Yanko 9,860 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I'm sorry but '4' was more successful than ARTPOP.1,95M copies VS 3M+even if we believe in the myth that ap sold 2.5 3m is still more than 2.5 shipments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 You guys act like Beyonce never gets any criticism yet Navy, Britney's stans and a whole bunch of other pressed fanbases are forever criticizing her and call he overrated which doesn't make sense because if she's getting all this hate, then how is she overrated and perfect? And Beyonce herself acknowledges her flaws. The only time Beyonce was universally loved was during I Am... Sasha Fierce era. And all of your faves have had a time when everybody was loving them. So this "no one is allowed to criticize her" thing is so false. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 even if we believe in the myth that ap sold 2.5 3m is still more than 2.5 shipments Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 it received criticism because it's godly? No. It received criticism because everyone hates on Gaga for her own confidence ("SHE'S SO PRETENTIOUS HOW DARE SHE USE ART IN A TITLE FOR AN ALBUM!!!!") and because when ever she slips up commercially or critically they'll turn their back on her but love her when she's selling well and getting praise.And not to mention, there's certain fans like you who base the quality of something on how much it sold (for example: this comment and your others in this thread). ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echo 327 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 She's queen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune 156 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 It did receive a lot of criticism. Some articles were saying her career was over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Cause her fanbase acts like 4 didn't flop, not like a certain one. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neptune 156 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 I'm sorry but '4' was more successful than ARTPOP.1,95M copies VS 3M+Almost 2 years difference between their release. It means at least 15% less copies sold, because of piracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Child 18,997 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 You guys act like Beyonce never gets any criticism yet Navy, Britney's stans and a whole bunch of other pressed fanbases are forever criticizing her and call he overrated which doesn't make sense because if she's getting all this hate, then how is she overrated and perfect? And Beyonce herself acknowledges her flaws. The only time Beyonce was universally loved was during I Am... Sasha Fierce era. And all of your faves have had a time when everybody was loving them. So this "no one is allowed to criticize her" thing is so false. no one as no one from the GP. ‘If religion be the cause of disunity, then irreligion is surely to be preferred.’ ‘Abdu’l-Bahá Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 No. It received criticism because everyone hates on Gaga for her own confidence ("SHE'S SO PRETENTIOUS HOW DARE SHE USE ART IN A TITLE FOR AN ALBUM!!!!") and because when ever she slips up commercially or critically they'll turn their back on her but love her when she's selling well and getting praise.And not to mention, there's certain fans like you who base the quality of something on how much it sold (for example: this comment and your others in this thread). lol no i dislike ARTPOP because it has a lot of fillers no because it sold 2 million copies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benji 20,113 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 People came for Beyoncé when 4 didn't do as well as expected. I think most people forget that Beyoncé wasn't as hyped up before her super bowl etc as she is now. It took months and months of teasers and rebuilding of her brand to be this big. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorothy Gale 7,575 Posted March 29, 2015 Author Share Posted March 29, 2015 Almost 2 years difference between their release. It means at least 15% less copies sold, because of piracy. Was Spotfiy around during 4 era? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropico 4,145 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 no one has, no one from the GP. So do you just chose to read certain replies because... It did receive a lot of criticism. Some articles were saying her career was over. lol no And it just happens that you're another one of those people who constantly use sales as a measure of quality? Like how you drag ARTPOP but then praise TFM and it's great sales. Hm. People came for Beyoncé when 4 didn't do as well as expected. I think most people forget that Beyoncé wasn't as hyped up before her super bowl etc as she is now. It took months and months of teasers and rebuilding of her brand to be this big. Preach ST is only when people started loving Bey again. ♢ Social Justice Enthusiast ♢ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 So do you just chose to read certain replies because... And it just happens that you're another one of those people who constantly use sales as a measure of quality? Like how you drag ARTPOP but then praise TFM and it's great sales. Hm. Preach ST is only when people started loving Bey again. where the **** did i use sales ? receipts? and i've said that the fame is her worst album (her best selling album) you're just throwing out arguments Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychedelic 1,098 Posted March 29, 2015 Share Posted March 29, 2015 Because Beyonce was always only 'very successful' before 4. Gaga was a 'phenomenon' before ARTPOP, thus the downhill was more notorious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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