Madonna kisses Drake on stage (and he liked it)

[DogFood 1,649]

​agreed

​And it's not like Madona looks like some old witch.  She's still got it going on. I think it wouldn't be unnatural to be attracted to her. 

[Shaney 5,515]

The basic science of existance of any mammal: you are born, you are raised by your older parents, you grow up and no longer need care, you mate with someone of your age, you have children and raise them until they can care for themselves, you grow old with your mate and die. Sure, a lot of animals aren't monogamous and we don't need to be either, nor do we have to have children or even be with someone of the opposite s-x, but you get the basic idea. The species could not continue if we hooked up with people who were too old/young to produce children. While men may not go through menopause, most do become less fertile over time as their sperm count drops. And as humans, we have the ability to mate for life, so the concept of partnering with someone who may outlive us or die before us (by decades) is illogical. Therefore, we need to stay within our own generations when it comes to dating.

 

Not unattractive because she's kissing someone young enough to be her son? And he's only 10 years older than her own daughter? It would be perfectly legal and acceptable for Drake to be dating Madonna's daughter. Think about that for a minute. If you have an 18 year old, you can't be kissing a 28 year old. 

I guess I shouldn't have said "attracted to." I really should have said: "It's not natural to want to be romantically involved with someone much younger/older than you." And no, I'm not against gays as we're all human and it's never unnatural to be attracted to another human. That relationship is fine because while children can't be produced, it's still a productive relationship. i.e. both people can have a long life together and grow old together. A massive age gap relationship can make the chance of children slim/impossible and it will be short-lived as one side is likely to die much earlier than the other, resulting in heartbreak for the other side. What's productive about such a relationship? How long can you realistically hope to be with someone of a marginally different age, knowing that it will end in disaster sooner rather than later?

​Personally, I'm not interested in dating anyone more than 5 years younger/older than myself (I'd make an exception for a small technicality like 6 years or something, though). I want a person from my generation who can relate to me in lots of ways and we can reminisce about a time that we both came from. I want to feel like the person I'm with is on my level with no inferiority/superiority due to age. I'm interested in the idea of having a child and want to procreate with someone who will be fit and healthy to help me care for a child and will be around for years to come to watch their child grow up. I want to go through middle age together and elderly age together, so we experience the same life changes and hardships. Eventually, if all goes well, we die within a short while of each other. Why would I want to be with someone who feels young enough to be my son or old enough to be my dad? It would feel creepy and I'd be constantly reminded of how different we are.

Also, I've witnessed many age gap relationships either going through strain or ending badly. My own cousin is in a terrible situation with being a carer as opposed to a lover for her boyfriend who's old enough to be her dad (and has kids of his own from previous relationships). He's robbing her of her prime when she could be living a much better life with a guy her own age. I've read many a sad story about women who became young widows and single parents after their much older partner died of old age. It's so morbid. Why would anyone choose this? Don't get me wrong, I can find an older man attractive, but I know where to draw the line. Having an older man cracking on to you feels weird and gives me dad/uncle vibes. So, it's no surprise a lot of people who engage in significant age gap relationships have parental issues as this clearly is something that doesn't concern them and it should.

 

No need to be so dramatic. Would I be a Gaga fan if I was against the gays? Of course I'm fine with gay relationships, for reasons explained above. As long as a relationship has the capacity to be long-lasting, it's worthwhile. Age gaps, however, are a whole different kettle of fish as they go against one of the most fundamental parts of relationships: a long lifespan.

​twas just a makeout sesh, no need for essays

[lego 44,165]

She seems pissed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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She seems pissed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

​More like trying to capitalise on something she and the people in this thread think is a lot bigger event than it actually is. She said on reddit that Sex 2.0 wasn't ever gonna happen but God only knows at this point  

[LoveandMagic 1,731]

She seems pissed.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

​I would say so.

[darkwolf 590]

The basic science of existance of any mammal: you are born, you are raised by your older parents, you grow up and no longer need care, you mate with someone of your age, you have children and raise them until they can care for themselves, you grow old with your mate and die. Sure, a lot of animals aren't monogamous and we don't need to be either, nor do we have to have children or even be with someone of the opposite s-x, but you get the basic idea. The species could not continue if we hooked up with people who were too old/young to produce children. While men may not go through menopause, most do become less fertile over time as their sperm count drops. And as humans, we have the ability to mate for life, so the concept of partnering with someone who may outlive us or die before us (by decades) is illogical. Therefore, we need to stay within our own generations when it comes to dating.

​Homos-xuals also can't have children, we should get rid of them all

As for animals, I don't think they care about age when they mate . But we're not totally like animals, we don't date to procreate and have children, do you?

See, as much as I think the "agism" argument is overused, I think it's sadly a reality. This world needs people like Madonna

[SKANK 14,288]

The basic science of existance of any mammal: you are born, you are raised by your older parents, you grow up and no longer need care, you mate with someone of your age, you have children and raise them until they can care for themselves, you grow old with your mate and die. Sure, a lot of animals aren't monogamous and we don't need to be either, nor do we have to have children or even be with someone of the opposite s-x, but you get the basic idea. The species could not continue if we hooked up with people who were too old/young to produce children. While men may not go through menopause, most do become less fertile over time as their sperm count drops. And as humans, we have the ability to mate for life, so the concept of partnering with someone who may outlive us or die before us (by decades) is illogical. Therefore, we need to stay within our own generations when it comes to dating.

 

Not unattractive because she's kissing someone young enough to be her son? And he's only 10 years older than her own daughter? It would be perfectly legal and acceptable for Drake to be dating Madonna's daughter. Think about that for a minute. If you have an 18 year old, you can't be kissing a 28 year old. 

I guess I shouldn't have said "attracted to." I really should have said: "It's not natural to want to be romantically involved with someone much younger/older than you." And no, I'm not against gays as we're all human and it's never unnatural to be attracted to another human. That relationship is fine because while children can't be produced, it's still a productive relationship. i.e. both people can have a long life together and grow old together. A massive age gap relationship can make the chance of children slim/impossible and it will be short-lived as one side is likely to die much earlier than the other, resulting in heartbreak for the other side. What's productive about such a relationship? How long can you realistically hope to be with someone of a marginally different age, knowing that it will end in disaster sooner rather than later?

​Personally, I'm not interested in dating anyone more than 5 years younger/older than myself (I'd make an exception for a small technicality like 6 years or something, though). I want a person from my generation who can relate to me in lots of ways and we can reminisce about a time that we both came from. I want to feel like the person I'm with is on my level with no inferiority/superiority due to age. I'm interested in the idea of having a child and want to procreate with someone who will be fit and healthy to help me care for a child and will be around for years to come to watch their child grow up. I want to go through middle age together and elderly age together, so we experience the same life changes and hardships. Eventually, if all goes well, we die within a short while of each other. Why would I want to be with someone who feels young enough to be my son or old enough to be my dad? It would feel creepy and I'd be constantly reminded of how different we are.

Also, I've witnessed many age gap relationships either going through strain or ending badly. My own cousin is in a terrible situation with being a carer as opposed to a lover for her boyfriend who's old enough to be her dad (and has kids of his own from previous relationships). He's robbing her of her prime when she could be living a much better life with a guy her own age. I've read many a sad story about women who became young widows and single parents after their much older partner died of old age. It's so morbid. Why would anyone choose this? Don't get me wrong, I can find an older man attractive, but I know where to draw the line. Having an older man cracking on to you feels weird and gives me dad/uncle vibes. So, it's no surprise a lot of people who engage in significant age gap relationships have parental issues as this clearly is something that doesn't concern them and it should.

 

No need to be so dramatic. Would I be a Gaga fan if I was against the gays? Of course I'm fine with gay relationships, for reasons explained above. As long as a relationship has the capacity to be long-lasting, it's worthwhile. Age gaps, however, are a whole different kettle of fish as they go against one of the most fundamental parts of relationships: a long lifespan.

​

 

Gerontophilia (being s-xually attracted to older individuals, particularly the elderly) is as unnatural and unhelpful to reproduction and the furthering of our species as homos-xuality is. 

Being in a relationship with an older individual certainly comes with a unique set of problems and heartaches, but so does being in a relationship with a person of the same s-x. 

You are casting judgement on to relationships which don't meet your personal ideals of what a relationship should be. You are being narrow minded. 

 

[SpadesToStart 3,460]

 

​Yes that is definitely the face of a man who enjoyed what just happened to him.

[StrawberryBlond 14,880]

​Homos-xuals also can't have children, we should get rid of them all

As for animals, I don't think they care about age when they mate . But we're not totally like animals, we don't date to procreate and have children, do you?

See, as much as I think the "agism" argument is overused, I think it's sadly a reality. This world needs people like Madonna

​I've said twice now that homos-xual relationships are fine because the attraction is understandable and the partnership is still productive.

Adult animals don't mate with children or elders. They know the age differences just from sight and instinct (in animals, it's all about generations rather than ages, obviously). You don't see an adult animal pursuing an infant nor do you see a animal who's just reached adulthood chasing after an elder who's near the end of their life. No, we're not totally like animals and I'm not saying we should copy everything animals do but there is definitely some things that they've got right that we've got twisted. While procreation may not be necessary for us, it's still something that keeps our species going and this isn't going to be possible if age gap relationships continue. Not to mention, as soon as a younger person hooks up with a much older person, their potential is practically ended and they can't live a life like someone their own age. So many young women think dating an older man is brilliant when the first few months are all fancy dinners and shopping sprees but after a couple of years, all he wants to do is sit in the front of the tv in his slippers leaving her bored out her mind everyday. Don't get why you'd voluntarily enter such a lifestyle.

 

​

 

Gerontophilia (being s-xually attracted to older individuals, particularly the elderly) is as unnatural and unhelpful to reproduction and the furthering of our species as homos-xuality is. 

Being in a relationship with an older individual certainly comes with a unique set of problems and heartaches, but so does being in a relationship with a person of the same s-x. 

You are casting judgement on to relationships which don't meet your personal ideals of what a relationship should be. You are being narrow minded. 

 

​Surely one of the fundamental parts of a relationship is having it last a long time? No point entering into a relationship that you know for a fact will be short-lived. Short-lived relationships are only ideal if you're not into the idea of romance. But if you are, the idea is to make it last forever. Homos-xual relationships have the potential to last forever, age gap relationships don't. So, what is the advantages of being in an age gap relationship? Name one.

I'm not being narrow minded, I'm trying to make people realise the very true difficulties of age gap relationships and how they rarely work. Just telling it like it is. It's harsh but true. I'm doing it out of genuine concern. Just because I stated my personal ideals doesn't mean I think everyone should follow them too. I was just trying to give a depiction of how a relationship can flourish to its fullest and be the most advantageous for both parties.

[darkwolf 590]

​I've said twice now that homos-xual relationships are fine because the attraction is understandable and the partnership is still productive.

Adult animals don't mate with children or elders. They know the age differences just from sight and instinct (in animals, it's all about generations rather than ages, obviously). You don't see an adult animal pursuing an infant nor do you see a animal who's just reached adulthood chasing after an elder who's near the end of their life. No, we're not totally like animals and I'm not saying we should copy everything animals do but there is definitely some things that they've got right that we've got twisted. While procreation may not be necessary for us, it's still something that keeps our species going and this isn't going to be possible if age gap relationships continue. Not to mention, as soon as a younger person hooks up with a much older person, their potential is practically ended and they can't live a life like someone their own age. So many young women think dating an older man is brilliant when the first few months are all fancy dinners and shopping sprees but after a couple of years, all he wants to do is sit in the front of the tv in his slippers leaving her bored out her mind everyday. Don't get why you'd voluntarily enter such a lifestyle.

​I still have never seen two men or two women capable of making a baby

I'm not even sure what the second paragraph is about....Drake is 28, he's not an "infant".

[Spock 20,290]

[maxthewonderdog 300]

Poor desperate McDonna. She's embarrassing to watch. It's sad to think how low she's sunk, but ultimately, she has no one to blame but herself and her bad judgement. I really didn't think she could sink lower than performing BTW and EY with the finale of She's Not Me nightly on her last tour. But her recent era has proven to be truly cringe inducing.

[SKANK 14,288]

​I've said twice now that homos-xual relationships are fine because the attraction is understandable and the partnership is still productive.

Adult animals don't mate with children or elders. They know the age differences just from sight and instinct (in animals, it's all about generations rather than ages, obviously). You don't see an adult animal pursuing an infant nor do you see a animal who's just reached adulthood chasing after an elder who's near the end of their life. No, we're not totally like animals and I'm not saying we should copy everything animals do but there is definitely some things that they've got right that we've got twisted. While procreation may not be necessary for us, it's still something that keeps our species going and this isn't going to be possible if age gap relationships continue. Not to mention, as soon as a younger person hooks up with a much older person, their potential is practically ended and they can't live a life like someone their own age. So many young women think dating an older man is brilliant when the first few months are all fancy dinners and shopping sprees but after a couple of years, all he wants to do is sit in the front of the tv in his slippers leaving her bored out her mind everyday. Don't get why you'd voluntarily enter such a lifestyle.

 

​Surely one of the fundamental parts of a relationship is having it last a long time? No point entering into a relationship that you know for a fact will be short-lived. Short-lived relationships are only ideal if you're not into the idea of romance. But if you are, the idea is to make it last forever. Homos-xual relationships have the potential to last forever, age gap relationships don't. So, what is the advantages of being in an age gap relationship? Name one.

I'm not being narrow minded, I'm trying to make people realise the very true difficulties of age gap relationships and how they rarely work. Just telling it like it is. It's harsh but true. I'm doing it out of genuine concern. Just because I stated my personal ideals doesn't mean I think everyone should follow them too. I was just trying to give a depiction of how a relationship can flourish to its fullest and be the most advantageous for both parties.

​

Reproduction and the fairy tale myth of eternal love may be driving factors in what you personally are looking for in a relationship, but not everyone else is looking for those things. That doesn't mean their relationship is less valid then yours. 

The "advantage" of a person who is s-xually attracted to older individuals entering into a relationship where there is an age-gap is the fulfillment of their personal desires. The satisfaction and joy they would attain by being in that "unnatural" relationship is the "advantage." 

You seem to have a very limited view of romance, love, and relationships. I don't know if there is anything I can say to change that. Read a little more and experience a little more, and hopefully you will develop a less myopic view of what it means to be in a fulfilling relationship.

[Psychedelic 1,098]

Disgusting. Drake's flirting with her on Twitter was clearly just fun an games but Madonna takes it seriously which really shows how out of touch she is. Why would Drake be into a 56-year-old mother of four when he's got pretty women his own age like Nicki Minaj around him? Madonna seems to think she's still irresistable to all men and it's severely off-putting considering her age and life status. If an older man had done this to a young woman, there would have been an uproar. Imagine this situation, only it's Mick Jagger forceibly kissing Taylor Swift. It's not so funny now, is it? It would be called creepy and lecherous and classed as s-xual assult. Just the thought of kissing someone old enough to be my parent in such a provocative way makes my skin crawl.

This isn't being ageist either - it's not natural to be s-xually attracted to someone who's so much older/younger than you. It's basic science. Staying within your own age group is vital to our species. I don't agree with people who insist age is just a number when it comes to partnerships. Age is everything when one of you can't concieve children because you've reached the menopause. Age is everything when one of you dies years before the other and leaves your partner heartbroken and potentially a single parent to a child who will never remember their deceased mum/dad. People who routinely date far older/younger than themselves clearly have issues if this kind of stuff doesn't cross their mind or bother them.

​Writing thousands of long-ass essays will not make your opinion a science. You need to stop, seriously embarrasing yourself by being yet again so narrow-minded!

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