eifulien 2,954 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 ARTPOP definitely is her worst album and her worst era. The lyrics are sub-par, the production is so dry in several songs (*cough* DJWS *cough* with the exception of DWUW and Applause of course). The themes don't really make sense together or as the concept she had thought out for ARTPOP. It's just a bunch of randomness that she tries to give a more in depth meaning to that just doesn't exist. Not only that, nearly everything surrounding ARTPOP was a letdown: the app, the lackluster and untimely fashion choices (like wearing the bubble dress 2.0 in a random alley instead of somewhere where it would get more media attention), and the lack of overall cohesion in the era. With that being said though, the album isn't bad, it's just not up to Gaga standards AT ALL. She can do WAY better and I know she will. Am I the only one who is worried about similar posts on a FAN forum? I really appreciate that we are not blind and delusional fans in general and we do criticise Gaga's work but sometimes I believe we go too far. I'm sure that all of you who trash ARTPOP would defend it if someone attacks it outside the fan base! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giorno Giovanna 3,178 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I agree to some extent, but it is okay, her next album might be better and perform a lot better...who knows?i just think the music quality wasnt as good as on TFM and BTW このジョルノジョヴァンナ夢がある Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian 19,952 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Some of her best songs to date: Aura, Venus, ARTPOP, Swine, Dope, Gypsy basically, even the weakest ARTPOP song is better than half of BTW I thought you were serious until this sentence. Good luck to find 9 songs on BTW worse than Donatella, Dope or J&D (Oh and please, Dope is not one of her best work to date. The lyrics, the vocals ... You&I is simply better) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloody 64,631 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Get that hit thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimus 298 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Did I just read that Aura, Venus, Dope and Swine are one of Gaga's best songs? The delusion is just The person who said that will be in my prayers. Let me ask Jesus to send help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 25,040 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I thought you were serious until this sentence. Good luck to find 9 songs on BTW worse than Donatella, Dope or J&D (Oh and please, Dope is not one of her best work to date. The lyrics, the vocals ... You&I is simply better) I love the lyrics, vocals, and especially the production, and I do think it's some of her best work to date. And I'm not the only one. So let's not act like it's a fact Happiness will never last, darkness comes to kick your ass... ᵃˢˢ 🕺 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 25,040 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I think Gaga's new manager seems a lot more chilled out and focused on what she wants than her previous one, meaning she can have more creative freedom for her next album. I think he's gay too so maybe he gets ha I was meaning to like your comment until I read the last line Happiness will never last, darkness comes to kick your ass... ᵃˢˢ 🕺 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florian 19,952 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I love the lyrics, vocals, and especially the production, and I do think it's some of her best work to date. And I'm not the only one. So let's not act like it's a fact You can love the lyrics or the vocals, it's all about people taste (for instance, I like the production even if it's not her best one). However, you must admit that the vocal and the lyrics are not her best at all. You can't compare Judas, Marry The Night, ARTPOP, Princess Die, ... lyrics with Dope lyrics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 25,040 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 You can love the lyrics or the vocals, it's all about people taste (for instance, I like the production even if it's not her best one). However, you must admit that the vocal and the lyrics are not her best at all. You can't compare Judas, Marry The Night, ARTPOP, Princess Die, ... lyrics with Dope lyrics.For me personally her vocals on Dope are among her best. Lyrically the chorus might not be her best, but the verses (especially the second) are amazing. But as you already mentioned; it's all about taste. Happiness will never last, darkness comes to kick your ass... ᵃˢˢ 🕺 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPdidntflop 3,987 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I was meaning to like your comment until I read the last line He is gay thought, whats wrong lmao? idgi Gaga x Nicki x Azealia x Ariana x Kesha x Bey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 25,040 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 He is gay thought, whats wrong lmao? idgi Someone has to be gay to "get" Gaga? Happiness will never last, darkness comes to kick your ass... ᵃˢˢ 🕺 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 I think in the grand scheme of things, ARTPOP needed to flop in order for Gaga to step up her game. I LOVE ARTPOP, but the GP clearly didn't, and maybe it would lead to Gaga making an album that would solidify her legacy and improve her reputation. Just think of all the comeback albums that wouldn't have happened if the previous album didn't flop. Confessions on a Dance Floor wouldn't exist without American Life. Light Years wouldn't exist without Impossible Princess. The Emancipation of Mimi wouldn't exist without Glitter and Charmbracelet. Besides, there's always the possibility that ARTPOP would be vindicated by history. Never forget that reputations can change over time. Great post, great point of view ! You are right : ARTPOP's underperformance compared to Gaga's previous works will make her step up her game! Ready for the next era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OBEY 57,109 Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 Think what you want about ARTPOP but don't trash gaga for it. She did her best at the time. I know she is capable of much better. As i said, she is one of her generations' best singer and performer. The fact that ARTPOP underperformed will only make her step up her game. Sometimes, you need to "fail" to regain trust in yourself and succeed after Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTPOPdidntflop 3,987 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Someone has to be gay to "get" Gaga?more often than not, why does she have so many gay and lesbian fans then duh.The GP mostly straights pass off everything she does as crazy and nonsensical Gaga x Nicki x Azealia x Ariana x Kesha x Bey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Adrenaline 1,518 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 It's an opinion thread. Where i stated my own opinion about ARTPOP. I'm sorry you seem to disagree, but i'm even more sorry that it seems you can't even read a post from a person who has another opinion than yours? of course, my opinion is all the matters It's much more fun to have hizophrenia... u never get lonely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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