djBuffoon 12,123 Posted February 8, 2015 Author Share Posted February 8, 2015 You don't respect Elvis Presley, Whitney Houston or Frank Sinatra? Great question. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainingOnMe 7,280 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 You don't respect Elvis Presley, Whitney Houston or Frank Sinatra? I'm talking about modern music. They actually had talent. Artists these days that don't write their music are talentless besides singing (if they even do sing live). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I'm talking about modern music. They actually had talent. Artists these days that don't write their music are talentless besides singing (if they even do sing live). Ah so we pick and choose who the 'songwriting rule' applies to, I see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainingOnMe 7,280 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Ah so we pick and choose who the 'songwriting rule' applies to, I see. Get off my back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Get off my back. It's a public forum don't post if you don't handle a conversation Funny you tell me to get off your back for two non-argumentative posts when you just spent like a day harassing a guy who ended up proving you wrong anyway lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainingOnMe 7,280 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 It's a public forum don't post if you don't handle a conversation Funny you tell me to get off your back for two non-argumentative posts when you just spent like a day harassing a guy who ended up proving you wrong anyway lol So you're one of those people. Listen to me, leave me alone. I noticed you have been viewing my profile for a while now. Wow, you're such a cool person for attempting to clock me because I stated that I was referring to modern music. You deserve a trophy. Got anything better to do? Didn't think so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 So you're one of those people. Listen to me, leave me alone. I noticed you have been viewing my profile for a while now. Wow, you're such a cool person for attempting to clock me because I stated that I was referring to modern music. You deserve a trophy. Got anything better to do? Didn't think so. Again, irony. You melodramatic stans are so annoying. I was literally just contributing to a discussion but I don't care so whatever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Ah so we pick and choose who the 'songwriting rule' applies to, I see. I do. The three artist you listed are expert vocalists. That's the difference for me, personally. If an artist's isnt going to write their own music, they need to be someone like Whitney or Celine, for me to fully respect them as an artist. But that's me. Other people just want songs that they enjoy listening to. I need more than that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainingOnMe 7,280 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Again, irony. You melodramatic stans are so annoying. I was literally just contributing to a discussion but whatever. Contributing to the discussion by instigating. I'm so melodramatic, because it was your choice to be a smart alec about something so simple. Not gonna reply to your nonsense anymore. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I do. The three artist you listed are expert vocalists. That's the difference for me, personally. If an artist's isnt going to write their own music, they need to be someone like Whitney or Celine, for me to fully respect them as an artist. But that's me. Other people just want songs that they enjoy listening to. I need more than that. I totally agree with you. Not to say I can't enjoy a song by someone like Rihanna if it sounds good, but as far as respect goes, I feel the same way. My question was in response to the very general statement that he has zero respect for artists that aren't songwriters, writing off some of the most iconic and talented musicians the world has ever seen. I just don't understand why people get attacked for not being songwriters when they don't advertise themselves as such... Criticise Rihanna or whoever for her vocal abilities if you want, sure, cos she's a singer. She doesn't claim to write all her material. We don't criticise actors if they don't direct the movies they star in. Contributing to the discussion by instigating. I'm so melodramatic, because it was your choice to be a smart alec about something so simple. Not gonna reply to your nonsense anymore. i.e. you're too vapid to come up with a decent response to a fair question so you come back with 'get off my back' and a Britney Spears gif, genius Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow 6,632 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Stay on topic, please. End of story... Do your own research. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I totally agree with you. Not to say I can't enjoy a song by someone like Rihanna if it sounds good, but as far as respect goes, I feel the same way. My question was in response to the very general statement that he has zero respect for artists that aren't songwriters, writing off some of the most iconic and talented musicians the world has ever seen. I just don't understand why people get attacked for not being songwriters when they don't advertise themselves as such... Criticise Rihanna or whoever for her vocal abilities if you want, sure, cos she's a singer. She doesn't claim to write all her material. We don't criticise actors if they don't direct the movies they star in. s Of course we don't, because it's highly unusual. The large majority of actors are there just to act. Music is different, in that artists generally bring something other than decent vocals to the table. If they don't, they are just people with passable voices, who happen to have a pretty face and get the backing from a label that gets them great songs. That's okay, and I can enjoy songs from those people, but I just don't put them in the category of some other talented artists...from the past and present. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry 26,836 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Of course we don't, because it's highly unusual. The large majority of actors are there just to act. Music is different, in that artists generally bring something other than decent vocals to the table. If they don't, they are just people with passable voices, who happen to have a pretty face and get the backing from a label that gets them great songs. That's okay, and I can enjoy songs from those people, but I just don't put them in the category of some other talented artists...from the past and present. I agree, like I said. But what I'm trying to say is - why can't a singer just be there to sing? Regardless of how well they do it, for now. Yeah it's sort of become standard now for artists to write, but I still don't think it's a valid way to put down an artist just because they don't. And why does it only seem to apply to lyric writing and not music writing? Some people just naturally don't have the skill, so why should they pretend? We should judge people on what they do, not what they don't do. Otherwise we may as well start bashing every artist that doesn't play instruments & produce their own music too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 I agree, like I said. But what I'm trying to say is - why can't a singer just be there to sing? Regardless of how well they do it, for now. Yeah it's sort of become standard now for artists to write, but I still don't think it's a valid way to put down an artist just because they don't. And why does it only seem to apply to lyric writing and not music writing? Some people just naturally don't have the skill, so why should they pretend? We should judge people on what they do, not what they don't do. Otherwise we may as well start bashing every artist that doesn't play instruments & produce their own music too. They can be just there to sing, and that is enough for some people. It's not enough for me, not as far as someone who I'm interested in past a couple of catchy songs. I don't care if Whitney ever wrote a single word, because she had one of the best voices of all time. I admired and respected her expert vocal ability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SISTERV 3,887 Posted February 8, 2015 Share Posted February 8, 2015 Quite a funny post! Gaga takes risk but the results are still pretty basic. Have a look at the video below, and tell me Katy's career won't last. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYY8UkDg5bs That video is so incredibly shallow. Omg. Looking at art with such a statistical measure and leaving out other sociological factors. That video is soooooo innacurate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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