OPINION: There is no reason for Lady Gaga to underperform for the next one

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There was no reason for ARTPOP to underperfom...

I respect your opinion, but i think that your conclusions are very general. I will say until the very last day of my life that ARTPOP failed because of it's managment. I mean, all this things we do as little managers are usless. 

The only thing i would worry about is the release dates of the singles and album (and that every single has it's MV. DWUW had free road to succed. Unconditionally was flopping, don't have to talk about Britney. Top 5 hit with MV).

I agree with you, but I also feel like a few songs should've been cut from the album, and overproduction was 50% of its downfall. But like you said, even an overproduced album can do well with a big brand name like Gaga and good management. 

[Neal 768]

Give me Sean O' Pry tbh

[Hexxx 2,244]

i think it matters if the music relates to people. you think people would dance to Venus at a party? they'd be looking around like wtf. yes, i know you guys love venus, but THEY don't like that stuff and i can see why.

she needs something that speaks to everyone. Brooklyn Nights is one of those songs that needs to be on an album

[ViviLittleM 3]

need the first single for AHS

[MonsterOfSpain 8,318]

i think it matters if the music relates to people. you think people would dance to Venus at a party? they'd be looking around like wtf. yes, i know you guys love venus, but THEY don't like that stuff and i can see why.

she needs something that speaks to everyone. Brooklyn Nights is one of those songs that needs to be on an album

​I agree. Brooklyn Nights had to be on ARTPOP  

[Fiona Apple 13,006]

Well, there was also no reason for Rihanna's new singles, Madonnas new album or Britney's "Pretty Girls" to underperform and they still did...so I don't think things will go THAT smoothly, specially while Taylor is such an unanimity in the eyes of the media...

If Gaga manages to produce one #1, two top fives and two top tens - and believe me, that won't be a simple task -, it would be enough.

​The fun part is that both 3 had a reason to underperform.1)Rihanna's and Britney's singles just weren't good... 2)Madonna's new album was leaked a month ago and she is not that relevant anymore

[Versace 7,959]

Ok time for me to express my view of the situation

BTW ERA-This era was her biggest risk from every song to every visual to every performance , would have flopped harder than ARTPOP if not for the build up of TF/TFM , so in the BTW era she could get away with doing anything and it would be successful add to that the brilliant heavy promo. Gaga was never a single artist unlike Katy and Rihanna though she did have her moments with JD,PF,BR,Tele and BTW singles that topped charts almost everywhere she was mainly an album girl with BTW selling 1M in 1st week and TF/TFM over 15M during a time albums sold less than 10 (Adele is an exception). Which leaves me to conclude that no one expects much of Gaga's singles even at her peak, the albums would do well but we would just have two very successful singles out of each album (TF-JD&PF) , (TFM-BR&Tele), (BTW-BTW&TEOG , we know why Judas didn't do that well , worst timing , risk as f single choice) even (ARTPOP-Applause&DWUW not immensely successful but impressive for a mismanaged era) so obviously in an era like BTW a fifth single (Gaga's first and only fifth international single, her eras hype would end, the GP who are interested in her already would have the album and a long video released in December off course the song wouldn't do good, it's a risky song to begin with not commercial at all).

ARTPOP ERA-Bad Management , Personally you could tell she was stressed, Katy drama, DWUW mess. No need to look further the album is flawless if you disagree I feel sorry for you, BTW did tons better but ARTPOP has more commercial/semi-commercial songs than BTW did from Applause to G.U.Y to Gypsy to MANiCURE. Also you could tell no one was ready for her , the reason Gaga does well with the GP is there is a build up/hype before it , you had TF/TFM hype before BTW and hopefully now before the next one we have the C2C build up and AHS debut so she remains relevant and people are expecting her. Finally a title like ARTPOP and a saying like ARTPOP could mean anything isn't the smartest way to promote an album with bad management to start with.

LG5/6 (AFTER C2C&AHS)- We need a new game plan for her singles , seriously I know this is not something important but Gaga can do it without sacrificing her artistry , we need to think Taylor/Rihanna/Katy Single power but with Gaga's sound and how we can achieve that. Her and RedOne need to do the following

-Song with a unique and memorable hook (like BR,PF,Monster so on. this was absent on ARTPOP, her hooks are the reason her singles do well)

-Song that is relatable like BR and JD everyone has a BR at one point everyone enjoys to dance , Gaga has to cater her songs to an experience we all share unlike SexxxDreams, Venus and Judas where it might be catered more to her experiences / the album can have a mix of both but singles have to be relatable

-Song that is not overproduced and not dragged too long

-Something new and innovative i'm thinking with endless possibilities imagine the sound of TF meets sound of BTW or sound of TFM meets sound of ARTPOP , try to take pop music in a new direction and remember less is more just try to make a beat that'll stand out forever and is hard to be forgotten something only her and REDONE can do

-Proper time release and proper promo I don't need to explain this one

2nd single-if the first one does well this one will do well as well (top 5 hit at least with MV)

Now how do we make her (3rd,4th,5th single successful) assuming the next album sells really well this gonna be a hard feat for someone like Gaga who people just tune into the beginning of her eras. The next 3 singles have to be more of events than singles , 3rd single would do well if the album hasn't been released but that should be avoided not here for TEOG 2.0 why rush, make this single a new direction as OP mentioned new sound , new video , new Gaga , make it's video an event think outside the box and try to make the third single have to be the best and most viewed video of the era such as Katy's Firework and Dark Horse her third videos are always the most memorable of her eras. 4th single go for a remixed version of the song with a famous celeb , 5th single this has to be a summer smash or no point in releasing it also it should be heavily promoted since she cant pull the same card twice of adding a feature.

if she has a song or two that she feels are super risky but can become the next big thing and pay off such as Bad Romance release them as first and second single even if it's a song like judas or MTN give it the 2nd single treatment cause later it will just burn like G.U.Y . This time please listen to the fans Gaga , if we say DITD we mean DITD not Alejandro if we say Scheisse we mean Scheisse not You&I and if we say Gypsy we expect Gypsy not no more singles lol .

Next era should end with an album that at least sells above 5M , hopefully 8M , opening week should be above 500k, we need at least one #1 and should aim for 3 at least cause she can trust me she can , we need another video or two with more than 500M views this can easily be done if she does more videos like BR,Tele and G.U.Y. Gaga was the first immensely successful Pop Girl since Madonna , so it's only logical that she can do all of this. Gaga is different yes but you are fooling yourself if you think Gaga isn't a commercial act , if you ask anyone name three pop stars Gaga and Katy are surely to be two of the three mentioned. POP is commercial , Gaga is like a Pop icon , there is no Pop Genre without Gaga. If anyone gives a slideshow on Pop/Pop Culture/Commercial Pop/Mainstream Pop , Gaga is 100% to be there. The way I like to see it Gaga is a classy artistic and inspiring commercial pop artist. If a random artist came out with anything like BTW era or ARTPOP era I would expect them to be under hot 100 a song and wiped into flop oblivion. Why are songs like Alejandro, Judas, MTN in the Top 40 , Top 40 indicates something is mainstream yea as I thought , the reason is cause it's Gaga and nothing more.

People who say , you're a bad fan if you care about commercial success can go screw themselves seriously us early fans have had our troubles getting to the commercially successful place she was in during 2009-2011 from song sales to album sales to tour ticket sales. We are not just gonna let people like Taylor and Katy enjoy the title of the best pop stars of our time and the only pop hit makers , excuse me since when was taylor a single artist except till this era. It's time for the world to go back to normal we need Gaga to represent the biggest pop hits of our time and the ones that are to come. How embarrassing is it that a song like Roar or Shake It Off (both amazing songs) will be the highlight of our decade when it comes to remembering pop hits where as back then we had songs like Thriller, Bad, Like a Prayer and Vogue. Pop music shouldn't be basic it should be dominating and superior like Bad Romance , Born This Way and Poker Face.

sorry for the long post but this has all been in me for sometime

[Gagamel 3,410]

As long as the next album isn't as artsy fartsy as ARTPOP, she will do great. The GP isn't here for puking paint and other stuff

[Optimus 298]

@VERSACE , such a good post. But I disagree about something. ARTPOP is not flawless. It has so many flaws-  bad and overproduced songs, messy vocals etc.

[DonatellaV 0]

I'm sure it has already been said, but if it hasn't - one of the biggest components of a worldwide smash is for the music to sell itself. Yes, promotion from the start of a single's release to the GP is extremely important but that is a power that only huge superstars have. Take Ryn Weaver for example: She released OctaHate on SoundCloud and it blew up because people discovered it and shared it. Not because she had a huge event to precede it.

As long as Gaga can release a song that captivates even a music snob's ears than she will have a hit. I am a huge believer in Gaga's expertise so I really think it is more than likely that she will be able to pull this off - especially with RedOne. Those two are a musical power couple. 

Bobby is also a fantastic manager from what we've seen so far. As long as he can hold the LG5 era together like Gaga's first three eras then I think Monsters are about to have a great year in 2016. 

I'm really looking forward to next year (maybe the end of this year). A Gaga album/single release is one of the best things you could ask for! 

[Iwontell 7,312]

​The fun part is that both 3 had a reason to underperform.1)Rihanna's and Britney's singles just weren't good... 2)Madonna's new album was leaked a month ago and she is not that relevant anymore

 

Maybe so, but idk...nothing is certain about Gaga's future. I just don't want there to be any crazy expectations or pressure on Gaga this time around. I mean, with the exception of her debut album, every Gaga release is surrounded by a lot of hype, fans professing impossible achievements and haters praying for her to fail...

[Fiona Apple 13,006]

 

Maybe so, but idk...nothing is certain about Gaga's future. I just don't want there to be any crazy expectations or pressure on Gaga this time around. I mean, with the exception of her debut album, every Gaga release is surrounded by a lot of hype, fans professing impossible achievements and haters praying for her to fail...

​I agree with that. We can't predict anything. But I think that people still have crazy expectations from her.Especially after all this positivity. I feel like LG5 is very very important for her. It will either destroy her and and make her like Christina and Britney.Or it will be really successful and she will keep her "new queen of pop" title.

[Torsoface 3,262]

i think it matters if the music relates to people. you think people would dance to Venus at a party? they'd be looking around like wtf. yes, i know you guys love venus, but THEY don't like that stuff and i can see why.

she needs something that speaks to everyone. Brooklyn Nights is one of those songs that needs to be on an album

​Yes this. ARTPOP is not relatable at all, and imo it's a way too 'girly' album with all the MANiCUREs and ****  Like, for example, when I first listened to FROOT in full I was like omfg how does that b---h know my life so well 

 

 

[GawdGa 1,399]

gags next album is sure to be a bop

esp because redone 

[HEARTHUNTER 7,611]

I've been praying every night... For this album to scalp everyone's little lives and I'm sure it will