lego 44,165 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I have the same beliefs as you do towards converts, but you cannot say that all of them are/were converts... and you said "convert to an arab" and I meant that you cannot just convert to an arab because arab is a nationality which requires to be born inside the country yes people can convert to islam but not to an arab. Most of the ones that returned weren't converts either, and if they have doubts they can get blood tests. My family got blood tests, and we're almost pure Jewish with some mixes of Phoenician. For myself I can say that I am a descendant of Abraham, but converts cannot, you are right. Yes of course but I was just comparing. Because a Jew nowdays is both religion and ethnicity. So my point was that the converts to Judaism cannot claim they're originally from Israel. And they were the ones who first moved there before WW2 with an intention to create a state. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemiya 61 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Yes of course but I was just comparing. Because a Jew nowdays is both religion and ethnicity. So my point was that the converts to Judaism cannot claim they're originally from Israel. And they were the ones who first moved there before WW2 with an intention to create a state.Yes, but you have to remember that they did need a state. They had just been ethnic cleansed and had no where else to go besides what they thought was their Promised Land which was not. But you need to remember there were full blooded Jews living in Israel before it was a state. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 But you need to remember there were full blooded Jews living in Israel before it was a state.Yes I know, it's true. Well what's done is done, fastforward to today, I don't think they should move out or go back to Russia, USA or Germany. I think they should stop with the settlements and try to work on 2 states. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemiya 61 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Yes I know, it's true. Well what's done is done, fastforward to today, I don't think they should move out or go back to Russia, USA or Germany. I think they should stop with the settlements and try to work on 2 states. I fully agree with you, both sides need to try, at least try, to work it out. No more blood needs to be spilled on any side anymore, it's completely unnecessary. Yeah I don't agree with what Khazars did, but please know they don't represent people like me, the real Jews. My philosophy has changed in the last 6 months hopefully you can notice Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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