daviddarko 144 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 its not her "ARTPOP"  era.  it is much worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 âsomeone got charged with hacking and I can't believe people still think her fall was on purpose gtfo seriously âleaking 30+ demos and the full album two months before the release is the best way to boost sales I didn't say it would boost sales, I said it would excuse a lack of sales. They could've had the demos under very lax conditions making it easier for someone to steal the music, and the fall garnered a lot of attention which was mostly positive. I gave my own opinion no matter how pessimistic it may seem you should at least respect it. After all, I respect yours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iloveit123 130 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 This is exactly the sales situation I was expecting for her.... would be nice for her to get a #1 album... doesn't matter what she does or how much she sells, if she doesn't do Taylor or Adele numbers, it is called a flop (yet hardly anyone else is selling albums) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Where's all the music-not-the-bling stans now?  Feel free to change your mind once mommy monster tells you to again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Where's all the music-not-the-bling stans now?  Feel free to change your mind once mommy monster tells you to again.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 I didn't say it would boost sales, I said it would excuse a lack of sales. They could've had the demos under very lax conditions making it easier for someone to steal the music, and the fall garnered a lot of attention which was mostly positive. I gave my own opinion no matter how pessimistic it may seem you should at least respect it. After all, I respect yours. âBut there's a record label behind this record, they need money, and not excuses. She could've just given away the album for free instead (her manager is the same guy as U2's ), why all this mess? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Where's all the music-not-the-bling stans now?  Feel free to change your mind once mommy monster tells you to again. Where are all the flop statuses now? (from the resident Madonnastan trolls) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmm 979 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Where are all the flop statuses now? (from the resident Madonnastan trolls) How would I know, I don't make statuses (often) nor care for the opinions from "trolls" as you put them. Nice to see that you equate those so intermittently defendant of the "music-not-the-bling" policy as trolls though  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 âBut there's a record label behind this record, they need money, and not excuses. She could've just given away the album for free instead (her manager is the same guy as U2's ), why all this mess? âWell I'm pretty sure Madonna has made most of her money from touring and other things like that, which is all covered under her live nation 360 deal which was made before the Interscope deal. If we have seen Madge in the past releasing an album "just so she could tour again" then I wouldn't put it past her to do some of the things that I said. I mean after MDNA expectations were low anyway, right? I feel that Madonna and her team are very knowledgeable of how her albums are going to do much before they release them. They have research teams for that. So I think they found out it wasn't going to be a huge commercial success so they set up a series of missteps for Madge to go through so when the album didn't make a huge impact (or even surpass modern albums like ARTPOP or Bangerz) her "icon status" wouldn't be damaged. "Oh Rebel Heart didn't surpass Prism because of this" or "Madonna didn't sell as much as Miley because of that."I don't  hold these beliefs cus I have something against Madonna, I am always very pessimistic when it comes to the entertainment industry (Gaga included). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas 21,513 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 More than what I expected, still low because this is one of Madonna's best albums and all the promo she's giving really is a proof that she cares about this album...Deserve way more success Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoop 628 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Hope Empire snatches it. Great show! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkwolf 590 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 âWell I'm pretty sure Madonna has made most of her money from touring and other things like that, which is all covered under her live nation 360 deal which was made before the Interscope deal. If we have seen Madge in the past releasing an album "just so she could tour again" then I wouldn't put it past her to do some of the things that I said. I mean after MDNA expectations were low anyway, right? I feel that Madonna and her team are very knowledgeable of how her albums are going to do much before they release them. They have research teams for that. So I think they found out it wasn't going to be a huge commercial success so they set up a series of missteps for Madge to go through so when the album didn't make a huge impact (or even surpass modern albums like ARTPOP or Bangerz) her "icon status" wouldn't be damaged. "Oh Rebel Heart didn't surpass Prism because of this" or "Madonna didn't sell as much as Miley because of that."I don't  hold these beliefs cus I have something against Madonna, I am always very pessimistic when it comes to the entertainment industry (Gaga included). â But wouldn't it be better if she didn't waste her time promoting the album all over the world? It will give people more "excuses". Doesn't make sense imo. It's just a messy era, with all the leaks and the first single didn't perform any good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valextra 58 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jed 7,716 Posted March 11, 2015 Share Posted March 11, 2015 â But wouldn't it be better if she didn't waste her time promoting the album all over the world? It will give people more "excuses". Doesn't make sense imo. It's just a messy era, with all the leaks and the first single didn't perform any good. âWell by doing these promotions she isn't only promoting her album but she is promoting Madonna the brand. Like I said (or meant to say) I know it's a stretch and most likely not reality, it's just what I had thought in my head. (oh and thanks to you I now can listen to sirius for a month free, thanks ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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