lego 44,165 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 I'm liar but you can't even get the age of Hadrian's rule right. Go check the Bible by yourself. Yes the region was called like that (before and after Hadrian), not the country, same can be said that independent country of Israel never existed till 1948. Both Jews and Arabs from Middle East are descedants from Abraham, but not Khazars, people who converted to Judaism as Jewish encyclopedia states. Those European Yiddish speaking Jews who migrated to Palestine had nothing to do with Jews there, not culture, not language, not even way of dressing, except the religion. Muslims don't claim that European, Asian and African Muslims become Arabs with conversion to Islam. You are a walking contradiction Ross. You know there is something called enhancing of colors. HQ This is actually reconstruction of Pomponius Mela's world map by Konrad Miller (1898) Pomponius Mela, who wrote around AD 43, was the earliest Roman geographer. He was born in Tingentera (now Algeciras) and died c. AD 45. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pomponius_Mela FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 3, 2015 Share Posted April 3, 2015 All these maps show is a Region ... Including a few now extinct peoples. Judea and Palestine seem to be on top of each other, yet only Palestina is 'recognized' by the Arab side.Arabs are not denying Jewish presence there, they lived side by side for ages. But Jews were never majority and of course European Zionists were seen as invaders, they took their land and expelled 700000 Palestinian Arabs. Why would anyone accept that? FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 More twisting historical events to paint Muslim Arabs as victims.....pretty transparent to objective readers. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 More twisting historical events to paint Muslim Arabs as victims.....pretty transparent to objective readers. Are you a new born Christian by any chance? I don't think you are objective reader at all, but you're quite transparent.:) It's obvious from your posts. I posted up there timeline and Jewish sources. But I guess they're not objective to you either. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woolfsmck 2,763 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Are you a new born Christian by any chance? I don't think you are objective reader at all, but you're quite transparent.:) It's obvious from your posts. I posted up there timeline and Jewish sources. But I guess they're not objective to you either. Me or my personal life is none of you concern. I have little regard for your opinion in this matter as well. like a cat in a sil, I observe life, moving and still. My words give a clue,look inside to see whats true Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 just don't try so hard with that "twisting historical facts" without anything to back you up. FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemiya 61 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 just don't try so hard with that "twisting historical facts" without anything to back you up. Same goes for you, you literally posted EDITED bible scripts to change "Land of Israel" to "palestina" yeah right, the word didn't even exist yet when the Torah was written in Babylon by Jewish slaves. You are the contradiction here. I never once said European muslims are all subject to forceful "arab conquests". I said Turkish, and I didn't say "all" that wasn't a lie. It's a known fact which you want to keep denying. Turks forced it on the majority of the Balkans when they conquered them for the Ottoman Empire and the other people didn't want to be Christian minorities so they converted to fit in with the rest. This arguing with you gets so boring so fast because all you literally do is post absolutely anything negative towards Jews and Israel, even if it's wrong, which it is, most of the time. And memes? Really? Memes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemiya 61 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 More twisting historical events to paint Muslim Arabs as victims.....pretty transparent to objective readers.Welcome to the world of mrs. lego, where arabs and muslims have always been victims by the zionists!!!11111!1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Same goes for you, you literally posted EDITED bible scripts to change "Land of Israel" to "palestina" yeah right, the word didn't even exist yet when the Torah was written in Babylon by Jewish slaves. You are the contradiction here. I never once said European muslims are all subject to forceful "arab conquests". I said Turkish, and I didn't say all" that wasn't a lie. It's a known fact which you want to keep denying. Turks forced it on the majority of the Balkans when they conquered them for the Ottoman Empire and the other people didn't want to be Christian minorities so they converted to fit in with the rest. This arguing with you gets so boring so fast because all you literally do is post absolutely anything negative towards Jews and Israel, even if it's wrong, which it is, most of the time. And memes? Really? Memes? Why would Western Christians edit the bible tho? How it benefits them? "Turks forced it on the majority of the Balkans when they conquered them for the Ottoman Empire and the other people didn't want to be Christian minorities so they converted to fit in with the rest." Dude I don't think you can find all Balkan countries on the map, let alone claim something like this. Muslims were minority then and they are minority now. You don't know anything about Balkan history. And nice that you skipped my quotes about the Jews in Ottoman Balkan and Israeli role in genocide of Bosnian Muslims;) FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemiya 61 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I'm liar but you can't even get the age of Hadrian's rule right. Go check the Bible by yourself. Yes the region was called like that (before and after Hadrian), not the country, same can be said that independent country of Israel never existed till 1948. Both Jews and Arabs from Middle East are descedants from Abraham, but not Khazars, people who converted to Judaism as Jewish encyclopedia states. Those European Yiddish speaking Jews who migrated to Palestine had nothing to do with Jews there, not culture, not language, not even way of dressing, except the religion. Muslims don't claim that European, Asian and African Muslims become Arabs with conversion to Islam. 1. You seriously can't read. I said Jews whose family bloodline did not convert to the religion can trace their heritage to Abraham. It can be verified by simple DNA blood tests. Second time saying this. 2. Lol, "Israel never existed till 1948" but yet the Old and New Testaments that name it Land of Israel = nonexistent. 3. You can't "convert" to an arab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Throwback:)Shimon Peres, apologize for Israel's enablement of the Rwandan and Serbian genocideshttp://www.haaretz.com/opinion/1.639032Serbian-Israeli relations flourish, as if the 1990s never happenedhttp://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.633052 FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemiya 61 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 Why would Western Christians edit the bible tho? How it benefits them? "Turks forced it on the majority of the Balkans when they conquered them for the Ottoman Empire and the other people didn't want to be Christian minorities so they converted to fit in with the rest." Dude I don't think you can find all Balkan countries on the map, let alone claim something like this. Muslims were minority then and they are minority now. You don't know anything about Balkan history. And nice that you skipped my quotes about the Jews in Ottoman Balkan and Israeli role in genocide of Bosnian Muslims;) I didn't "skip" anything lmao, I have not read about that, but I will, thanks for pointing it out. Actually, I could name and identify almost every single country on a map on this planet, but ok whatever makes you happy Don't act like muslims never took place in Jewish genocide. "Palestinians" role in the Holocaust? Why'd you skip that one, Jan? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 1. You seriously can't read. I said Jews whose family bloodline did not convert to the religion can trace their heritage to Abraham. It can be verified by simple DNA blood tests. Second time saying this. 2. Lol, "Israel never existed till 1948" but yet the Old and New Testaments that name it Land of Israel = nonexistent. 3. You can't "convert" to an arab. 1. I said it's not possible that every Jew can trace their lineage back to ME. You said yes they can. Khazars/Ashkenazis are not small in number. If you admit that the Zionists who first migrated are converts what rights do they have for that land? 2. Land of Israel of tribe of Israel/banu Israil not an independent state;) Does it write also you can come back 3000 after with all the converts and massacre those who lived there for centuries? 3. Duh. Same way you cannot convert to Judaism and claim you're suddenly descedant of Abraham. Yet those Jews have "right to return". FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lego 44,165 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 I didn't "skip" anything lmao, I have not read about that, but I will, thanks for pointing it out. Actually, I could name and identify almost every single country on a map on this planet, but ok whatever makes you happy Don't act like muslims never took place in Jewish genocide. "Palestinians" role in the Holocaust? Why'd you skip that one, Jan? I just watched a documentary on that. I'll try to find it online it's interesting. I won't skip it, I promise. .. About that earlier, here are the links http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Turkey.html http://www.jerusalemonline.com/israel-history/ottoman-empire-a-safe-haven-for-jewish-refugees-5797 https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/Sephardim.html FreePalestine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandemiya 61 Posted April 4, 2015 Share Posted April 4, 2015 1. I said it's not possible that every Jew can trace their lineage back to ME. You said yes they can. Khazars/Ashkenazis are not small in number. If you admit that the Zionists who first migrated are converts what rights do they have for that land? 2. Land of Israel of tribe of Israel/banu Israil not an independent state;) Does it write also you can come back 3000 after with all the converts and massacre those who lived there for centuries? 3. Duh. Same way you cannot convert to Judaism and claim you're suddenly descedant of Abraham. Yet those Jews have "right to return". I have the same beliefs as you do towards converts, but you cannot say that all of them are/were converts... and you said "convert to an arab" and I meant that you cannot just convert to an arab because arab is a nationality which requires to be born inside the country yes people can convert to islam but not to an arab. Most of the ones that returned weren't converts either, and if they have doubts they can get blood tests. My family got blood tests, and we're almost pure Jewish with some mixes of Phoenician. For myself I can say that I am a descendant of Abraham, but converts cannot, you are right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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