Admin 24,441 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 NEVER.This is all shipments. Shipments is sales. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Believe what you want.I believe what I want.For me numbers from the others are shipments, that's all.End of the discussion tbhI believe actual professional music organizations and publications. The music industry trusts and relies on those same organizations.They don't look to two guys in their basement, running a site for a hobby, as a legitimate source. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 Shipments is sales.Yes but for the retailers,not for music buyers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Born This Way sold more than 8 millions copies, The Fame more than 15 millions, TFM 7,9 millions and ARTPOP more than 2,8M… and then you woke up ps: the decay My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 NEVER.This is all shipments.And guys... Mediatraffic is more reliable than all of your estimations and numbers. Media traffic is not more reliable then record labels and professional publications and organizations. These numbers aren't coming from a fan site, they are coming from industry insiders and professionals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Unicorn 82 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Guys, please, see the difference between inflated shipment numbers and real sales.ARTPOP: 744k (USA) + 210k (UK) + 200k (Japan) + 35k (Italy) + 65k (France) + 12k (Spain) + 5k (South Korea) + 90k (Canada) + 65k (Brazil) + 30k (Australia) + 50k+ (Germany) + 150k other certified sales (Argentina, Austria, Colombia, Finland, Hungary, Mexico, Poland, Sweden, Switzerland) = 1.656M copies. So... How can it sold 1.144M copies outside of the biggest coutries? 1.95M is the right number. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 Media traffic is not more reliable then record labels and professional publications and organizations. These numbers aren't coming from a fan site, they are coming from industry insiders and professionals. "record labels and professional publications and organizations" always post SALES yes but sales for the retailersnot the real sales, albums bought by people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighwayGuy 1,498 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 If ARTPOP was treated right with the proper promo and singles it could be at 4 million+ WW And I can't believe C2C is nearly at 1 million! Gaga is SO not over, and fans who say she is are a mess Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 I am sure they are totally wrong for TFM those are just for the EP alone The Fame alone sold like 8 million copies but with TFM combined it is at 14.5 million so TFM deluxe sold like 6.5 million and the E.P 1.9 million My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViviLittleM 3 Posted March 15, 2015 Author Share Posted March 15, 2015 Guys, please, see the difference between inflated shipment numbers and real sales.ARTPOP: 744k (USA) + 210k (UK) + 200k (Japan) + 35k (Italy) + 65k (France) + 12k (Spain) + 5k (South Korea) + 90k (Canada) + 65k (Brazil) + 30k (Australia) + 50k+ (Germany) + 150k other certified sales (Argentina, Austria, Colombia, Finland, Hungary, Mexico, Poland, Sweden, Switzerland) = 1.656M copies. So... How can it sold 1.144M copies outside of the biggest coutries? 1.95M is the right number.This... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiona Apple 13,006 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 those are just for the EP aloneThe Fame alone sold like 8 million copies but with TFM combined it is at 14.5 millionso TFM deluxe sold like 6.5 million and the E.P 1.9 million Nah. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Nah.what are your numbers then? a lot of people counted The Fame Monsters as the re-release of the fame and that's why the sales go to the fame My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rainbow Unicorn 82 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Media traffic is not more reliable then record labels and professional publications and organizations. These numbers aren't coming from a fan site, they are coming from industry insiders and professionals. This is not about being reliable or not. Because, sure, record labels are reliable, but they're reporting shipments. Don't you think it's too fishy that Universal reported TFM at 16M in 2010 while the album was released only for months ? Same for BTW and its 8M copies ? The truth is that Mediatraffic is adding up REAL sales for years now, that's why they're also reliable, but in term of estimated numbers. It's not an usual "fan site". They're doing their job perfectly and their chart page is based on real numbers and statistics from IFPI, and all other official compagnies as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HANZ 4,380 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Guys, please, see the difference between inflated shipment numbers and real sales. ARTPOP: 744k (USA) + 210k (UK) + 200k (Japan) + 35k (Italy) + 65k (France) + 12k (Spain) + 5k (South Korea) + 90k (Canada) + 65k (Brazil) + 30k (Australia) + 50k+ (Germany) + 150k other certified sales (Argentina, Austria, Colombia, Finland, Hungary, Mexico, Poland, Sweden, Switzerland) = 1.656M copies. So... How can it sold 1.144M copies outside of the biggest coutries? 1.95M is the right number. mte some people fail to see the reality almost 3 million sold? I mean PRISM barely sold more than that, let alone ARTPOP My Favs = Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson, Ricky Martin, AKB48 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 They're doing their job perfectly and their chart page is based on real numbers and statistics from IFPI, and all other official compagnies as well.ARTPOP sold 2.3 million according to IFPI: http://www.ifpi.org/downloads/Digital-Music-Report-2014.pdf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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