JustPokeHerFace 2,564 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Well you said "sold". Sales isn't the same thing as controversy.And as for Hot 100, doesn't mean that it sold more if it's higher. Maybe there were less releases during Judas.https://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinumdata.php?content_selector=gold-platinum-searchable-databaseUncle is certified platinum whereas Judas doesn't have any certifications.Although you are correct in saying that Unconditionally outsold Judas in the US, RIAA certifications aren't an accurate way to measure that due to the fact that they have to be purchased. A lot of Gaga's songs and albums are behind in certifications (for example, BTW sold 4m copies in the US but still has yet to be even certified platinum). Nielsen Soundscan numbers are a more accurate measurement, as they actually track sales. According to Nielsen Soundscan Judas has sold 942,000 copies in the US as of August 2013, whereas Unconditionally has sold 1,200,000 copies in the US as of January 2015. Judas sales: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/5657799/ask-billboard-whos-sold-more-katy-perry-or-lady-gagaUnconditionally sales: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6450846/ask-billboard-controversial-hits-katy-perrys-sales-taylor-swifts?page=0%2C1 OT: Both artists have 2 peaks IMO, statistical peaks and overall fame peaks. Gaga peaked statistically with The Fame, but felt biggest during TFM/early BTW.Katy statistically peaked at Teenage Dream, but felt the biggest during Prism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ladey Gagz 2,512 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Although you are correct in saying that Unconditionally outsold Judas in the US, RIAA certifications aren't an accurate way to measure that due to the fact that they have to be purchased. A lot of Gaga's songs and albums are behind in certifications (for example, BTW sold 4m copies in the US but still has yet to be even certified platinum). Nielsen Soundscan numbers are a more accurate measurement, as they actually track sales. According to Nielsen Soundscan Judas has sold 942,000 copies in the US as of August 2013, whereas Unconditionally has sold 1,200,000 copies in the US as of January 2015. Judas sales: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/5657799/ask-billboard-whos-sold-more-katy-perry-or-lady-gaga Unconditionally sales: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6450846/ask-billboard-controversial-hits-katy-perrys-sales-taylor-swifts?page=0%2C1 Oh really? Thanks for correcting me I thought RIAA was an accurate source Thanks for educating me I always love learning new things about sales Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustPokeHerFace 2,564 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Oh really? Thanks for correcting me I thought RIAA was an accurate source Thanks for educating me I always love learning new things about sales Yeah, two factors make it pretty inaccurate for tracking sales: the fact that certifications have to be purchased by the label instead of being added automatically, and the fact that streaming is now taken into account when songs are certified, which is why Bad Romance has a RIAA diamond certification even though it's only sold 5.6 million copies in the US. And NP, the music charts are an interesting topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willmcclure72 34 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I feel like PRISM is katy peak?? At least in terms of celebrity status Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsideOutright 1,118 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Gaga: Early-mid BTW eraKaty: Prism era Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
InsideOutright 1,118 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Here is what you get when typing both artists in Google trends. Gaga is the blue line, Katy is the red line. http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=lady gaga%2C katy perry&cmpt=q&tz= Katy's peak (in terms of Google searches) was September 2010, just after the release of TD. February 2015 was a very close second with the Super Bowl performance. Gaga's peak on this chart is March 2010 (TFM era) and the corresponding headline for this peak is "Lady Gaga Sued By Producer"... Her second-highest peak was in December 2009, no doubt because of Bad Romance. Katy and Gaga were very close to each other from 2012-July 2013 except for a couple peaks from their 2012 singles. Gaga beat Katy in August 2013, but Katy outsearched Gaga for every month since September 2013. The blue line makes me awfully sad. Fun little thing to do for your favorite pop culture item, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ByeBye49 161 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Gags - End of TFMKaty - Teenage Dream Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Unconditionally sold less than Judas. Roar and Dark Horse were big radio hits, but the album sold less than Teenage Dream.ACTUALLY no it sold more than judas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yanko 9,860 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 gaga-TFMkaty-teenage dream gagas peak was bigger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 We haven't seen Gaga's peak yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 TFM was Gaga's peak. TD was bigger than TFM Katy's peak and it's bigger than TFM era I think! But both are great! Don't make me choose! Just no Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic 1,415 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 For Gaga it was TFM era, Id say especially the Telephone period,she was huge and everyone were blown away by her video. When Alejandro controversy came things started to go in downward trend, to reach deep low with Judas. So TEOG was actually the new begining of Gaga imho.for Katy I think it was the beggining of Prism era. People started to really recognize her and she scored two 800M+ videos on vevo, for singles which had monster sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Here is what you get when typing both artists in Google trends. Gaga is the blue line, Katy is the red line. http://www.google.com/trends/explore#q=lady gaga%2C katy perry&cmpt=q&tz= Katy's peak (in terms of Google searches) was September 2010, just after the release of TD. February 2015 was a very close second with the Super Bowl performance. Gaga's peak on this chart is March 2010 (TFM era) and the corresponding headline for this peak is "Lady Gaga Sued By Producer"... Her second-highest peak was in December 2009, no doubt because of Bad Romance. Katy and Gaga were very close to each other from 2012-July 2013 except for a couple peaks from their 2012 singles. Gaga beat Katy in August 2013, but Katy outsearched Gaga for every month since September 2013. The blue line makes me awfully sad. Fun little thing to do for your favorite pop culture item, though. Wow they still be very close . I didn't know that Gaga's career >> Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haroon 49,685 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I find it hard to give a concrete answer as to what Katy's peak is because she did amazingly with singles and albums during Teenage Dream, but she's kicking ass with her humungous tour during PRISM I think after the tour's over we'll be able to collate facts and numbers and come to a more agreed answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Monster Kid 13,140 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I came here to say the same thing. I just want to remind that Gaga's peak was on MJ's/Britney's/Madonna's peak level of epicness/media attention. Katy sold a lot, but the cultural and mediatic impact is not even comparable.Yes yes yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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