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​So? What does that prove? That an album by an A list start is a bigger target when it comes to critics, compared to a no-one's album?this htread is a mess

Not entirely true. Marina's second album was WIDELY criticized by practically everyone. Everyone said she was over and that the album was horrible.

 

can we see born this way credits? im sure they will be the same

a producer said she credits everyone on the album

 

In fact, the majority of the songs from TF, TFM, and BTW only consists of one, two, or three writers. So I agree with the OP that it's rather upsetting that many of ARTPOP's songs have at least four-five writers.

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Not entirely true. Marina's second album was WIDELY criticized by practically everyone. Everyone said she was over and that the album was horrible.

 

 

In fact, the majority of the songs from TF, TFM, and BTW only consists of one, two, or three writers. So I agree with the OP that it's rather upsetting that many of ARTPOP's songs have at least four-five writers.

How cool, he got some backup.

Both of you can go and cry on Marinaboards, if THAT is upsetting you so much.

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How cool, he got some backup.

Both of you can go and cry on Marinaboards, if THAT is upsetting you so much.

Or, how about all of you stop coming up with comebacks that I usually see from Britney fans online, aka, stuff that children would come up with, and accept the facts. 

 

It's kind of a shame that I post in this thread for the first time and I already get some sassy-ass reply for simply voicing my opinion and agreeing with someone who is currently being bashed for having the same one.

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Or, how about all of you stop coming up with comebacks that I usually see from Britney fans online, aka, stuff that children would come up with, and accept the facts. 

Accept facts? All I see are opinions...

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Accept facts? All I see are opinions...

I posted about the reception of Marina's second album. Look that up. It's extremely negative.

I posted about the extremely small amount of writers on Gaga's first three albums compared to that on ARTPOP. Also true. Look it up.

No opinions there.

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I posted about the reception of Marina's second album. Look that up. It's extremely negative.

I posted about the extremely small amount of writers on Gaga's first three albums compared to that on ARTPOP. Also true. Look it up.

No opinions there.

I could care less about critics. I can decide what music is good or bad on my own. Electra Heart>FROOT

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I could care less about critics. I can decide what music is good or bad on my own. Electra Heart>FROOT

​Exactly. I'm glad there's someone who couldn't give two ****s about those critics. In my opinion, they are just some people with ther own taste and their own way of viewing music, and why would that have any effect on how I see certain song and album. People on this site and other popstar fan sites give so much to those critics, like why are they important? lol

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I could care less about critics. I can decide what music is good or bad on my own. Electra Heart>FROOT

I didn't say anything about opinions. In fact when it comes to those, Marina's first album is my favorite of the three. 

Simply stated the blatant fact of EH's critical reception in repsonse to someone else who said that since Marina is a "nobody", the critics would obviously be easy on her. They obviously weren't easy on her.

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​Both albums are amazing, get a life :yes: 

​Finding a Lady Gaga album subpar = Not having a life

this is what your logic looks like:

 

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Or, how about all of you stop coming up with comebacks that I usually see from Britney fans online, aka, stuff that children would come up with, and accept the facts. 

 

It's kind of a shame that I post in this thread for the first time and I already get some sassy-ass reply for simply voicing my opinion and agreeing with someone who is currently being bashed for having the same one.

You are agreeing with someone who is trolling this forum and has only negative **** to say about Gaga.

It's coincidence that you're both Marina stans, right?;)

You are both proven wrong on previous pages, when you check that most people credited on ARTPOP are CO-PRODUCERS.

Metacritic doesn't mean anything because many times positive reviews weren't taken and many negative ones were just trashing Gaga's personality, not even objectively reviewing the songs. This happened with C2C too. Gaga has more haters, she's bigger, polarizing star and after praising her debut - media wanted to destroy her.

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​Finding a Lady Gaga album subpar = Not having a life

this is what your logic looks like:

 

​Judging people by their music preferences just shows what an ignorant person you are? :shrug:

That's enough for me to see that the argue is over and obviously I won. :bye: 

 

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​Judging people by their music preferences just shows what an ignorant person you are? :shrug:

That's enough for me to see that the argue is over and obviously I won. :bye: 

 

​i'm sorry are you actually stupid, you are literally telling me i don't have a life because i don't think Gaga's album is up there with Marina's (aka MY own personal music taste) and I'm the one judging people by their music preference? idgi, am i missing something here?

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In fact, the majority of the songs from TF, TFM, and BTW only consists of one, two, or three writers. So I agree with the OP that it's rather upsetting that many of ARTPOP's songs have at least four-five writers.

That's because ARTPOP was more EDM than the other albums. It used more sound and synths engineers and more people who contributed to the beats and the overall sound. That's what those people do, that were listed as writers on ARTPOP, they are DJs, synth and sound people.

Therefore, when a major artist with a major label puts out an album that leans more towards electronic dance sounds, they are going to use more sound people than previous albums that didn't have the same focus.

 

 

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