Valextra 58 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 This tour looks definitely good. I like the majority of costumes and scenography. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagz 2,572 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Oh, Goldfrapp had a song called "I Wanna Ride on a White Horse" and she didn't feel the need to ride a mechanical horse at her shows... ;) There are unlimited things that a creative person can do to channel an idea; here the idea of the horse. And Katy chose this, which is definitely not the most clever thing she could have done in this context of constant Gaga comparisons. There are always many ways to convey an idea. Just because the word horse is in the title doesn't mean you have to use a horse as a prop. I'm just saying it's a very obvious idea, not one that would have to be stolen. You automatically think of a horse when you hear the word horse, so that's clearly where the idea came from. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyoftheDam 4 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Why does it look like a broadway show and not a concert though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 like what? The "perfect storm" metaphor is about rare or odd circumstances that aggravate drastically an event and if she is really a capable of anything and everything then it is not an sporadic event caused by odd circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
juicyjuicy 1,912 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 well the song is called Dark Horse, do you expect to be on a spider or what? crying irl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagz 2,572 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Maybe this one would be more appropriate? Why she didn't have one in a video? Why mechanical horse as a prop for tour, Music videos and performances don't have to match. She used a horse in her Grammys performance. Gaga's performances hardly ever match her videos. I don't see the problem with that. d idn't she think someone else has done it - recently? Why would she think that? I couldn't help but noticing she's sitting on it in a similar way Gaga did on AMA's red carpet There are literally only 2 ways to sit on a horse, and Gaga's done both, so I guess Katy can't win no matter how she sits. and even the outfit/boots are the same color. No they're not. Gaga wore pure white to AMAs. The "perfect storm" metaphor is about rare or odd circumstances that aggravate drastically an event and if she is really a capable of anything and everything then it is not an sporadic event caused by odd circumstances. She's referring to herself as the storm. As in she is the storm who is going affect the guy she's singing to, because she's capable of anything. I don't get how they contrast each other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrewStevens 5,249 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Music videos and performances don't have to match. She used a horse in her Grammys performance. Gaga's performances hardly ever match her videos. I don't see the problem with that. Why would she think that? There are literally only 2 ways to sit on a horse, and Gaga's done both, so I guess Katy can't win no matter how she sits. No they're not. Gaga wore pure white to AMAs. She's referring to herself as the storm. As in she is the storm who is going affect the guy she's singing to, because she's capable of anything. I don't get how they contrast each other. If she is capable of anything then she's just a storm, not a perfect storm. A perfect storm is like an accident, is not meant to be predicted by anyone, including herself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Music videos and performances don't have to match. She used a horse in her Grammys performance. Gaga's performances hardly ever match her videos. I don't see the problem with that. Why would she think that? There are literally only 2 ways to sit on a horse, and Gaga's done both, so I guess Katy can't win no matter how she sits. No they're not. Gaga wore pure white to AMAs. And why would she think that? Oh I don't know, to try to be more original, to try to avoid comparisions with Gaga? It wasn't done 20, 30 years ago. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagz 2,572 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 If she is capable of anything then she's just a storm, not a perfect storm. A perfect storm is like an accident, is not meant to be predicted by anyone, including herself. Oh I see what you're saying. Well, and I'm just thinking of this now because you pointed it out, maybe the perfect storm is referring to love. The guy doesn't expect to fall in love, but after a series of "a rare combination of events," he does. Or maybe she just thought perfect storm meant something that was premeditated, like the perfect crime And why would she think that? Oh I don't know, to try to be more original, to try to avoid comparisions with Gaga? It wasn't done 20, 30 years ago. I got the horse color confused with the dress color. Anyway, why would she care if somebody recently used a horse? Do you think Gaga would dismiss her ideas just because somebody used a similar prop a year ago? No, she wouldn't. And I wouldn't want her to. Why should Katy? Honestly, if people think using a horse in a song in which half the title is "horse" is a stolen idea, they're not thinking rationally. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joaco95 1,631 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 This thread should be closed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 It is very easy to say that " Gaga didn't invent this or that" in order to hide someone's lack of new ideas. If it was performed 20 years ago, I can totally see her putting a mechanical horse on stage (new audience, inspiration). However it was performed 2 years ago + AMA's red carpet. This means two things. Firstly that you don't have anything new to present to your audience and secondly that you don't recognize and respect Gaga as a creative artist which is sad. "Horse" on the title does not necessarily indicate that horses may appear. There is nothing negative in her using the "idea". It is just a shame that Gaga is never recognized for her ideas and we just use the basic quote "she didn't invent it". Well she didn't but she though of it and used it recently and before someone else. It is like presenting an assignment at school by putting all your effort and using eg a website design (it has been done before, you didn't invent it) and the following week your classmate presents his assignment using the same pattern. So either your classmate didn't want to think or didn't have inspiration for the particular assignment. Anyhow, well done to KP's team. This is so well written. Why Katy stans and Katy herself cannot admit that Gaga inspires her? It's not so bad, but you shouldn't be in denial. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagz 2,572 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 It is very easy to say that " Gaga didn't invent this or that" in order to hide someone's lack of new ideas. If it was performed 20 years ago, I can totally see her putting a mechanical horse on stage (new audience, inspiration). However it was performed 2 years ago + AMA's red carpet. This means two things. Firstly that you don't have anything new to present to your audience and secondly that you don't recognize and respect Gaga as a creative artist which is sad. "Horse" on the title does not necessarily indicate that horses may appear. There is nothing negative in her using the "idea". It is just a shame that Gaga is never recognized for her ideas and we just use the basic quote "she didn't invent it". Well she didn't but she though of it and used it recently and before someone else. It is like presenting an assignment at school by putting all your effort and using eg a website design (it has been done before, you didn't invent it) and the following week your classmate presents his assignment using the same pattern. So either your classmate didn't want to think or didn't have inspiration for the particular assignment. Anyhow, well done to KP's team. This is so well written. Why Katy stans and Katy herself cannot admit that Gaga inspires her? It's not so bad, but you shouldn't be in denial. This is the same as saying Gaga should have given credit to Shakira for Mother GOAT, because Shakira used a floating head on her 2011 tour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mills 446 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 That medley of TOTGA and Thinking of You, my top two favourite songs of hers, is EVERYTHING why I love her in the first place. She's at her best whenever she's with her guitar. And from what I'm seeing so far, this tour is her best to date. Her last one couldn't even be compared to this. I've to give A+ for the stage, the props, and the production numbers themselves. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ey6XMmlCBEw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 Shakira just had a screen in head shape, different images from screen. It wasn't any floating head, and it wasn't her face with her voice either. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
danieljsolis 0 Posted May 8, 2014 Share Posted May 8, 2014 :lmao: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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