Katy Perry aims to release next album in 2016

[Yanko 9,860]

The OP referred to songs played on Pop radio. those are the songs I listed. Katy did not start or revive the trend. It existed every year since at least 2000. 

Some of the songs I listed were also number ones on Urban radio. URBAN radio stations. Therefore, your statement is incorrect and you are wrong. They were urban/pop songs that were played on Pop radio, which is exactly what DH was. 

How can you not understand that these songs and ones stretching back to the 2000s, with artists like JT, Alicia Keys, Ciara, Beyonce, Destiny's Child, Ciara, Usher, etc. were massive hits on Urban Radio? Do you even know what the top hits on Urban radio have been over the past five, ten or fifteen years? 

You can keep saying these aren't Urban songs or hits, but you are wrong. The entire Urban music world and Urban radio disagrees with you. 

​people who say that dark horse had impact are talking about its structure ( which was used multiple times and all of those songs have been well received/hits )

not some random ass 30 second rap verse 

 

[Kacey Elizabeth 900]

​I notice that you have an answer for everything. When you make a point and someone proves you wrong, you find a way to ease out of it by setting specifics. You say that Katy was the first to create a pop/urban collab. Someone proves you wrong. So you elaborate on it and say that she wasn't the first, but she was the first in a long time to do this in a long time. Someone proves you wrong. So you elaborate again and say others did it recently too, but none of them had success like she had. Now you're even claiming that instances of pop/urban collabs weren't even urban and were mixed with other genres. It's clear that you are desperately reaching for anything that can make Katy look good or revolutionary even when there's absolutely no evidence for it. If you have to keep twisting evidence to get the conclusion that you want, your conclusion can't be that credible.

You say you're only 14, so it's clear that you'll be a bit unknowledgable about past music trends and past music in general. Urban music has always been popular to some degree since the 90's (you also seem a bit lost on what urban music really is too) and its always been the go-to genre that pop artists use when they want to gain coolness, an edge, some street cred. Featuring a rapper on your pop song was born and some pop artists even went full-on urban to cash in on the early-late 2000's urban craze. And when pop took over in 2008, we had urban acts doing pop collabs or even going full-on pop to get their success back. It's one of the most cliche trends in music. It's not new, it's not revolutionary and there's a few collabs like this every year.

You also seem to think Katy is some mature, revolutionary artist, but again, you are only 14, so her music may seem like that to you now, but trust me, you'll look at it in a whole new light in a few years, just like I did with music I liked when I was 14. To those of us in our 20's and beyond, we know that Katy makes basic pop music for the young and lyrics like hers are penned all the time by teens. They're not mature, they're just bland, cliche lyrics that have been said many a time.

I never claimed that Katy started/created the trend. Quote me from one of my comments where I said that. I do acknowledge that urban/rap collabs and the urban genre itself were heavily used and popular back in 90s and early-mid 00s in mainstream media with recording artists. However, as you said, in 2008, pop took over and people started doing pop collabs and in overall, people mainstream musical acts turned to pop again. As I said, songs that Whispering mentioned which were released in 2010-2015 weren't urban. Some of them may feautured rappers, but the genres weren't urban or trap. It is a fact that Dark Horse is probably one of the (if not the most) most successful urban/trap and hip hop tracks which features a rapper. I mean, 22 consecutive weeks in top 10 of Billboard Hot 100 and 58 overall and consecutive weeks spent in that chart, 6 million US sales, 4 (consecutive) weeks spent at #1 position of Billboard Hot 100, 9 times Platinum certified by RIAA, over 13 million WW sales, 280 million streams on Spotify, making it the 2nd highest streamed song by a female ever, almost 1 billion views on YouTube/VEVO, most viewed music video by a female on both VEVO and YouTube, 2nd most viewed video overall on VEVO (3rd on YouTube), and so on. Katy brought the whole concept back to the mainstream media, in a day and age where pop and dance are the dominant genres, and she did it with a ACTUAL trap/urban and hip hop song. I'm pretty sure that I know what the urban genre is. We barely heard urban and trap songs on pop and mainstream radios ever since pop and dance took over in 2008. 

You have every right to have a opinion and express it, however, not all people have the same opinion as you. There are many 20 and older people who love Katy her music. They don't only love her because of her personality, but they also respect her as a hard working and talented artist/musician a lot. Some of them are even KatyCats. And for your last point, you probably haven't even listened to Katy's songs and only hear her hit singles which are played on the radio.

[StrawberryBlond 14,672]

I never claimed that Katy started/created the trend. Quote me from one of my comments where I said that. I do acknowledge that urban/rap collabs and the urban genre itself were heavily used and popular back in 90s and early-mid 00s in mainstream media with recording artists. However, as you said, in 2008, pop took over and people started doing pop collabs and in overall, people mainstream musical acts turned to pop again. As I said, songs that Whispering mentioned which were released in 2010-2015 weren't urban. Some of them may feautured rappers, but the genres weren't urban or trap. It is a fact that Dark Horse is probably one of the (if not the most) most successful urban/trap and hip hop tracks which features a rapper. I mean, 22 consecutive weeks in top 10 of Billboard Hot 100 and 58 overall and consecutive weeks spent in that chart, 6 million US sales, 4 (consecutive) weeks spent at #1 position of Billboard Hot 100, 9 times Platinum certified by RIAA, over 13 million WW sales, 218 million streams on Spotify, making it the 2nd highest streamed song by a female ever, almost 1 billion views on YouTube/VEVO, most viewed music video by a female on both VEVO and YouTube, 2nd most viewed video overall on VEVO (3rd on YouTube), and so on. Katy brought the whole concept back to the mainstream media, in a day and age where pop and dance are the dominant genres, and she did it with a ACTUAL trap/urban and hip hop song. I'm pretty sure that I know what the urban genre is. We barely heard urban and trap songs on pop and mainstream radios ever since pop and dance took over in 2008. 

You have every right to have a opinion and express it, however, not all people have the same opinion as you. There are many 20 and older people who love Katy her music. They don't only love her because of her personality, but they also respect her as a hard working and talented artist/musician a lot. Some of them are even KatyCats. And for your last point, you probably haven't even listened to Katy's songs and only hear her hit singles which are played on the radio.

​Well, you certainly seem to be finding a way to answer every single piece of evidence we give. The moment when you said I had made good points about her touring locations was the only time when you just accepted the evidence and didn't try to fight it. But eevry other time, you are trying to find a loophole, some way of making Katy look good. And actually yes, the ones that Whispering posted were urban. Some of them were also a pop song featuring a rapper or a rap song featuring a popstar. It shouldn't matter what way round it is or whether the song is pop or urban, it's doing the same thing DH did. No one I know considers DH to be an urban song, it's a pop song with urban influences and a rap verse. When a popstar makes an urban influenced track, they still get called pop because that's still ultimately her style. DH is the only remotely urban track on Prism and the only properly urban track she's ever done, so no, of course people aren't going to be quick to label it urban. Max Martin, Dr Luke and Cirkut produced that song and none of them are urban producers, they are pop producers. The whole song, much as I like it, is a tryhard attempt at cashing in on the recent resurgance of urban music and the newfound interest in trap specifically. Trap was starting to be introduced in 2012. Trust me, if she had made an urban track back in her TD days, it would not have a trap beat as that wasn't a thing back then. DH is the result of focus group research, that song on the album that's a guaranteed hit to rescue a flopping album.

As impressive as your figures and knowledge are, wheeling them out every time to prove success isn't the best decision. People get annoyed by it and find it very superficial. No one in the public except mega fans on music forums know or care about these statistics. While I know every song and album that's out right now, no one else seems to. No one I talk to knows what the current #1 is or the accolades it has. If I ever do tell them an impressive statistic, they pause and go "...is that good?" The older generation especially don't care about charts and statistics, they're all about longevity and respond with "it's popular now, but let's see if anyone remembers it in 10 years." Your statistics, while impressive, are in one ear and out the other. Ultimately, people don't care how well a song did if they don't like it or don't care about the artist. These statistics only matter to fans.

Pop and dance haven't been the dominant genres for the last two years. In my country especially, music taste is all over the place and lots of different styles are getting crazy success. Urban has made a big resurgance in the last two years and to say that there's been no urban hits since 2008 is just untrue. You can only have based your opinion from the list of #1 hits as opposed to other massive top tens from that time. Not all #1's go on to be remembered either. I'm saying that you don't seem to know what urban is because for one thing, you say urban and trap are two different things. Trap is within the urban genre. Urban music is a general term used for rap, hip hop, RnB and trap. Other forms of "black music" like soul, funk and reggae are regarded separately. Urban is a good term to use when it's hard to pin down a specific song's urban genre. Rihanna and Beyonce have always been hard to classify as their music can be a mixture of lots of different urban influences and pop so calling them urban covers all the bases. Just because an urban song has influences from other genres doesn't make it not urban. Why do you think in pop we have terms like bubblegum pop, pop rock, hip pop and so on? Because there's different ways to do pop that include different influences but it doesn't make them not pop.

Yes, she may have her older fans, but there's not many of them. Katy does not have a fanbase of diverse ages, it's mostly kids and teens, as that's who her music is aimed towards. Anyone over the age of 21 who seriously thinks Katy is an amazing artist...well, I think they just don't listen to any music that isn't spoonfed to them by the media. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but they don't know how to judge quality because they only listen to what's popular. And well, here's where I drop the biggest bombshell: I have listened to all Katy's albums and I actually own the TD re-release. Yes, much as I am critical of her, I think it's a great pop album and I bought the re-release as a reminder of history. I even considered buying her debut (listened to it online and decided against it, though) and even considered going to the Prismatic tour just to hear the hits (was put off when I heard the album and her live vocals, though). In all my time listening to her, I have concluded that she can make insanely catchy pop songs, most of which are very good, but her ballads need work, even though this is the style she prefers. She makes guilty pleasure music, plain and simple.

[darkwolf 590]

Why are people so pressed?

[Kacey Elizabeth 900]

​Well, you certainly seem to be finding a way to answer every single piece of evidence we give. The moment when you said I had made good points about her touring locations was the only time when you just accepted the evidence and didn't try to fight it. But eevry other time, you are trying to find a loophole, some way of making Katy look good. And actually yes, the ones that Whispering posted were urban. Some of them were also a pop song featuring a rapper or a rap song featuring a popstar. It shouldn't matter what way round it is or whether the song is pop or urban, it's doing the same thing DH did. No one I know considers DH to be an urban song, it's a pop song with urban influences and a rap verse. When a popstar makes an urban influenced track, they still get called pop because that's still ultimately her style. DH is the only remotely urban track on Prism and the only properly urban track she's ever done, so no, of course people aren't going to be quick to label it urban. Max Martin, Dr Luke and Cirkut produced that song and none of them are urban producers, they are pop producers. The whole song, much as I like it, is a tryhard attempt at cashing in on the recent resurgance of urban music and the newfound interest in trap specifically. Trap was starting to be introduced in 2012. Trust me, if she had made an urban track back in her TD days, it would not have a trap beat as that wasn't a thing back then. DH is the result of focus group research, that song on the album that's a guaranteed hit to rescue a flopping album.

As impressive as your figures and knowledge are, wheeling them out every time to prove success isn't the best decision. People get annoyed by it and find it very superficial. No one in the public except mega fans on music forums know or care about these statistics. While I know every song and album that's out right now, no one else seems to. No one I talk to knows what the current #1 is or the accolades it has. If I ever do tell them an impressive statistic, they pause and go "...is that good?" The older generation especially don't care about charts and statistics, they're all about longevity and respond with "it's popular now, but let's see if anyone remembers it in 10 years." Your statistics, while impressive, are in one ear and out the other. Ultimately, people don't care how well a song did if they don't like it or don't care about the artist. These statistics only matter to fans.

Pop and dance haven't been the dominant genres for the last two years. In my country especially, music taste is all over the place and lots of different styles are getting crazy success. Urban has made a big resurgance in the last two years and to say that there's been no urban hits since 2008 is just untrue. You can only have based your opinion from the list of #1 hits as opposed to other massive top tens from that time. Not all #1's go on to be remembered either. I'm saying that you don't seem to know what urban is because for one thing, you say urban and trap are two different things. Trap is within the urban genre. Urban music is a general term used for rap, hip hop, RnB and trap. Other forms of "black music" like soul, funk and reggae are regarded separately. Urban is a good term to use when it's hard to pin down a specific song's urban genre. Rihanna and Beyonce have always been hard to classify as their music can be a mixture of lots of different urban influences and pop so calling them urban covers all the bases. Just because an urban song has influences from other genres doesn't make it not urban. Why do you think in pop we have terms like bubblegum pop, pop rock, hip pop and so on? Because there's different ways to do pop that include different influences but it doesn't make them not pop.

Yes, she may have her older fans, but there's not many of them. Katy does not have a fanbase of diverse ages, it's mostly kids and teens, as that's who her music is aimed towards. Anyone over the age of 21 who seriously thinks Katy is an amazing artist...well, I think they just don't listen to any music that isn't spoonfed to them by the media. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but they don't know how to judge quality because they only listen to what's popular. And well, here's where I drop the biggest bombshell: I have listened to all Katy's albums and I actually own the TD re-release. Yes, much as I am critical of her, I think it's a great pop album and I bought the re-release as a reminder of history. I even considered buying her debut (listened to it online and decided against it, though) and even considered going to the Prismatic tour just to hear the hits (was put off when I heard the album and her live vocals, though). In all my time listening to her, I have concluded that she can make insanely catchy pop songs, most of which are very good, but her ballads need work, even though this is the style she prefers. She makes guilty pleasure music, plain and simple.

The ones that Whispering named were pop songs combined with R&B and hip hop (none of them are trap), but we're talking about a trap song having a huge success and dominating the mainstream media which is dominated by dance and pop. I know that Katy is a popster and that Dark Horse is not going to change the fact that she is one, but that's not we're talking about. And Dark Horse is pretty much her only attempt to make urban music (well, besides Who Am I Living For?, which is R&B). Dark Horse is a trap and hip hop track. At first I thought that trap and urban (and all those other genres) were separate but I researched it and found out that they both fall under the same category. Sorry for my mistake about that.

Can you give me a trap song which was released in 2012 and so on and was a success with radios, streams, views, sales, and charts? 

Dark Horse wasn't even planned to be released as a official single. It was first released as a promotional single, and it was a success, so Katy decided to release it as a official single. Katy said that it's success was completely unexpected. Even though pop and dance kind of slowed down in 2013 and more genres were brought back and introduced to mainstream, they still remained the dominant genres. Maybe it became kind of different in UK, but that was/is not the case here in the US. 

How do you know that Katy's fanbase is not that diverse? Have you met every single KatyCat or at least a Katy fan in the world? And just by half of Katy's music being fun, club, and bubblegum dance-pop songs doesn't means that her music is entirely aimed at kids and teens. There are some people over 21 who don't even listen to top 40 music, yet they believe that Katy is incredibly talented and is a amazing artist/musician, but again, you have your own opinion and interpretation of Katy as a artist and her music and others have their own opinion and interpretation of Katy as a artist and her music, too. 

How could you say that songs like One Of The Boys, Thinking Of You, Mannequin, Ur So Gay, If You Can Afford Me, Lost, Self Inflicted, I'm Still Breathing, Fingerprints, I Think I'm Ready, A Cup Of Coffee, Teenage Dream, Firework, Circle The Drain, The One That Got Away, E.T., Who Am I Living For?, Pearl, Not Like The Movies, Part Of Me, Wide Awake, Roar, Legendary Lovers, Unconditionally, Ghost, Love Me, This Moment, Double Rainbow, By The Grace Of God, Spiritual, It Takes Two, and Choose Your Battles are basic pop (some of these songs are not even pop) music with cliche, immature, and bland lyrics for teens that have been said many times (you pretty much generalized her music, so that's why I am saying this)? Those songs are definitely not basic and contain very well-written, expressive, real, personal, deep, creative, and inspiring lyrics. Even I Kissed A Girl, Hot N Cold, Waking Up In Vegas, California Gurls, Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.), Peacock, Hummingbird Heartbeat, Dressin Up, Birthday, Walking On Air, Dark Horse, This Is How We Do, and International Smile are not basic and don't have cliche, shallow, and bland lyrics, as they're inspired by/are about Katy's life, personality, and who she is and are written by Katy herself. They are definitely not just catchy. The only reason they're considered basic by some people is because they were made for radio and charts. And just one more thing, just because Katy has had some rough live vocal moments, doesn't mean that she is a bad live signer/vocalist.

[Navy 495]

The ones that Whispering named were pop songs combined with R&B and hip hop (none of them are trap), but we're talking about a trap song having a huge success and dominating the mainstream media which is dominated by dance and pop. I know that Katy is a popster and that Dark Horse is not going to change the fact that she is one, but that's not we're talking about. And Dark Horse is pretty much her only attempt to make urban music (well, besides Who Am I Living For?, which is R&B). Dark Horse is a trap and hip hop track. At first I thought that trap and urban (and all those other genres) were separate but I researched it and found out that they both fall under the same category. Sorry for my mistake about that.

Can you give me a trap song which was released in 2012 and so on and was a success with radios, streams, views, sales, and charts? 

Dark Horse wasn't even planned to be released as a official single. It was first released as a promotional single, and it was a success, so Katy decided to release it as a official single. Katy said that it's success was completely unexpected. Even though pop and dance kind of slowed down in 2013 and more genres were brought back and introduced to mainstream, they still remained the dominant genres. Maybe it became kind of different in UK, but that was/is not the case here in the US. 

How do you know that Katy's fanbase is not that diverse? Have you met every single KatyCat or at least a Katy fan in the world? And just by half of Katy's music being fun, club, and bubblegum dance-pop songs doesn't means that her music is entirely aimed at kids and teens. There are some people over 21 who don't even listen to top 40 music, yet they believe that Katy is incredibly talented and is a amazing artist/musician, but again, you have your own opinion and interpretation of Katy as a artist and her music and others have their own opinion and interpretation of Katy as a artist and her music, too. 

How could you say that songs like One Of The Boys, Thinking Of You, Mannequin, Ur So Gay, If You Can Afford Me, Lost, Self Inflicted, I'm Still Breathing, Fingerprints, I Think I'm Ready, A Cup Of Coffee, Teenage Dream, Firework, Circle The Drain, The One That Got Away, E.T., Who Am I Living For?, Pearl, Not Like The Movies, Part Of Me, Wide Awake, Roar, Legendary Lovers, Unconditionally, Ghost, Love Me, This Moment, Double Rainbow, By The Grace Of God, Spiritual, It Takes Two, and Choose Your Battles are basic pop (some of these songs are not even pop) music with cliche, immature, and bland lyrics for teens that have been said many times (you pretty much generalized her music, so that's why I am saying this)? Those songs are definitely not basic and contain very well-written, expressive, real, personal, deep, creative, and inspiring lyrics. Even I Kissed A Girl, Hot N Cold, Waking Up In Vegas, California Gurls, Last Friday Night (T.G.I.F.), Peacock, Hummingbird Heartbeat, Dressin Up, Birthday, Walking On Air, Dark Horse, This Is How We Do, and International Smile are not basic and don't have cliche, shallow, and bland lyrics, as they're inspired by/are about Katy's life, personality, and who she is and are written by Katy herself. They are definitely not just catchy. The only reason they're considered basic by some people is because they were made for radio and charts. And just one more thing, just because Katy has had some rough live vocal moments, doesn't mean that she is a bad live signer/vocalist.

​yessssss  educate that they think they know it all prick 

[BlondeQueenOfGGD 25,454]

Dayum!!!!! ^^^^^^

[JustMeJordanT 2]

And just one more thing, just because Katy has had some rough live vocal moments, doesn't mean that she is a bad live signer/vocalist.

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No. She isn't bad; she just isn't very good. She has her limits, a lot of them. She always sings slightly sharp/flat in her live performances and can't hold a note longer than four beats. She does have a good acoustic voice when she plays guitar, but other than that I can't name a performance where I was blown away by her vocals. By the Grace of God at the grammy's was just awful. 

I have a degree in musical studies. I have an ear for this stuff. I can tell when a performer is out of tune and whenever Katy comes on live, I can't take it. There are plenty of other vocalists that are half her age that could sing her off the stage. She has a studio voice that's good for recording, but bad for performing... 

I've noticed that you are very obsessed with Katy Perry. Im pretty sure you have a shrine in your closet dedicated to her. According to you, she can do no wrong... Well she is hated by pretty much the entire music industry because of her attitude and tendency to stab people in the back. I used to adore Katy when I was in high school back when TD first came out. But now, I don't even think that she is the same person she was back then. She used to be cool and down to earth, but now she is as arrogant as it comes. 

[Whispering 18,865]

The ones that Whispering named were pop songs combined with R&B and hip hop (none of them are trap), but we're talking about a trap song having a huge success and dominating the mainstream media which is dominated by dance and pop. 

 

Many if the songs I listed were Urban songs. They were played on Urban Radio and many of them were number ones on Urban radio. You do know that there isn't a radio format called "R&B" in the U.S., right? Those radio formats are callec Urban and Urban AC and many of the songs I listed were played extensively on those formats.

I could also list songs from 2009 and 2009 that were Urban/Rap songs to prove that these type of songs never went away. Would you like a list of Urban/Rap BB hits from 2005 on? Since you were like four or five at the time, you might have missed that these types of songs existed and were big hits during this time! 

The rather sad fact that you didn't know any of the songs listed from 2010-2014 shows that you don't understand that many of those listed songs were Urban songs by Urban artists that were played on Urban AND Pop radio stations. And yes, several of them were number one longer than...or just as long as DH and stayed in the BB 100 just as long. DH did not set a trend, restart one, nor is it the most successful song of its kind. I know you want it to be, but it simply isn't any of those things. 

 

 

[Kacey Elizabeth 900]

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No. She isn't bad; she just isn't very good. She has her limits, a lot of them. She always sings slightly sharp/flat in her live performances and can't hold a note longer than four beats. She does have a good acoustic voice when she plays guitar, but other than that I can't name a performance where I was blown away by her vocals. By the Grace of God at the grammy's was just awful. 

I have a degree in musical studies. I have an ear for this stuff. I can tell when a performer is out of tune and whenever Katy comes on live, I can't take it. There are plenty of other vocalists that are half her age that could sing her off the stage. She has a studio voice that's good for recording, but bad for performing... 

I've noticed that you are very obsessed with Katy Perry. Im pretty sure you have a shrine in your closet dedicated to her. According to you, she can do no wrong... Well she is hated by pretty much the entire music industry because of her attitude and tendency to stab people in the back. I used to adore Katy when I was in high school back when TD first came out. But now, I don't even think that she is the same person she was back then. She used to be cool and down to earth, but now she is as arrogant as it comes. 

Wow, just stop. Don't make lies (like that you have a degree in musical studies) up in order to bring someone like Katy down. LOL. Go and look up her Victoria Secret Fashion show 2010 performance of Firework, 2014 U-Express concert, 2010 Walmart soundcheck, 2010 TNT performances, 2010 performance of Firework at Mario Bath, performances in 2001, 2011 AMA perforamnce of The One That Got Away, 2013 Ellen performance of Unconditionally, 2010 The Dirt performances of Teenage Dream, I Kissed A Girl, and California Gurls, 2011 American Idol performance of E.T., 2011 Grammy performance of Not Like The Movies/Teenage Dream, 2010 Teen Choice Awards performance of Teenage Dream, 2010 performance of Teenage Dream at BBC Radio 1s Teen awards, 2008 performances at the Union Chapel, her performances at the Hotel Coffee, her 2008 Stripped performance of Brick By Brick, 2008 performances of Thinking Of You, One Of The Boys, and Mannequin at KISS FM Sprint live lounge, 2012 Macy's 4th of July/Fleet week concert, 2012 F1 concert, 2012 performance of I Kissed A Girl at the Part Of Me movie premiere concert, 2012 performance of Wide Awake at the Obama rally, 2010 performance of California Gurls on the Today Show, 2010 The Graham Norton Show performance of California Gurls, 2010 performance of Teenage Dream on Letterman Late Night show, 2010 Logie awards performance of Firework, 2010 Paul O' Grady performance of Firework, 2009 MTV Unplugged, 2009 XL106.7 radio performances, 2008 performance at Ugo Raw, 2009 Ellen performance of Thinking Of You, 2008 Paul O' Grady performance of Hot N Cold, 2010 Jingle Ball festival, 2013 We Can Survive concert, 2013 Virgin Mobile Mod Club at Toronto performances, 2013 iTunes festival, 2013 acoustic performances at Hollywood bowl, 2011 X-Factor performance of The One That Got Away, 2013 performances of Part Of Me and Roar at the Infiniti Brand Music festival, 2013 iHeartRadio realase party, and 2013 Alan Carr Chatty man performance of Unconditionally. After you watched all of them, come and tell me that she is not a good live singer/vocalist. Her By The Grace Of God Grammy performance wasn't her best, and she was off during the first verses and some parts of the first chorus, but her vocals progressed throughout the performance. 

"Well she is hated by pretty much the entire music industry because of her attitude and tendency to stab people in the back. I used to adore Katy when I was in high school back when TD first came out. But now, I don't even think that she is the same person she was back then. She used to be cool and down to earth, but now she is as arrogant as it comes." Do you even know how ignorant you sound? The only arrogant person here is you. You are making up false nonsense to prove your invalid argument. How does everyone in the music industry hates her and thinks of her as a backstabbing b**ch? Just because she got her dancers back (by their own will) and inspired Taylor to write a song about a betrayal in a friendship, when everyone with some common sense can tell that Taylor is overreacting about the whole situation? You have no proof of what you're saying and claiming. Katy is still just as down to earth and cool now as she was 5 years ago. The only thing that has changed about her personality is that she is a stronger person, and is more spiritual & enlightened. She is still hanging and working with a lot of people in the music industry for different reasons. You are either trolling or you are just living in a completely different dimension, where the entire music industry hates Katy because of her attitude and the tendency to stab people in the back. In the reality, NOTHING that you're saying is true. You are probably just living in a little fantasy world of yours. 

Stop replying to me.

[JustMeJordanT 2]

Do you know how much I laughed when you came up with the nonsense that you have a degree in music studies? Wow, just stop. You're only embarrassing yourself. Don't make lies up in order to bring someone like Katy down. LOL. Go and look up her Victoria Secret Fashion show 2010 performance of Firework, 2014 U-Express concert, 2010 Walmart soundcheck, 2010 TNT performances, 2010 performance of Firework at Mario Bath, performances in 2001, 2011 AMA perforamnce of The One That Got Away, 2013 Ellen performance of Unconditionally, 2010 The Dirt performances of Teenage Dream, I Kissed A Girl, and California Gurls, 2011 American Idol performance of E.T., 2011 Grammy performance of Not Like The Movies/Teenage Dream, 2010 Teen Choice Awards performance of Teenage Dream, 2010 performance of Teenage Dream at BBC Radio 1s Teen awards, 2008 performances at the Union Chapel, her performances at the Hotel Coffee, her 2008 Stripped performance of Brick By Brick, 2008 performances of Thinking Of You, One Of The Boys, and Mannequin at KISS FM Sprint live lounge, 2012 Macy's 4th of July/Fleet week concert, 2012 F1 concert, 2012 performance of I Kissed A Girl at the Part Of Me movie premiere concert, 2012 performance of Wide Awake at the Obama rally, 2010 performance of California Gurls on the Today Show, 2010 The Graham Norton Show performance of California Gurls, 2010 performance of Teenage Dream on Letterman Late Night show, 2010 Logie awards performance of Firework, 2010 Paul O' Grady performance of Firework, 2009 MTV Unplugged, 2009 Ellen performance of Thinking Of You, 2008 Paul O' Grady performance of Hot N Cold, 2010 Jingle Ball festival, 2013 We Can Survive concert, 2013 Virgin Mobile Mod Club at Toronto performances, 2013 iTunes festival, 2013 acoustic performances at Hollywood bowl, 2011 X-Factor performance of The One That Got Away, 2013 performances of Part Of Me and Roar at the Infiniti Brand Music festival, 2013 iHeartRadio realase party, and 2013 Alan Carr Chatty man performance of Unconditionally. After you watched all of them, come and tell me that she is not a good live singer/vocalist. Her By The Grace Of God Grammy performance wasn't her best, and she was off during the first verses and some parts of the first chorus, but her vocals progressed throughout the performance. 

"Well she is hated by pretty much the entire music industry because of her attitude and tendency to stab people in the back. I used to adore Katy when I was in high school back when TD first came out. But now, I don't even think that she is the same person she was back then. She used to be cool and down to earth, but now she is as arrogant as it comes." Do you even know how ignorant you sound? The only arrogant person here is you. You are making up false nonsense to prove your invalid argument. How does everyone in the music industry hates her and thinks of her as a backstabbing b**ch? Just because she got her dancers back (by their own will) and inspired Taylor to write a song about a betrayal in a friendship, when everyone with some common sense can tell that Taylor is overreacting about the whole situation? You have no proof of what you're saying and claiming, and it's just petty and low. You are delusional. Katy is still just as down to earth and cool now as she was 5 years ago. The only thing that has changed about her personality is that she is a stronger person, and is more spiritual & enlightened. She is still hanging and working with a lot of people in the music industry for different reasons. You are either trolling or you are just living in a completely different dimension, where the entire music industry hates Katy because of her attitude and the tendency to stab people in the back. In the reality, NOTHING that you're saying is true. You are probably just living in a little fantasy and delusional world of yours. And I couldn't have cared less whether you adored Katy or not. 

Stop replying to me.

​How about not. You got really angry there, didn't you? And I actually do have a degree in musical education and I will be attending BYU in the fall to begin studying for a masters. Just because something intimidates you, doesn't mean its a lie. You are a small child in a big world and you have no idea how to live in it. I think you need to realize that Katy isn't perfect like you think she is. You keep posting nonsense about how amazing she is when she is just mediocre at best, just like her song writing. You can lay all of her songs on the same four chords, which by the way isn't a good thing...  You are saying her performances are the best when you are incredibly BIASED to your own side. In order to fully understand and provide an accurate judgement you need to be neutral. In order to prove that Katy is the best, your data can't be just Katy, it has to be others too. Gaga could easily sing circles around Katy any day. Ariana would destroy Katy and so would Christina, Sia, and Jesse J... You are obviously tone deaf. Also, why are you even on a Gaga site if you're just here to promote Katy and bash Gaga? Get a life... or stop existing... either one will do. 

[monketsharona 78,729]

Why are people so pressed?

​because she has beaten Gaga in charts and she could do this again ^^ *

Like always Monsters can't deal with the fact Gaga and her team were responsible of ARTPOP mess, not Katy Perry. With a good promo (and even with Katy beating her) Gaga would have sold lot more and ARTPOP wouldn't have been called a flop.

Monsters should move on. 

[SychosSoChic 9,995]

Some of ya'll are doing the most 

Though tbh as long as Gaga releases that pop that I love, I'm happy since I have faith this time around that she's actually in the right frame of mind to get back in the ring and become Sheezus again 

[Serendipity 7,821]

@KatyCat489 and @StrawberryBlond, guys cut it out

you have been fighting since 3 days in this thread

Let it go, all that matters is we're gonna get new music soon

[monketsharona 78,729]

 

Let it go, all that matters is we're gonna get new music soon

​yeah from both Gaga and Katy.. Who cares who is beating the other in charts