Paparazzi, Marry The Night etc.No, stop. "I have been writing LG5 since I was 13" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 the song is life r8 will be fire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 i hope it can repeak on bb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Navy 495 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Telephone, The Fame Part One, Paparazzi, Marry The Night etc.you're a delusional mess ew Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jojuun 4,159 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Telephone, The Fame Part One, Paparazzi, Marry The Night etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Featured Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.