Judas Oyster 1,914 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 It's not that GaGa can't do it. If she wanted she could perfectly crush the Billboard list. It just seems as if she doesn't care anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Bromance 5,809 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I have this sudden strong feeling that Gaga can at least achieve a total of three/four #1s from her next album while listening to Rihanna's Loud. Singles from Loud which went to #1: First single - Only Girl (In The World), second single - What's My Name?, fourth single - S&M (Remix) It's really not that hard for someone like Gaga to have this achievement, considering all her advantages derived from the Cheek to Cheek impression. I have a lot of faith in her production of music so I'm not going to comment on that, I'm going to comment on just the promotion part of her next era. I think her first single should remain a solo track, and as long as she remains a decent appearance most of the time, it is very possible for her to grab her fourth #1, providing the song is catchy enough and not overproduced, because making sh1tty songs is never Lady Gaga's case, so her only problem is overproduction. Second single, I'd recommend a feature of an artist or several artists. However, I don't mean any artist though, I'm hoping for huge relevant artists like Sam Smith, Justin Timberlake, Beyonce or Adele. You might want to tell me that Gaga is not interested in contemporary artists but you're wrong, that was the case in 2010. It's 2015 now and she's worked with Christina Aguilera, T.I., Kendrick Lamar, will.i.am., David Guetta, and also expressed her interest in collaborating with Britney Spears, plus, she's LADY GAGA, she can work with anyone she wants, I mean it is very unlikely that someone will reject Gaga's phone call. The only person who would do that that I can think of is Eminem. Imagine an all star collaboration, say Gaga, Beyonce, Timberlake perhaps, isn't that a guaranteed Grammy and maybe even Record of the Year? Third single, solo again, but a heavy switch from the sound of the first and second singles. Fourth single, fifth and sixth singles - there must be a #1 coming out from three attempts. I was watching videos on YouTube yesterday and I just realized how easy it is to gain views nowadays:Katy Perry - Roar : 947,000,000 viewsKaty Perry - Dark Horse: 979,000,000 viewsKaty Perry - This Is How We Do: 315,000,000 views (THIS IS NOT EVEN A HIT)Taylor Swift - Shake It Off: 841,000,000 viewsTaylor Swift - Blank Space: 905,000,000 viewsWiz Khalifa - See You Again: 405,000,000 views (non-VEVO account)Mark Ronson - Uptown Funk: 705,000,000 views I was originally impressed by G.U.Y.'s views for garnering over 95,000,000 views altogether considering its underperformance when a top 3 hit like The Edge of Glory has only 86,000,000 views, but it's just the huge market today that's doing the job. Basically what I'm trying to say is that it's almost a guarantee that every Lady Gaga video released in the future will get certified. Do What U Want's video was almost a guaranteed success considering the nature of the video. Also do I have to remind you guys that G.U.Y. garnered over 7,000,000 views in 24 hours? With hardcore monsters like us giving initial support when new music comes out, there is no reason for Lady Gaga to flop. If other artists who don't have a large fanbase like how Gaga has can achieve tremendous success, why can't Gaga? All we need is an interesting thumbnail because we have to admit the thumbnail of a video can make a huge difference of the views it's going to have, Katy Perry's Birthday for example, failed to even get certified because of its boring setting. It's obvious Marry the Night could have gained more views if it had these as its thumbnail: instead of this: or For those of you who value artistry and insist that the makeup and wig and setting should have remained that way, there's nothing wrong with your opinion. But my opinion is that she could have delivered the same message and artistry in a different way, with a more appealing and interesting setting and appearance perhaps, thus introducing the message to more people instead of just little monsters, not to mention when the views are given to the video it will be easily nominated for awards. And recognition is not something bad, isn't it? Don't tell me you don't want Gaga to gain 800,000,000 views. So success in videos is almost guaranteed. One more very cheap way of gaining views is including hot guys and girls, THIS ALWAYS WORKS: Taylor Kinney Casper Smart Sean O'Pry I respect your opinion hun. I agree that if Gaga plays her cards right with choosing the right lead single and dropping the music video a week later or a few days after the single drops can guarantee her a # 1. Tbh, I'm not really worried about her next album because Gaga has gained so much respect from the GP due to her Grammys and Oscars performances and the C2C tour with Tony. People are going to be curious to find out what kind of album Gaga's going to release next so her next era should be really good. If it's not a good era then I'm not going to worry about it either because I know she will continue to release music and she's bound to be successful yet again. I don't care what you think about unless it is about me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Well, there was also no reason for Rihanna's new singles, Madonnas new album or Britney's "Pretty Girls" to underperform and they still did...so I don't think things will go THAT smoothly, specially while Taylor is such an unanimity in the eyes of the media...If Gaga manages to produce one #1, two top fives and two top tens - and believe me, that won't be a simple task -, it would be enough.With that kind of achievement, I would also be very satisfied already but if she really works it out, I think she has the potential to achieve what I've mentioned in the OP.For Britney, Madonna and Rihanna's cases, I do not quite agree with you because Pretty Girls is quite a mediocre and cheap song, not to mention that Britney didn't promote it (a lip-sync BBMA performance wasn't enough), despite the fact that I like it. Rihanna's FourFiveSeconds slayed, Bitch Better Have My Money didn't have a video and American Oxygen lacked promotion, also it's a 5 minute song with quite a dull video. (I like these songs but I have to admit they aren't very beneficial in terms of promotion)Hence, I think all the elements in the OP have to be taken care of when Gags comes out with new music. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 need the first single for AHS Give me Bloody Mary 2.0 I agree. Brooklyn Nights had to be on ARTPOP I don't think Brooklyn Nights is better than any song on ARTPOP. A lot of people including me thought that the song was quite mediocre... it's just like Britney Spears's Perfume. i think it matters if the music relates to people. you think people would dance to Venus at a party? they'd be looking around like wtf. yes, i know you guys love venus, but THEY don't like that stuff and i can see why. she needs something that speaks to everyone. Brooklyn Nights is one of those songs that needs to be on an album What's wrong with dancing to Venus? A lot of people don't relate to the lyrics of dance-pop song, they just care about the melody. Applause was a song about a pop star's life yet many people related to the song cause of its melody and apparently the GP wasn't relating to the song through performing for 20,000 people a night and getting their applause. I personally think only mid-tempo love songs need relatable lyrics. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Bromance 5,809 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Preach Because Ap didn't fare well compared to BTW and TFm, they like to bash it If you don't have hatred, you can see that even AP is a masterpiece What you've stated is so true. I was reading on Twitter today how this one "supposed Little Monster" was exposed when he tweeted that ARTPOP was the best thing he had heard during the listening party, but yet a year later he tweeted that it was the worst album of the decade! I'm sure he would have been singing a different tune if ARTPOP would have outsold Prism or sold as many albums or slightly more than Born This Way. It's quite sad to allow sales and GP perception cloud your own opinion. I don't care what you think about unless it is about me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Bromance 5,809 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 I think she should bring Celine Dion for a cameo next tour for a day Yaaaaasssss!!!! Gaga and Celine on the same stage would be legendary! I don't care what you think about unless it is about me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serendipity 7,821 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 Yaaaaasssss!!!! Gaga and Celine on the same stage would be legendary! I just wish they can collab on LG5, it'll be so epic But considering Celine's husband is ill, she'll be too busy See talent here-->http://bit.ly/2eqeUxK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokyo Rose 1,475 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 need the first single for AHSShe'll still be filming AHS when it starts airing, because it's a whole series.Unless her character dies or leaves,Doesn't look like she'll be starting a new era this year at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serendipity 7,821 Posted June 5, 2015 Share Posted June 5, 2015 She'll still be filming AHS when it starts airing, because it's a whole series. Unless her character dies or leaves, Doesn't look like she'll be starting a new era this year at all. Maybe the lead at the time of the Youtube awards See talent here-->http://bit.ly/2eqeUxK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Ok time for me to express my view of the situationBTW ERA-This era was her biggest risk from every song to every visual to every performance , would have flopped harder than ARTPOP if not for the build up of TF/TFM , so in the BTW era she could get away with doing anything and it would be successful add to that the brilliant heavy promo. Gaga was never a single artist unlike Katy and Rihanna though she did have her moments with JD,PF,BR,Tele and BTW singles that topped charts almost everywhere she was mainly an album girl with BTW selling 1M in 1st week and TF/TFM over 15M during a time albums sold less than 10 (Adele is an exception). Which leaves me to conclude that no one expects much of Gaga's singles even at her peak, the albums would do well but we would just have two very successful singles out of each album (TF-JD&PF) , (TFM-BR&Tele), (BTW-BTW&TEOG , we know why Judas didn't do that well , worst timing , risk as f single choice) even (ARTPOP-Applause&DWUW not immensely successful but impressive for a mismanaged era) so obviously in an era like BTW a fifth single (Gaga's first and only fifth international single, her eras hype would end, the GP who are interested in her already would have the album and a long video released in December off course the song wouldn't do good, it's a risky song to begin with not commercial at all).ARTPOP ERA-Bad Management , Personally you could tell she was stressed, Katy drama, DWUW mess. No need to look further the album is flawless if you disagree I feel sorry for you, BTW did tons better but ARTPOP has more commercial/semi-commercial songs than BTW did from Applause to G.U.Y to Gypsy to MANiCURE. Also you could tell no one was ready for her , the reason Gaga does well with the GP is there is a build up/hype before it , you had TF/TFM hype before BTW and hopefully now before the next one we have the C2C build up and AHS debut so she remains relevant and people are expecting her. Finally a title like ARTPOP and a saying like ARTPOP could mean anything isn't the smartest way to promote an album with bad management to start with.LG5/6 (AFTER C2C&AHS)- We need a new game plan for her singles , seriously I know this is not something important but Gaga can do it without sacrificing her artistry , we need to think Taylor/Rihanna/Katy Single power but with Gaga's sound and how we can achieve that. Her and RedOne need to do the following-Song with a unique and memorable hook (like BR,PF,Monster so on. this was absent on ARTPOP, her hooks are the reason her singles do well)-Song that is relatable like BR and JD everyone has a BR at one point everyone enjoys to dance , Gaga has to cater her songs to an experience we all share unlike SexxxDreams, Venus and Judas where it might be catered more to her experiences / the album can have a mix of both but singles have to be relatable-Song that is not overproduced and not dragged too long-Something new and innovative i'm thinking with endless possibilities imagine the sound of TF meets sound of BTW or sound of TFM meets sound of ARTPOP , try to take pop music in a new direction and remember less is more just try to make a beat that'll stand out forever and is hard to be forgotten something only her and REDONE can do-Proper time release and proper promo I don't need to explain this one2nd single-if the first one does well this one will do well as well (top 5 hit at least with MV)Now how do we make her (3rd,4th,5th single successful) assuming the next album sells really well this gonna be a hard feat for someone like Gaga who people just tune into the beginning of her eras. The next 3 singles have to be more of events than singles , 3rd single would do well if the album hasn't been released but that should be avoided not here for TEOG 2.0 why rush, make this single a new direction as OP mentioned new sound , new video , new Gaga , make it's video an event think outside the box and try to make the third single have to be the best and most viewed video of the era such as Katy's Firework and Dark Horse her third videos are always the most memorable of her eras. 4th single go for a remixed version of the song with a famous celeb , 5th single this has to be a summer smash or no point in releasing it also it should be heavily promoted since she cant pull the same card twice of adding a feature.if she has a song or two that she feels are super risky but can become the next big thing and pay off such as Bad Romance release them as first and second single even if it's a song like judas or MTN give it the 2nd single treatment cause later it will just burn like G.U.Y . This time please listen to the fans Gaga , if we say DITD we mean DITD not Alejandro if we say Scheisse we mean Scheisse not You&I and if we say Gypsy we expect Gypsy not no more singles lol .Next era should end with an album that at least sells above 5M , hopefully 8M , opening week should be above 500k, we need at least one #1 and should aim for 3 at least cause she can trust me she can , we need another video or two with more than 500M views this can easily be done if she does more videos like BR,Tele and G.U.Y. Gaga was the first immensely successful Pop Girl since Madonna , so it's only logical that she can do all of this. Gaga is different yes but you are fooling yourself if you think Gaga isn't a commercial act , if you ask anyone name three pop stars Gaga and Katy are surely to be two of the three mentioned. POP is commercial , Gaga is like a Pop icon , there is no Pop Genre without Gaga. If anyone gives a slideshow on Pop/Pop Culture/Commercial Pop/Mainstream Pop , Gaga is 100% to be there. The way I like to see it Gaga is a classy artistic and inspiring commercial pop artist. If a random artist came out with anything like BTW era or ARTPOP era I would expect them to be under hot 100 a song and wiped into flop oblivion. Why are songs like Alejandro, Judas, MTN in the Top 40 , Top 40 indicates something is mainstream yea as I thought , the reason is cause it's Gaga and nothing more.People who say , you're a bad fan if you care about commercial success can go screw themselves seriously us early fans have had our troubles getting to the commercially successful place she was in during 2009-2011 from song sales to album sales to tour ticket sales. We are not just gonna let people like Taylor and Katy enjoy the title of the best pop stars of our time and the only pop hit makers , excuse me since when was taylor a single artist except till this era. It's time for the world to go back to normal we need Gaga to represent the biggest pop hits of our time and the ones that are to come. How embarrassing is it that a song like Roar or Shake It Off (both amazing songs) will be the highlight of our decade when it comes to remembering pop hits where as back then we had songs like Thriller, Bad, Like a Prayer and Vogue. Pop music shouldn't be basic it should be dominating and superior like Bad Romance , Born This Way and Poker Face.sorry for the long post but this has all been in me for sometimeI just bowed down to you. Please be Gaga's manager. Even your post is so well managed I can see so much light and hope in her next album. I agree to almost everything you said but if you asked me I really appreciated Judas as a single, it is arguably one of my favorite songs if not my favorite in her entire career. I thought it was risky, yes, but Judas wasn't a flop at all international-wise.And I especially agree to and like the underlined paragraph above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 @VERSACE , such a good post. But I disagree about something. ARTPOP is not flawless. It has so many flaws- bad and overproduced songs, messy vocals etc.Also many gems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 I'm sure it has already been said, but if it hasn't - one of the biggest components of a worldwide smash is for the music to sell itself. Yes, promotion from the start of a single's release to the GP is extremely important but that is a power that only huge superstars have. Take Ryn Weaver for example: She released OctaHate on SoundCloud and it blew up because people discovered it and shared it. Not because she had a huge event to precede it.As long as Gaga can release a song that captivates even a music snob's ears than she will have a hit. I am a huge believer in Gaga's expertise so I really think it is more than likely that she will be able to pull this off - especially with RedOne. Those two are a musical power couple. Bobby is also a fantastic manager from what we've seen so far. As long as he can hold the LG5 era together like Gaga's first three eras then I think Monsters are about to have a great year in 2016. I'm really looking forward to next year (maybe the end of this year). A Gaga album/single release is one of the best things you could ask for! You're hot in your avi.And yas I agree to most of your points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 I agree with that. We can't predict anything. But I think that people still have crazy expectations from her.Especially after all this positivity. I feel like LG5 is very very important for her. It will either destroy her and and make her like Christina and Britney.Or it will be really successful and she will keep her "new queen of pop" title.Don't scare me with this, though I'll still stan for her Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 Yes this. ARTPOP is not relatable at all, and imo it's a way too 'girly' album with all the MANiCUREs and **** Like, for example, when I first listened to FROOT in full I was like omfg how does that b---h know my life so well I agree that it was girly as fck. And as a male I feel uncomfortable sometimes singing the lyrics Fashion!, Donatella, MANiCURE, Venus even Applause. I can only sing Sexxx Dreams, G.U.Y., Do What U Want, ARTPOP without feeling like a girl. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted June 5, 2015 Author Share Posted June 5, 2015 It's not that GaGa can't do it. If she wanted she could perfectly crush the Billboard list. It just seems as if she doesn't care anymore. She does. She always does. #OperationCheektoCheek Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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